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Hoags wrote:The Sens' first offer should be a low (non insulting) offer. Standard negotiation. I think his agent said talks are progressing well so its not like A-train where they were far apart and never came to any common ground.

Seeing what other D-men are going for and that Chris has kind of killed his value with his bad play season I think they will resign him rather than trade him for peanuts.

I can see that too. Perhaps it hits 3 million per year, but I think I speak for everyone when I say I hope it's less.

Because of the fact he wouldn't waive his no trade clause and we lost out on getting assests. It better not be for more than 2m per

DirtyDave wrote:Because of the fact he wouldn't waive his no trade clause and we lost out on getting assests. It better not be for more than 2m per

It doesn't sound like the Sens even approached with a trade and a request to waive his NTC.

Murray probably has/had some offers on the table and they can't be all that good otherwise he'd be gone by now.

Either the asking price is too high or (more likely) other teams do not value Chris Philips as we do and are trying to get him for a song.

I can see the new deal being between 2.5-3.0 cap hit.

strachattack wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

SensFan71 wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

SensFan71 wrote:am interested to see what the term/dollar amount will be, hopefully not too much over 3 if at all, need a hometown discount here

Murray can be a cheap Diddle sometimes - which I like. 2.75?

am okay with that, 3 or 4 years?

Sens will try for 3, Phillips' will demand 4. Do they settle on a 3 X 3? I'm intrigued to see the numbers if this happens.

Chirp in the comments section of his blog claims he's hearing rumours it will be a 2 year deal.

The shorter the better. Within 2 years we could have Rundblad, Karlsson, and Cowen really contributing by then.

I will guess it will be 3 mil x 2 or 3 years. Phillips value is a lot closer to Sopel then it would be Kaberle at this point and it's probably not worth trading him at this point.

If they can move one of Kuba or Gonchar, then Murray will have gotten himself out of a very tight spot.

DirtyDave wrote:Because of the fact he wouldn't waive his no trade clause and we lost out on getting assests. It better not be for more than 2m per

It's definitely going to be more than that. "A reduction, but not a significant reduction." You're expecting too much.

NEELY wrote:I will guess it will be 3 mil x 2 or 3 years. Phillips value is a lot closer to Sopel then it would be Kaberle at this point and it's probably not worth trading him at this point.

If they can move one of Kuba or Gonchar, then Murray will have gotten himself out of a very tight spot.

As always, saving me typing time.

DirtyDave wrote:Because of the fact he wouldn't waive his no trade clause and we lost out on getting assests. It better not be for more than 2m per

Not a chance. I'm pretty sure that "You wouldn't waive your contractual right to stay and honour your contract so we expect a discount" doesn't come up too often.

NEELY wrote:I will guess it will be 3 mil x 2 or 3 years. Phillips value is a lot closer to Sopel then it would be Kaberle at this point and it's probably not worth trading him at this point.

If they can move one of Kuba or Gonchar, then Murray will have gotten himself out of a very tight spot.

Agreed. Seems reasonable to me.

$3 million next year, $2 in 2012-2013, average of $2.5

Big Ev wrote:$3 million next year, $2 in 2012-2013, average of $2.5

and he can start leaving the NMC or NTC's out of the contracts

rooneypoo wrote:

NEELY wrote:I will guess it will be 3 mil x 2 or 3 years. Phillips value is a lot closer to Sopel then it would be Kaberle at this point and it's probably not worth trading him at this point.

If they can move one of Kuba or Gonchar, then Murray will have gotten himself out of a very tight spot.

As always, saving me typing time.

SensFan71 wrote:

Big Ev wrote:$3 million next year, $2 in 2012-2013, average of $2.5

and he can start leaving the NMC or NTC's out of the contracts

Prolly not gonna happen he wants to stay in Ottawa and Murray hands out NTCs like candy.

Hoags wrote:

SensFan71 wrote:

Big Ev wrote:$3 million next year, $2 in 2012-2013, average of $2.5

and he can start leaving the NMC or NTC's out of the contracts

Prolly not gonna happen he wants to stay in Ottawa and Murray hands out NTCs like candy.

It's a good way to entice people to sign with Ottawa (Kovalev, The Gonch), and it's a sign of respect for veterans. Pretty standard operating procedure across the NHL.

Big Ev wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:

NEELY wrote:I will guess it will be 3 mil x 2 or 3 years. Phillips value is a lot closer to Sopel then it would be Kaberle at this point and it's probably not worth trading him at this point.

If they can move one of Kuba or Gonchar, then Murray will have gotten himself out of a very tight spot.

As always, saving me typing time.

rooneypoo wrote:

NEELY wrote:I will guess it will be 3 mil x 2 or 3 years. Phillips value is a lot closer to Sopel then it would be Kaberle at this point and it's probably not worth trading him at this point.

If they can move one of Kuba or Gonchar, then Murray will have gotten himself out of a very tight spot.

As always, saving me typing time.

hmm I smell quite the bromance brewing

Bromance is one word for it I guess.

Any trades?

SpezDispenser wrote:Bromance is one word for it I guess.

Only people who didn't fall for the CR song and dance are eligible to comment on this.