POLL: Best on the planet

Hoags wrote:I think maybe Ovechkin is more talented, some of the goals he has scored over the years, I'm not sure anyone else could have pulled that off.

Crosby is a better player though, I've read that if Ovechkin worked as hard as Crosby he'd be just as good, he'll never hit his full potential the way he is now.

I'm not even sure if Ovechkin is more talented anymore, I know I used to think he was. Ovechkin can score prettier goals, that is about it.

Sid's scored some pretty nifty ones too.

Dash wrote:Sid's scored some pretty nifty ones too.

I agree. Maybe more "dynamic" is the word I am looking for in describing Ovechkin over Crosby.

I don't know. All I know is Crosby is better, much better.

I voted yes - he is the best. I may not like him all the time, especially against Ottawa, and I think the point streak is a piss off considering I don't think he deserved it vs. Ottawa.

I do acknowledge his skill and ability.

Dash wrote:I voted yes - he is the best. I may not like him all the time, especially against Ottawa, and I think the point streak is a piss off considering I don't think he deserved it vs. Ottawa.
I do acknowledge his skill and ability.

I think the one good thing about that is - and I'm not sure if there is any way of finding this out - but I believe it could be safe to say that Crosby struggles against Ottawa more than any other team in the league.

CockRoche wrote:

Dash wrote:I voted yes - he is the best. I may not like him all the time, especially against Ottawa, and I think the point streak is a piss off considering I don't think he deserved it vs. Ottawa.
I do acknowledge his skill and ability.

I think the one good thing about that is - and I'm not sure if there is any way of finding this out - but I believe it could be safe to say that Crosby struggles against Ottawa more than any other team in the league.

That's what Dean Brown usually says before Crosby scores vs. Ottawa.

He has 4 goals and 13 assists in 20 games against Ottawa.

2 goals and -5 in 5 games against Vancouver.

19 points in 20 games against Tampa Bay.

5 points in 6 games against Detroit.

5 points in 5 games against Anaheim.

Only 1 assist in 4 games against San Jose.

4 assists in 5 games against St. Louis.

Cool stats Big Ev.

San Jose, Vancouver and then Ottawa I would say.

Thanks for the stats, where do you find something like that?

http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/nhl/players/3737/splits;_ylt=AorI6sqjH0QatRedYMtVlyLCfgM6?year=career

These are all his split stats since 1989 (obviously he was not in the game then, but you can use this for any player on Yahoo! and I assume other sites as well).

By the way, him and Ovie are both at 571 points in their career (Crosby has less games played).

Big Ev wrote:http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/nhl/players/3737/splits;_ylt=AorI6sqjH0QatRedYMtVlyLCfgM6?year=career

These are all his split stats since 1989 (obviously he was not in the game then, but you can use this for any player on Yahoo! and I assume other sites as well).

By the way, him and Ovie are both at 571 points in their career (Crosby has less games played).

Thank you, that is an informative website.

Crosby and Ovechkin are tied, who knew? Other than you of course.

I voted No. I think Lidstrom is better, and my argument is that I prefer defensemen

Seriously though, Defensemen's production don't always show on the statssheets and it makes them overlooked.

SeawaySensFan wrote:

CockRoche wrote:

Dash wrote:I voted yes - he is the best. I may not like him all the time, especially against Ottawa, and I think the point streak is a piss off considering I don't think he deserved it vs. Ottawa.
I do acknowledge his skill and ability.

I think the one good thing about that is - and I'm not sure if there is any way of finding this out - but I believe it could be safe to say that Crosby struggles against Ottawa more than any other team in the league.

That's what Dean Brown usually says before Crosby scores vs. Ottawa.

He sure says it a lot then doesn't he - A WHOLE 4 times now.

Can I add an option to the poll that reads: "I abstain because I still can't stand the little fat-lipped momma's boy"?

No question. if someone asks me who is the best player in the world, I tell them Sid the Kid.

marakh wrote:I voted No. I think Lidstrom is better, and my argument is that I prefer defensemen

Seriously though, Defensemen's production don't always show on the statssheets and it makes them overlooked.

Haha. Swimming against the current, nice.

Nothing I can say, I can't argue with that. Who is the second best hockey player on the planet?

CockRoche wrote:

marakh wrote:I voted No. I think Lidstrom is better, and my argument is that I prefer defensemen

Seriously though, Defensemen's production don't always show on the statssheets and it makes them overlooked.

Haha. Swimming against the current, nice.

Nothing I can say, I can't argue with that. Who is the second best hockey player on the planet?

I say best Forward is Sid, best D is Lidstrom, and I'll stop there

marakh wrote:

CockRoche wrote:

marakh wrote:I voted No. I think Lidstrom is better, and my argument is that I prefer defensemen

Seriously though, Defensemen's production don't always show on the statssheets and it makes them overlooked.

Haha. Swimming against the current, nice.

Nothing I can say, I can't argue with that. Who is the second best hockey player on the planet?

I say best Forward is Sid, best D is Lidstrom, and I'll stop there

Haha. I feel better.

I hate to say it, but hats off to Crosby. Can't even deny it anymore.