Sens on July 1st, Free Agents, Trades - Interesting storylines to watch.

Well the FA market for Centers is the lowest I have ever seen. Any teams wanting a center couldn't find a better center in FA so demand may be there and supply is on the side of the Senators.

SeawaySensFan wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:Pete LeBrun:

Asked Sens GM Bryan Murray whether he's still
trying with Cullen/Sutton: ``Not at the moment," he texted back at 10:25
a.m. ET

GO SENS GO!!!

Busy finalizing the deal that will see us ice a Spezza-less Senators?

Believe it or not, I have just enough optimism to believe that. Not that I want Spezza gone, but I think the return could land us a 1st line C and another Top 6 through subsequent trades/signings.

Speculation is rampant right now that CGY is moving fast to clear cap space and is calling a presser for later this morning, and for what it's worth, CGY is the one team that has constantly been brought up in discussions about trading Spezza.

Does 2 + 2 = 4 here? Maybe. Maybe not. I don't really know what CGY has that could be of interest to us, tho'.

rooneypoo wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:Pete LeBrun:

Asked Sens GM Bryan Murray whether he's still
trying with Cullen/Sutton: ``Not at the moment," he texted back at 10:25
a.m. ET

GO SENS GO!!!

Busy finalizing the deal that will see us ice a Spezza-less Senators?

Believe it or not, I have just enough optimism to believe that. Not that I want Spezza gone, but I think the return could land us a 1st line C and another Top 6 through subsequent trades/signings.

Speculation is rampant right now that CGY is moving fast to clear cap space and is calling a presser for later this morning, and for what it's worth, CGY is the one team that has constantly been brought up in discussions about trading Spezza.

Does 2 + 2 = 4 here? Maybe. Maybe not. I don't really know what CGY has that could be of interest to us, tho'.

CGY has nothing of interest to US, certainly. But probably enough to package up to make an acquisition. Good enough for me.

doubt they have any good prospects, Calgary that is, Iginla ++ would be the only way to start any discussions.

rooneypoo wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:Pete LeBrun:

Asked Sens GM Bryan Murray whether he's still
trying with Cullen/Sutton: ``Not at the moment," he texted back at 10:25
a.m. ET

GO SENS GO!!!

Busy finalizing the deal that will see us ice a Spezza-less Senators?

Believe it or not, I have just enough optimism to believe that. Not that I want Spezza gone, but I think the return could land us a 1st line C and another Top 6 through subsequent trades/signings.

Speculation is rampant right now that CGY is moving fast to clear cap space and is calling a presser for later this morning, and for what it's worth, CGY is the one team that has constantly been brought up in discussions about trading Spezza.

Does 2 + 2 = 4 here? Maybe. Maybe not. I don't really know what CGY has that could be of interest to us, tho'.

They shouldn't have to clear a ton though. I would assume there are roster players coming back in a Spezza deal and with this being the off-season, they could go over the cap by a certain percentage (I think it's 5%), and still acquire. The fact that they are frantically trying to clear space says to me that they are not only planning a big move cost wise, but that this move is time sensitive.

The alternative is that they go into the season with Matt fuckin' Stajan as their #1 centre. There isn't a whole lot out there worth overpaying for at centre.

SensFan71 wrote:doubt they have any good prospects, Calgary that is, Iginla ++ would be the only way to start any discussions.

No thanks on Iggy. I'd rather take Giordano and Backlund to start the conversation. That's massive cap savings and two nice young players. Backlund's time has come as far as being an NHLer full time, and Giordano blew up last year, when he was the team's best d-man (until Ian White got there anyway).

SensFan71 wrote:doubt they have any good prospects, Calgary that is, Iginla ++ would be the only way to start any discussions.

I think you mean it would have to be Spezza ++ for Iginla.

CockRoche wrote:

SensFan71 wrote:doubt they have any good prospects, Calgary that is, Iginla ++ would be the only way to start any discussions.

I think you mean it would have to be Spezza ++ for Iginla.

Iginla's age plus Spezza's term of contract are the two big hinderances to any deal, not saying by any means that Iggy is done already, but Spezza is quite a few years younger.

If we know Murray, you know he's eager to get Tim Erixon from the Flames.

hemlock wrote:

SensFan71 wrote:doubt they have any good prospects, Calgary that is, Iginla ++ would be the only way to start any discussions.

No thanks on Iggy. I'd rather take Giordano and Backlund to start the conversation. That's massive cap savings and two nice young players. Backlund's time has come as far as being an NHLer full time, and Giordano blew up last year, when he was the team's best d-man (until Ian White got there anyway).

I love Giordano as well. Someone who can play every facet of the game and not hurt you out there. He has a great story and has paid his dues. It all came together last year for him with increased playing time and a bigger role. He responded in a big way for the Flames.

They wouldn't trade Iginla to acquire Spezza, they'd acquire Spezza to play with Iginla. And having Alfie, Iginla and Kovalev down the right side would be epic, but they'd be playing with Fisher, Kelly and Winchester.

I strongly dislike what Calgary has to offer. Maybe Spezza and Bouwmeester have equal value in the short-term (not really IMO) but Spezza has much more importance to us long-term with EK, JC, PW, DR.

I dunno. Apart from Backlund, it's all defence that intrigues me: JBo, Giordano, Erixon, etc.

Be careful what you wish for.

Big Ev wrote:If we know Murray, you know he's eager to get Tim Erixon from the Flames.

Good god no. We have enough stud defensive prospects. We NEED a forward prospect who projects out to more than a solid 2nd or 3rd liner...

hemlock wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:Pete LeBrun:

Asked Sens GM Bryan Murray whether he's still
trying with Cullen/Sutton: ``Not at the moment," he texted back at 10:25
a.m. ET

GO SENS GO!!!

Busy finalizing the deal that will see us ice a Spezza-less Senators?

Believe it or not, I have just enough optimism to believe that. Not that I want Spezza gone, but I think the return could land us a 1st line C and another Top 6 through subsequent trades/signings.

Speculation is rampant right now that CGY is moving fast to clear cap space and is calling a presser for later this morning, and for what it's worth, CGY is the one team that has constantly been brought up in discussions about trading Spezza.

Does 2 + 2 = 4 here? Maybe. Maybe not. I don't really know what CGY has that could be of interest to us, tho'.

They shouldn't have to clear a ton though. I would assume there are roster players coming back in a Spezza deal and with this being the off-season, they could go over the cap by a certain percentage (I think it's 5%), and still acquire. The fact that they are frantically trying to clear space says to me that they are not only planning a big move cost wise, but that this move is time sensitive.

The alternative is that they go into the season with Matt fuckin' Stajan as their #1 centre. There isn't a whole lot out there worth overpaying for at centre.

It's 10% until the season starts.

asq2 wrote:They wouldn't trade Iginla to acquire Spezza, they'd acquire Spezza to play with Iginla. And having Alfie, Iginla and Kovalev down the right side would be epic, but they'd be playing with Fisher, Kelly and Winchester.

I strongly dislike what Calgary has to offer. Maybe Spezza and Bouwmeester have equal value in the short-term (not really IMO) but Spezza has much more importance to us long-term with EK, JC, PW, DR.

I dunno. Apart from Backlund, it's all defence that intrigues me: JBo, Giordano, Erixon, etc.

Be careful what you wish for.

I don't really see a fit. Unless BM's plan is to create a little cap space in the process, and to bring in a guy like Savard simultaneously.

hemlock wrote:

Big Ev wrote:If we know Murray, you know he's eager to get Tim Erixon from the Flames.

Good god no. We have enough stud defensive prospects. We NEED a forward prospect who projects out to more than a solid 2nd or 3rd liner...

We had one, his name was Vlad Tarasenko, and we had one last year, his name was MPS.

I know, I know

SensFan71 wrote:

CockRoche wrote:

SensFan71 wrote:doubt they have any good prospects, Calgary that is, Iginla ++ would be the only way to start any discussions.

I think you mean it would have to be Spezza ++ for Iginla.

Iginla's age plus Spezza's term of contract are the two big hinderances to any deal, not saying by any means that Iggy is done already, but Spezza is quite a few years younger.

I took into account their ages.

I also took into account what they do on the ice, off the ice, for the team, for the community and everything else that it takes to be a superstar in the NHL.

Spezza ++ for Iginla still in my opinion.

Never gonna happen anyway.

CockRoche wrote:

hemlock wrote:

SensFan71 wrote:doubt they have any good prospects, Calgary that is, Iginla ++ would be the only way to start any discussions.

No thanks on Iggy. I'd rather take Giordano and Backlund to start the conversation. That's massive cap savings and two nice young players. Backlund's time has come as far as being an NHLer full time, and Giordano blew up last year, when he was the team's best d-man (until Ian White got there anyway).

I love Giordano as well. Someone who can play every facet of the game and not hurt you out there. He has a great story and has paid his dues. It all came together last year for him with increased playing time and a bigger role. He responded in a big way for the Flames.

Sutter needs to be careful though. People here in Calgary are starting to open their eyes. It's no secret here how well Gio played last year and some people would be pissed if they gave him up. Still, I'd love to have him and he's got some real nice offensive upside.

CockRoche wrote:

SensFan71 wrote:

CockRoche wrote:

SensFan71 wrote:doubt they have any good prospects, Calgary that is, Iginla ++ would be the only way to start any discussions.

I think you mean it would have to be Spezza ++ for Iginla.

Iginla's age plus Spezza's term of contract are the two big hinderances to any deal, not saying by any means that Iggy is done already, but Spezza is quite a few years younger.

I took into account their ages.

I also took into account what they do on the ice, off the ice, for the team, for the community and everything else that it takes to be a superstar in the NHL.

Spezza ++ for Iginla still in my opinion.

Never gonna happen anyway.

Agreed. An Iginla trade signals a total rebuild.