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Official for Savard shutting it down.....

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=551872&navid=DL|NHL|home

shabbs wrote:Crosby out until March?

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=352823

Kovalev's price just went up...

That report says he sustained a concussion after being driven into the boards by Hedman? I thought it was the Winter Classic. Are they still trying to say he didn't get injured then? Are they trying to protect the refs and the league or something?

wprager wrote:

shabbs wrote:Crosby out until March?

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=352823

Kovalev's price just went up...

That report says he sustained a concussion after being driven into the boards by Hedman? I thought it was the Winter Classic. Are they still trying to say he didn't get injured then? Are they trying to protect the refs and the league or something?

A bit ambiguous there I guess... he certainly got one at the Winter Classic, but it went undetected, and then Hedman added to it, creating the situation they're in now. I suspect they're trying to avoid saying they Cussed up and he should not have played after the Winter Classic.

Hobiesens wrote:Official for Savard shutting it down.....

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=551872&navid=DL|NHL|home

A shame... the next question will be, is this the end of his NHL career?

Cap'n Clutch wrote:

shabbs wrote:Crosby out until March?

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=352823

Kovalev's price just went up...

Kovalev was supposed to be Crosby's winger so doesn't that pretty much kill that "deal"?

Not really, Pitt will be looking for any top 6 player who'll be a UFA after this season methinks (due to their injury situation). Kovalev fits the bill and there is history there. Will it happen? Dare to dream...

shabbs wrote:

Hobiesens wrote:Official for Savard shutting it down.....

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=551872&navid=DL|NHL|home

A shame... the next question will be, is this the end of his NHL career?

For his own good, it really should be. Besides, he's not really a spring chicken either. I guess the only issue is leaving all that beautiful money on the table.

Savard's contract has 6 more years and $21M coming... that's a lot of cheddar.

If he's forced to retire, though, he still gets the money, doesn't he? If a guy loses an eye and can no-longer play he still gets the rest of the contract he's on -- I think insurance will pay his salary and I'm guessing his cap hit is off the books.

wprager wrote:If he's forced to retire, though, he still gets the money, doesn't he? If a guy loses an eye and can no-longer play he still gets the rest of the contract he's on -- I think insurance will pay his salary and I'm guessing his cap hit is off the books.

Yeah, I think that makes sense... insurance would cover it, cap would come off the books as it's not a 35+ contract.

shabbs wrote:

wprager wrote:If he's forced to retire, though, he still gets the money, doesn't he? If a guy loses an eye and can no-longer play he still gets the rest of the contract he's on -- I think insurance will pay his salary and I'm guessing his cap hit is off the books.

Yeah, I think that makes sense... insurance would cover it, cap would come off the books as it's not a 35+ contract.

I can't see how the 35 year rule would come into play if the guy lost an eye. There's got to be some medical exemptions.

Bryzgalov with back to back shutouts...

wprager wrote:

shabbs wrote:

wprager wrote:If he's forced to retire, though, he still gets the money, doesn't he? If a guy loses an eye and can no-longer play he still gets the rest of the contract he's on -- I think insurance will pay his salary and I'm guessing his cap hit is off the books.

Yeah, I think that makes sense... insurance would cover it, cap would come off the books as it's not a 35+ contract.

I can't see how the 35 year rule would come into play if the guy lost an eye. There's got to be some medical exemptions.

Yeah, not sure of the details around a career-ending injury... care to wade through the CBA? I'm sure Roche can provide some insight.

shabbs wrote:

wprager wrote:

shabbs wrote:

wprager wrote:If he's forced to retire, though, he still gets the money, doesn't he? If a guy loses an eye and can no-longer play he still gets the rest of the contract he's on -- I think insurance will pay his salary and I'm guessing his cap hit is off the books.

Yeah, I think that makes sense... insurance would cover it, cap would come off the books as it's not a 35+ contract.

I can't see how the 35 year rule would come into play if the guy lost an eye. There's got to be some medical exemptions.

Yeah, not sure of the details around a career-ending injury... care to wade through the CBA? I'm sure Roche can provide some insight.

Doesn't the 35 year old rule deal with retirement? I realize a career ending injury effectively means they're retired but if they never file the papers couldn't that be the loop hole so to speak?

shabbs wrote:Bryzgalov with back to back shutouts...

Bryzgalov on the move?

I'm pretty sure that if you are forced to retire due to injuries sustained as part of your career, you are entitled to your contractually owed money. I think I remember this because when DiPietro signed his contract, I recall something about that coming up.

EDIT: I wrote "Return" when I meant "retire" so I corrected it.

Dash wrote:I'm pretty sure that if you are forced to return due to injuries sustained as part of your career, you are entitled to your contractually owed money. I think I remember this because when DiPietro signed his contract, I recall something about that coming up.

Me too. I think the big issue was finding someone who would insure a deal of that magnitude.

Ok, why are there rumours surfacing now that the Atlanta Thrashers are considered to be moved to Winnipeg, when year after year, the NHL refuses to do the same with the failed experiment that is Phoenix?

I know that this is still just a rumour at this stage and likely will be quashed, but it is very confusing.

Obviously, I am all for Winnipeg and Quebec City to get their teams back. But Atlanta is also in the Eastern Conference.... would it not make sense to move Phoenix to Winnipeg, and Atlanta to an Eastern city?

Dash wrote:Ok, why are there rumours surfacing now that the Atlanta Thrashers are considered to be moved to Winnipeg, when year after year, the NHL refuses to do the same with the failed experiment that is Phoenix?

I know that this is still just a rumour at this stage and likely will be quashed, but it is very confusing.

Obviously, I am all for Winnipeg and Quebec City to get their teams back. But Atlanta is also in the Eastern Conference.... would it not make sense to move Phoenix to Winnipeg, and Atlanta to an Eastern city?

Maybe Detroit will finally be successful in moving back to the East.