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9462011 NHL Entry Draft Watch - Page 64 Empty Re: 2011 NHL Entry Draft Watch Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:15 am

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I'm gonna say Strome because he is the only guy I have actually seen play. Zibenajed seems to be a guy everyone is talking about right now but I have never seen him play. I am just as ignorant as everyone else when it comes to that guy. If I had to guess the top 10 will go like this

NRH
Larsson
Huberdeau
Landeskog
Couturier
Zibenejed
Strome
Hamilton
McNeil (love him like Landeskog)
Murphy

9472011 NHL Entry Draft Watch - Page 64 Empty Re: 2011 NHL Entry Draft Watch Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:16 am

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Flo The Action wrote:
NEELY wrote:
Big Ev wrote:
Flo The Action wrote:
spader wrote:
Flo The Action wrote:to further prove that the NYI aren't taking a D-man here's a lift from THN who are quoting another article
New York Islanders GM Garth Snow has let it be known he's open to entertaining offers for his first-rounder (fifth overall).

Snow is willing to consider moving up or down in the draft order, but it's also believed he's interested in adding what Chris Botta of Islanders Point Blank called “at least one productive and experienced forward” who would help speed up the club's rebuilding program.
that 5th is available but what's the difference? they are more likely to want a Lando type of guy to round out their young forward prospects.
I tell you Strome it is.

It would be cool to pick 5th and 6th.

Who would we have to trade? Shrug Let's see. If they want a productive AND experienced forward, we have Aflie, Spezza, Michalek, and . . . that's about it. Foligno is fairly experienced, but not overly productive. Alfie and Spezz are obviously non-starters. I don't think they'd take Michalek for the fifth unless we add quite a bit.

Guess not. Facepalm
No i think they'd want to trade down. but not that far down as our 21st. and i don't think it's a good idea to over pay to move up one spot.

the first 3 picks is where it's at. 4rth for couturier also. NJ could be interested. but i have a bad feeling Ottawa would pick Lando ahead of couturier.

don't get me wrong, if they pick lando i'll be very happy but there's others i'd place ahead of him.


NJ needs some picks and if they can get a 2nd rounder by moving down 2 spots, I think they might. Remember, they are missing a 1st round draft pick in an upcoming draft, so they do need those picks. The player from 4-6 won't be much different in terms of what scouts think.



There's little chance they trade down. They want the BPA.

and yeah they would pick Landeskog over Couturier, that's been made pretty clear

I still think they will trade down if Landeskog is available at 4 which I think will be the case.
you think NJD trade down if lando is available with the 4rth? I don't know man... Am i the only one that sees NJ drafting a forward?

9482011 NHL Entry Draft Watch - Page 64 Empty Re: 2011 NHL Entry Draft Watch Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:28 am

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NEELY wrote:
Flo The Action wrote:
NEELY wrote:
Big Ev wrote:
Flo The Action wrote:
spader wrote:
Flo The Action wrote:to further prove that the NYI aren't taking a D-man here's a lift from THN who are quoting another article
New York Islanders GM Garth Snow has let it be known he's open to entertaining offers for his first-rounder (fifth overall).

Snow is willing to consider moving up or down in the draft order, but it's also believed he's interested in adding what Chris Botta of Islanders Point Blank called “at least one productive and experienced forward” who would help speed up the club's rebuilding program.
that 5th is available but what's the difference? they are more likely to want a Lando type of guy to round out their young forward prospects.
I tell you Strome it is.

It would be cool to pick 5th and 6th.

Who would we have to trade? Shrug Let's see. If they want a productive AND experienced forward, we have Aflie, Spezza, Michalek, and . . . that's about it. Foligno is fairly experienced, but not overly productive. Alfie and Spezz are obviously non-starters. I don't think they'd take Michalek for the fifth unless we add quite a bit.

Guess not. Facepalm
No i think they'd want to trade down. but not that far down as our 21st. and i don't think it's a good idea to over pay to move up one spot.

the first 3 picks is where it's at. 4rth for couturier also. NJ could be interested. but i have a bad feeling Ottawa would pick Lando ahead of couturier.

don't get me wrong, if they pick lando i'll be very happy but there's others i'd place ahead of him.






There's little chance they trade down. They want the BPA.

and yeah they would pick Landeskog over Couturier, that's been made pretty clear

I still think they will trade down if Landeskog is available at 4 which I think will be the case.
you think NJD trade down if lando is available with the 4rth? I don't know man... Am i the only one that sees NJ drafting a forward?
NJ needs some picks and if they can get a 2nd rounder by moving down 2 spots, I think they might. Remember, they are missing a 1st round draft pick in an upcoming draft, so they do need those picks. The player from 4-6 won't be much different in terms of what scouts think.
still if per sy NJ is like me and do not want Lando they're better off grabbing either larsson or couturier (yeah i think Hubie might go second) with the 4rth rather then dipping down.
so also i your mock draft you see the sens grabing the swede over strome eh? i hope that's not the case.

i hate to come off as the guy that will be disappointed on draft day but i have my preferences obviously and i'm open to being dead wrong about what happens if they pick such X players and i hope for Y player.
to be honest i'm more interested what happens with the 21st and if they manage to move up. and yeah Mcneil sound like a good pick to me too

9492011 NHL Entry Draft Watch - Page 64 Empty Re: 2011 NHL Entry Draft Watch Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:31 am

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Either way, if they move up to get the number 1 prospect it will take the 6th overall, probably Chicago's 2nd, and Nashville's 3rd next year.

If Landeskog is 1st or 2nd on their list (which I think he is but no real proof) then the quality of the prospect is better than than the quantity of 2nd round picks. Pretty sure they can find a way to get the guys they really like in the 2nd round anyways. This draft is a fantastic year to build depth with sure shot NHLers, the depth is fantastic IMO.

9502011 NHL Entry Draft Watch - Page 64 Empty Re: 2011 NHL Entry Draft Watch Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:40 am

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NEELY wrote:Either way, if they move up to get the number 1 prospect it will take the 6th overall, probably Chicago's 2nd, and Nashville's 3rd next year.

If Landeskog is 1st or 2nd on their list (which I think he is but no real proof) then the quality of the prospect is better than than the quantity of 2nd round picks. Pretty sure they can find a way to get the guys they really like in the 2nd round anyways. This draft is a fantastic year to build depth with sure shot NHLers, the depth is fantastic IMO.

Oh yeah, the 6 picks in the 2 rounds plus our high 3rd will be very valuable to this organization to say the least.

9512011 NHL Entry Draft Watch - Page 64 Empty Re: 2011 NHL Entry Draft Watch Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:42 am

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NEELY wrote:
Big Ev wrote:
Flo The Action wrote:
spader wrote:
Flo The Action wrote:to further prove that the NYI aren't taking a D-man here's a lift from THN who are quoting another article
New York Islanders GM Garth Snow has let it be known he's open to entertaining offers for his first-rounder (fifth overall).

Snow is willing to consider moving up or down in the draft order, but it's also believed he's interested in adding what Chris Botta of Islanders Point Blank called “at least one productive and experienced forward” who would help speed up the club's rebuilding program.
that 5th is available but what's the difference? they are more likely to want a Lando type of guy to round out their young forward prospects.
I tell you Strome it is.

It would be cool to pick 5th and 6th.

Who would we have to trade? Shrug Let's see. If they want a productive AND experienced forward, we have Aflie, Spezza, Michalek, and . . . that's about it. Foligno is fairly experienced, but not overly productive. Alfie and Spezz are obviously non-starters. I don't think they'd take Michalek for the fifth unless we add quite a bit.

Guess not. Facepalm
No i think they'd want to trade down. but not that far down as our 21st. and i don't think it's a good idea to over pay to move up one spot.

the first 3 picks is where it's at. 4rth for couturier also. NJ could be interested. but i have a bad feeling Ottawa would pick Lando ahead of couturier.

don't get me wrong, if they pick lando i'll be very happy but there's others i'd place ahead of him.


There's little chance they trade down. They want the BPA.

and yeah they would pick Landeskog over Couturier, that's been made pretty clear

I still think they will trade down if Landeskog is available at 4 which I think will be the case.

I thought we were talking about Ottawa trading down, sorry. I also think NJ would trade down.

9522011 NHL Entry Draft Watch - Page 64 Empty Re: 2011 NHL Entry Draft Watch Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:42 am

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NEELY wrote:Either way, if they move up to get the number 1 prospect it will take the 6th overall, probably Chicago's 2nd, and Nashville's 3rd next year.

If Landeskog is 1st or 2nd on their list (which I think he is but no real proof) then the quality of the prospect is better than than the quantity of 2nd round picks. Pretty sure they can find a way to get the guys they really like in the 2nd round anyways. This draft is a fantastic year to build depth with sure shot NHLers, the depth is fantastic IMO.
oh I agree. we couldn't pick a better year to suck and rebuild. with me beeing out of the country unable to watch the team lose Sarcasm and the amount of good available players. I'm just trying to figure out how else we can get more picks.

9532011 NHL Entry Draft Watch - Page 64 Empty Re: 2011 NHL Entry Draft Watch Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:43 am

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NEELY wrote:I'm gonna say Strome because he is the only guy I have actually seen play. Zibenajed seems to be a guy everyone is talking about right now but I have never seen him play. I am just as ignorant as everyone else when it comes to that guy. If I had to guess the top 10 will go like this

NRH
Larsson
Huberdeau
Landeskog
Couturier
Zibenejed
Strome
Hamilton
McNeil (love him like Landeskog)
Murphy

McNeill will probably drop a bit, he did not interview well.

9542011 NHL Entry Draft Watch - Page 64 Empty Re: 2011 NHL Entry Draft Watch Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:43 am

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Flo The Action wrote:
NEELY wrote:Either way, if they move up to get the number 1 prospect it will take the 6th overall, probably Chicago's 2nd, and Nashville's 3rd next year.

If Landeskog is 1st or 2nd on their list (which I think he is but no real proof) then the quality of the prospect is better than than the quantity of 2nd round picks. Pretty sure they can find a way to get the guys they really like in the 2nd round anyways. This draft is a fantastic year to build depth with sure shot NHLers, the depth is fantastic IMO.
oh I agree. we couldn't pick a better year to suck and rebuild. with me beeing out of the country unable to watch the team lose Sarcasm and the amount of good available players. I'm just trying to figure out how else we can get more picks.

I'd say next year is definitely a better year to suck and rebuild, but this year is fine as well.

9552011 NHL Entry Draft Watch - Page 64 Empty Re: 2011 NHL Entry Draft Watch Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:44 am

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NEELY wrote:
Big Ev wrote:
Flo The Action wrote:of strome:
He skates very well and has very good speed," NHL Central Scouting's Chris Edwards said of Strome, who's been compared favourably with rising Colorado Avalanche star Matt Duchene. "He's a creative playmaker who sees the ice very well. He goes to the net and battles in front. He is able to get to rebounds and loose pucks in front. He has good hands and has scored some goals off tip-ins in front (of the net)."
6'1 183 pounds. not bad size either. my money is on this kid if we draft 6th. If we don't pick him i'll be disappointed

Why? Fans shouldn't wish for any guy as they a) don't know how to actually scout players and b) they will most likely be disappointed. Most fans just go by stats and rankings, and then the actual team has their own completely different list. You always see fans wishing for a guy, Dung on the pick they actually get, and then cheer for that pick when they are doing well in the future.

Be happy with anyone they get.

Not ture as I am an exception to that. I wnet out with an NHL/OHL scouts daughter as well as him being my hockey coach. Def know what Scouts look for both the postitive and negative aspects.

I stand by my comment.

9562011 NHL Entry Draft Watch - Page 64 Empty Re: 2011 NHL Entry Draft Watch Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:45 am

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Big Ev wrote:
Flo The Action wrote:
NEELY wrote:Either way, if they move up to get the number 1 prospect it will take the 6th overall, probably Chicago's 2nd, and Nashville's 3rd next year.

If Landeskog is 1st or 2nd on their list (which I think he is but no real proof) then the quality of the prospect is better than than the quantity of 2nd round picks. Pretty sure they can find a way to get the guys they really like in the 2nd round anyways. This draft is a fantastic year to build depth with sure shot NHLers, the depth is fantastic IMO.
oh I agree. we couldn't pick a better year to suck and rebuild. with me beeing out of the country unable to watch the team lose Sarcasm and the amount of good available players. I'm just trying to figure out how else we can get more picks.

I'd say next year is definitely a better year to suck and rebuild, but this year is fine as well.

Next year might be a better year to have a high end pick but in terms of NHLers coming from each draft, I think this year will be better.

9572011 NHL Entry Draft Watch - Page 64 Empty Re: 2011 NHL Entry Draft Watch Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:46 am

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Big Ev wrote:
NEELY wrote:
Big Ev wrote:
Flo The Action wrote:of strome:
He skates very well and has very good speed," NHL Central Scouting's Chris Edwards said of Strome, who's been compared favourably with rising Colorado Avalanche star Matt Duchene. "He's a creative playmaker who sees the ice very well. He goes to the net and battles in front. He is able to get to rebounds and loose pucks in front. He has good hands and has scored some goals off tip-ins in front (of the net)."
6'1 183 pounds. not bad size either. my money is on this kid if we draft 6th. If we don't pick him i'll be disappointed

Why? Fans shouldn't wish for any guy as they a) don't know how to actually scout players and b) they will most likely be disappointed. Most fans just go by stats and rankings, and then the actual team has their own completely different list. You always see fans wishing for a guy, Dung on the pick they actually get, and then cheer for that pick when they are doing well in the future.

Be happy with anyone they get.

Not ture as I am an exception to that. I wnet out with an NHL/OHL scouts daughter as well as him being my hockey coach. Def know what Scouts look for both the postitive and negative aspects.

I stand by my comment.

I would too on an internet forum, I could 100% be talking out of my Donkey.

9582011 NHL Entry Draft Watch - Page 64 Empty Re: 2011 NHL Entry Draft Watch Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:47 am

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Big Ev wrote:
NEELY wrote:I'm gonna say Strome because he is the only guy I have actually seen play. Zibenajed seems to be a guy everyone is talking about right now but I have never seen him play. I am just as ignorant as everyone else when it comes to that guy. If I had to guess the top 10 will go like this

NRH
Larsson
Huberdeau
Landeskog
Couturier
Zibenejed
Strome
Hamilton
McNeil (love him like Landeskog)
Murphy

McNeill will probably drop a bit, he did not interview well.

McNeill has a chance to be the best player out of this draft.

9592011 NHL Entry Draft Watch - Page 64 Empty Re: 2011 NHL Entry Draft Watch Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:50 am

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Here's a wacky scenario:

Trade up to get Landeskog (6th overall, 2nd round (CHI), 3rd round).
Mark McNeill at 21.
Trade up to get Rocco Grimaldi (35th + BOS 2nd).

Boom, rebuild complete Sarcasm

9602011 NHL Entry Draft Watch - Page 64 Empty Re: 2011 NHL Entry Draft Watch Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:50 am

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I have a good feeling about young Nick Jensen.

9612011 NHL Entry Draft Watch - Page 64 Empty Re: 2011 NHL Entry Draft Watch Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:53 am

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Big Ev wrote:
Flo The Action wrote:
NEELY wrote:Either way, if they move up to get the number 1 prospect it will take the 6th overall, probably Chicago's 2nd, and Nashville's 3rd next year.

If Landeskog is 1st or 2nd on their list (which I think he is but no real proof) then the quality of the prospect is better than than the quantity of 2nd round picks. Pretty sure they can find a way to get the guys they really like in the 2nd round anyways. This draft is a fantastic year to build depth with sure shot NHLers, the depth is fantastic IMO.
oh I agree. we couldn't pick a better year to suck and rebuild. with me beeing out of the country unable to watch the team lose Sarcasm and the amount of good available players. I'm just trying to figure out how else we can get more picks.

I'd say next year is definitely a better year to suck and rebuild, but this year is fine as well.
we might get the chance to do just that also...

9622011 NHL Entry Draft Watch - Page 64 Empty Re: 2011 NHL Entry Draft Watch Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:54 am

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Big Ev wrote:Here's a wacky scenario:

Trade up to get Landeskog (6th overall, 2nd round (CHI), 3rd round).
Mark McNeill at 21.
Trade up to get Rocco Grimaldi (35th + BOS 2nd).

Boom, rebuild complete Sarcasm

That's a dream scenario, but not so far out of the relm of possibility it couldn't happen. McNeill with Ottawa's 21st would basically be a complete rebuild. In 5 years Ottawa could potentially have the nastiest 1st line in The NHL.

9632011 NHL Entry Draft Watch - Page 64 Empty Re: 2011 NHL Entry Draft Watch Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:54 am

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Flo The Action wrote:
Big Ev wrote:I'd say next year is definitely a better year to suck and rebuild, but this year is fine as well.
we might get the chance to do just that also...

It's never a good year to suck.

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