Sens on July 1st, Free Agents, Trades - Interesting storylines to watch.

hemlock wrote:

N4L wrote:

hemlock wrote:

marakh wrote:The way some people talk it sounds like we just signed MA Bergeron

Wow. You're really reaching here.

People aren't allowed to dislike this signing? I've been the most vocal today about this, and I've freely acknowledged his offensive abilities. It's everyone else who needs to take the rose coloured glasses off and realize that Gonchar isn't the be all end all. In fact, I see plenty of downside to this deal, which I've stated more than once. Very few people here want to even acknowledge that.

The downside is Gonchar getting injured, that's about all I can see. If
he's healthy he gets 60-70 points, he is jsut as good defensivly, maybe
better then A Train, and he is a guy a lot of the kids like KArlsson
can learn from.

There isnt a whole mess of downside here.

Gonchar is good defensivly, I dont think I have ever watched a game in the past 5 years and said to myself. "Wow, Gonchar really screwed up there". There was obviously that goal vs MTL in the playoffs but he was obviously thinking he had no angle to shoot or get to the net with the back checker. If Flurry doesnt crap the bed there it's not even a topic.

Anyways, Gonchar is a good D man in all aspect and the only thing he cant do that A Train does is block shots. Also, if Kuba is in the lineup during the playoffs, I dont even think Sutton dresses as much as I like the guy.

People are not giving Kuba enough credit here as well. He's now playing the number 3, 4 D man role and wont be relied on to do it all.

We must be watching a different player. He's nothing special defensively from what I've seen and have tendencies to be lazy. We are not anywhere close to being as good defensively with him as opposed to when we had Sutton and Volchenkov.

N4L wrote:

hemlock wrote:

N4L wrote:

hemlock wrote:

marakh wrote:The way some people talk it sounds like we just signed MA Bergeron

Wow. You're really reaching here.

People aren't allowed to dislike this signing? I've been the most vocal today about this, and I've freely acknowledged his offensive abilities. It's everyone else who needs to take the rose coloured glasses off and realize that Gonchar isn't the be all end all. In fact, I see plenty of downside to this deal, which I've stated more than once. Very few people here want to even acknowledge that.

The downside is Gonchar getting injured, that's about all I can see. If
he's healthy he gets 60-70 points, he is jsut as good defensivly, maybe
better then A Train, and he is a guy a lot of the kids like KArlsson
can learn from.

There isnt a whole mess of downside here.

Gonchar is good defensivly, I dont think I have ever watched a game in the past 5 years and said to myself. "Wow, Gonchar really screwed up there". There was obviously that goal vs MTL in the playoffs but he was obviously thinking he had no angle to shoot or get to the net with the back checker. If Flurry doesnt crap the bed there it's not even a topic.

Anyways, Gonchar is a good D man in all aspect and the only thing he cant do that A Train does is block shots. Also, if Kuba is in the lineup during the playoffs, I dont even think Sutton dresses as much as I like the guy.

People are not giving Kuba enough credit here as well. He's now playing the number 3, 4 D man role and wont be relied on to do it all.

We must be watching a different player. He's nothing special defensively from what I've seen and have tendencies to be lazy. We are not anywhere close to being as good defensively with him as opposed to when we had Sutton and Volchenkov.

DirtyDave wrote:50 points in 62 games.. .I'm looking forward to this coming season. we paid 1.5M for a much better defencemen.. it's an easy decision. Why pay 4+ for A Train when a player like him is a dime a dozen.

Big Ev wrote:I think Volchenkov will take a pay cut and re-sign. He'll want to play with a fellow Russian d-man

Big Ev wrote:I think Volchenkov will take a pay cut and re-sign. He'll want to play with a fellow Russian d-man

hemlock wrote:
A dime a dozen now? Classic. Oh how the memory shortens once a player leaves town.

I can't even begin to understand this logic. We are paying 1.5 more for Gonchar because of what Volchie MIGHT have gotten?

shabbs wrote:

Big Ev wrote:I think Volchenkov will take a pay cut and re-sign. He'll want to play with a fellow Russian d-man

HA! We have no money left. It would be a very big pay cut.

Big Ev wrote:

shabbs wrote:

Big Ev wrote:I think Volchenkov will take a pay cut and re-sign. He'll want to play with a fellow Russian d-man

HA! We have no money left. It would be a very big pay cut.

Sign Regin for $1 mill cap hit, sign Volch for $2. There we go!

Sens4thecup wrote:What is our current cap hit? (with today's signing)

hemlock wrote:

marakh wrote:The way some people talk it sounds like we just signed MA Bergeron

Wow. You're really reaching here.

People aren't allowed to dislike this signing? I've been the most vocal today about this, and I've freely acknowledged his offensive abilities. It's everyone else who needs to take the rose coloured glasses off and realize that Gonchar isn't the be all end all. In fact, I see plenty of downside to this deal, which I've stated more than once. Very few people here want to even acknowledge that.

hemlock wrote:

Big Ev wrote:

hemlock wrote:

marakh wrote:The way some people talk it sounds like we just signed MA Bergeron

Wow. You're really reaching here.

People aren't allowed to dislike this signing? I've been the most vocal today about this, and I've freely acknowledged his offensive abilities. It's everyone else who needs to take the rose coloured glasses off and realize that Gonchar isn't the be all end all. In fact, I see plenty of downside to this deal, which I've stated more than once. Very few people here want to even acknowledge that.

Bang on. I love Gonchar's offense, but I don't think he puts us over the top. I'd put the East right now at 1) Pittsburgh 2) Washington 3) Philadelphia 4) Ottawa.

Let's not forget about Boston, who could be better as well with a full year out of Lucic and Savard (if he's still there).

I think we are still a middle of the (playoff) pack team and should finish around 5th in the conference.

The thing that's being overlooked about Gonchar he too, is the fact that he's missed 77 games in the past two seasons. That's damn near half the games. He won't be so much of a bargain if we average 40 games out of him at $5.5 million will he?

hemlock wrote:

N4L wrote:

hemlock wrote:

marakh wrote:The way some people talk it sounds like we just signed MA Bergeron

Wow. You're really reaching here.

People aren't allowed to dislike this signing? I've been the most vocal today about this, and I've freely acknowledged his offensive abilities. It's everyone else who needs to take the rose coloured glasses off and realize that Gonchar isn't the be all end all. In fact, I see plenty of downside to this deal, which I've stated more than once. Very few people here want to even acknowledge that.

The downside is Gonchar getting injured, that's about all I can see. If
he's healthy he gets 60-70 points, he is jsut as good defensivly, maybe
better then A Train, and he is a guy a lot of the kids like KArlsson
can learn from.

There isnt a whole mess of downside here.

We must be watching a different player. He's nothing special defensively from what I've seen and have tendencies to be lazy. We are not anywhere close to being as good defensively with him as opposed to when we had Sutton and Volchenkov.