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rooneypoo wrote:22_4_ever wrote:rooneypoo wrote:22_4_ever wrote:rooneypoo wrote:
Unless someone blows BM out of the water with an offer for him, I expect Phillips to stay. Most people here underestimate his value to the club, and they certainly overestimate the kind of return he would get (Krejci + ??) and/or the ease with which a team can re-sign a player during the FA period after it has traded him away.
But we shall see.
I expect it's me that you are referring to that overestimates his value.
If you're going to quote me then kindly read the entire thread and post something accurate and not out of context. If you're referring to someone else then fine. My comment about Krejci + stemmed from what I would start with, and I believe my followup to that was when they stopped laughing I'd then counter with ok..a 1st plus... and then we get down to haggling.
It's only natural that they come in low..ie Wheeler (which is stupid low) and we start high and then start to work to a common ground. How stupid would Murray look if he start with a 2nd rounder and the answer was a quick , DONE!
I totally admit, I skipped over the trade proposals in some of those threads. I didn't mean to single any 1 proposal out as ridiculous, just that some of the suggestions were, um, a little outlandish.
Fair enough...and I apologize if I was a little over sensitive this morning.
I've been taken to task a couple of times about my thoughts on Phillips. I really don't expect more than a 2nd, and in truth a 2nd would likely be a top bounty, but I see no reason why starting at Krejci ++ isn't a starting point for us just as something like Wheeler or rumored conditional 3rd (from another site) is the other teams starting point.
I still feel Phillips here at 2 million for 2 years is worth more than a 2nd round pick especially with the young Dmen coming in, but I'm also the guy who wants to put a players lounge in at SBP to make it more appealing to FA's.
Hey, I hear you on the oversensitive thing right now. I've had two mods with bees in their bonnets on me for years.
Unless we get blown away, which would be a 1st pick or a player like Wheeler (who is better than people are giving him credit for, IMO, btw) plus, I don't want to trade Phillips. A 2nd just isn't worth it to me.
Although, in BM's hands, our most recent 2nds are Weircioch, Lehner, & Silfverberg. So maybe I have to re-think that, actually.
I'd much prefer Krejci than Wheeler myself. Krejci has better numbers, more skill, and is a true number 2 centre. For a guy who's capable of 75+ points, I'd love to have him for less than $4 million for another year, and then still have him be in RFA status.
I'm not trying to discredit Wheeler, as I see him as a good young player, but he's reportedly having attitude issues in Boston, and already couldn't come to terms with Phoenix. That's a real red flag for me. Krejci is already signed beyond this year.
EDIT: This isn't to say that I think Krejci is possible as a return for Phillips. Far from it. I agree that he'd be a massive overpayment.
