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4662010 NHL Draft - Page 32 Empty Re: 2010 NHL Draft Sat Jun 26, 2010 8:04 pm

SensHulk


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Let's just agree it wasn't a conventional type of draft at all. It was pretty weak and we knew what we were getting into when Murray traded our 2nd round picks away for Cullen and Sutton.

Not the strongest draft for the sens, but after two years of awesome drafting, I'm willing to trust the management for now. They obviously had way more faith in Rundblad than drafting any other dude that was available. Plus the other guys they got...it really is a crapshoot. Every prospect can be made to sound great, but no one really knows how it'll turn out.

I think we gotta also remember that we got Silfverberg, Petterson, Hoffman, Butler still coming up. Lehner too. let's not pretend we have no future.

I will admit this, Murray can never get the 'big deal' that automatically sets contenders apart from the pretenders. Very few gms can. Let July 1st pass by, and let's see what happens. Either way, I think I'm still gonna be pumped for the next few seasons.

4672010 NHL Draft - Page 32 Empty Re: 2010 NHL Draft Sat Jun 26, 2010 8:08 pm

Devo


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On one last note..My family has invitations to the prospect camp (not sure how that works right yet, but it's a season ticket thing). If it is not open to the public anyone interested in going?

4682010 NHL Draft - Page 32 Empty Re: 2010 NHL Draft Sat Jun 26, 2010 8:11 pm

SeawaySensFan


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Are we still getting a pick for Volchenkov's rights?

4692010 NHL Draft - Page 32 Empty Re: 2010 NHL Draft Sat Jun 26, 2010 8:11 pm

SensHulk

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Devo wrote:On one last note..My family has invitations to the prospect camp (not sure how that works right yet, but it's a season ticket thing). If it is not open to the public anyone interested in going?

That's awesome. I'd love to go, but I think some other people on this board would love it way more than me. 2010 NHL Draft - Page 32 805406

4702010 NHL Draft - Page 32 Empty Re: 2010 NHL Draft Sat Jun 26, 2010 8:17 pm

Flo The Action

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i admit i'm not very excited about our later pickings but culek seems decent and Rundblad might of been one of the best decisions made. it's frustrating not being able to get some really good forward prospects that will be ready to play in the near future, but for now i'm looking forward to seeing Butley, wick and perhaps another newish player crack the line-up.

as for people on this site not able to respect everyone's opinion. too bad for them if they have blinders on.
i like hearing different opinions it gives me a broader perspective on some of these discussions.

the day where everyone on this site only repeats what everyone else is saying and, is the day i stop coming.

4712010 NHL Draft - Page 32 Empty Re: 2010 NHL Draft Sat Jun 26, 2010 8:19 pm

Flo The Action

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Bryce Aneloski
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Born Apr 27 1990 -- Pekin, IL
Height 6.02 -- Weight 205

--- Regular Season --- ---- Playoffs ----
Season Team Lge GP G A Pts PIM GP G A Pts PIM
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2007-08 Cedar Rapids RoughRiders USHL 59 8 9 17 39 3 0 0 0 0
2008-09 Providence College NCAA 16 0 1 1 8
2008-09 Cedar Rapids RoughRiders USHL 38 4 8 12 38 5 0 0 0 20
2009-10 Cedar Rapids RoughRiders USHL 60 15 39 54 34 5 0 4 4 0
that is impressive

4722010 NHL Draft - Page 32 Empty Re: 2010 NHL Draft Sat Jun 26, 2010 9:05 pm

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Flo The Action wrote:i admit i'm not very excited about our later pickings but culek seems decent and Rundblad might of been one of the best decisions made.

My petty complaint is that the draft photos this year are cooler than they have been in years past (apart from the coming out from behind the drapes one, that's just bizarre) but we only got photos of one guy with a pretty lousy hair-cut. 2010 NHL Draft - Page 32 270956

I want something like the photo below, but with the Big 4 on defence.

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*goes off and kills a grizzly with his bare hands and then grills it*

4732010 NHL Draft - Page 32 Empty Re: 2010 NHL Draft Sat Jun 26, 2010 9:45 pm

Ev

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Put the C on him right now, Renney!

4742010 NHL Draft - Page 32 Empty Re: 2010 NHL Draft Sat Jun 26, 2010 9:47 pm

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I think Eberle should be the future captain, although Hall totally outclasses him as a player.

4752010 NHL Draft - Page 32 Empty Re: 2010 NHL Draft Sat Jun 26, 2010 10:48 pm

wprager

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rooneypoo wrote:
SpezDispenser wrote:Everyone take it easy and treat others with respect. No one needs to be upset, everyone's entitled to an opinion.

Except when that opinion isn't popular. I've lost 17 rep points in two months for having a poor opinion of Spezza. N4L would be about -146 if I didn't make a point of rep'ing him in response to every undeserved - he earns. And so on.

So, yeah, have an opinion and be respectful, but realize that some opinions will land you loads of -s.

I was kind of hoping that the rep points were being given out not for opinions but for the way those opinions are expressed. We all have opinions and most of us can respect the fact that we are not always going to think the same.


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4762010 NHL Draft - Page 32 Empty Re: 2010 NHL Draft Sun Jun 27, 2010 1:09 am

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Big Ev wrote:I don't think Dash really cares too much about rep, but he is right that it sucks when you get insulted and flamed for simply stating your opinion. Nobody is 100% right here, that's why there are discussions and debates.

Tell that to the people who think this franchise will fall apart without *cough* Spezza.

4772010 NHL Draft - Page 32 Empty Re: 2010 NHL Draft Sun Jun 27, 2010 1:20 am

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Everyone is just afraid. Once we start drafting skilled centers, no one will be against trading Spezza. In a nutshell, most ppl are against trading him due to the lack of depth at that position, and no one on the horizon to come in and take the place. When Yashin got traded, we got that skillful centre back in Spezza. If that type of deal isn't out there, why do the trade? That doesn't mean ppl are oblivious to his careless plays. Most ppl have agreed that if the right trade comes along, u pull the trigger.

I think you need to be a little easier on ppl. And to those who minus you for your opinion, that's extremely stupid and childish. Rather debate it out than do something like that

4782010 NHL Draft - Page 32 Empty Re: 2010 NHL Draft Sun Jun 27, 2010 3:20 am

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How can anyone say it wasn't a good draft for the Sens? You don't trust Murray, Dorion and Forsberg after they completely rebuilt our D? Don't worry, they know what they're doing!

4792010 NHL Draft - Page 32 Empty Re: 2010 NHL Draft Sun Jun 27, 2010 8:49 am

wprager

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rooneypoo wrote:
Big Ev wrote:I don't think Dash really cares too much about rep, but he is right that it sucks when you get insulted and flamed for simply stating your opinion. Nobody is 100% right here, that's why there are discussions and debates.

Tell that to the people who think this franchise will fall apart without *cough* Spezza.

There is difference of opinion and then there's outright disrespect. Was there any reason for you to insert the little "*cough*" in there other than to make a tiny little jab at someone.

By the way, who here thinks the franchise will fall apart with out Spezza? A few say that it will set them back until they find a 1st line center to replace #19 -- that's not really an opinion as much as it is a fact of NHL life. Unless you are of the opinion that we could get a #1 center in return, you pretty much have to accept that it will be some time before we get one. We all remember the years when Bonk was #1.


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4802010 NHL Draft - Page 32 Empty Re: 2010 NHL Draft Sun Jun 27, 2010 9:17 am

wprager

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SpezDispenser wrote:How can anyone say it wasn't a good draft for the Sens? You don't trust Murray, Dorion and Forsberg after they completely rebuilt our D? Don't worry, they know what they're doing!

We needed a top-three winger to play with Spezza or a 2nd line center to push Fish to the wing. I'm more than a little concerned about Michalek have major knee injuries to both knees. A year from now we lose Kovalev and a year after that Alfie will be pushing 40. We can all hope that Regin will continue to grow into a top-three player but we shouldn't fool ourselves into thinking he will replace either Kovalev or Alfie any time soon.

Does that answer the question?

I know this was not the draft to get excited picking 16th, and *in that context* you could say it was good. But let's not kid ourselves, this was not a good draft for anyone outside of the top-10 (maybe even top-five) or those who lucked out in picking the next Alfie.


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4812010 NHL Draft - Page 32 Empty Re: 2010 NHL Draft Sun Jun 27, 2010 11:07 am

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Devo wrote:
Gohan wrote:
Dash wrote:
N4L wrote:
Dash wrote:This might be the most anti-climactic draft in Sens history.

The Sens website is advertising draft day hats and have a jersey and it says "Who will the sens draft in the 2010 1st round?"Answer: Nobody. They will draft a guy who was drafted a year ago.

Then we sit for the 2nd where we had two picks and watch a bunch of good picks waltz by. Then we miss out on Kabanov (who was once dubbed the next Ovechkin) and pass on Pulkinen, the only forward left anyone knows of.

YOu're point?

My point is I am disappointed. I was really looking forward to the possibility of adding a guy that could absolutely be an impact player almost immediately. And I get "-" for that, awesome. Guys can spam the boards with "source?", "updates on the future of Spezza?", personally attack other members, use politically incorrect terminology as a means of insulting people, but express your opinions and your hard earned reputation suffers. Thanks. This might be enough to turn someone away, and I can't believe that I would ever feel this way. I used to enjoy coming here.
For whinning about not getting an impact forward with the 16th pick or worse, and thinking you know better than guys who get paid to do this stuff 365? Yeah, a (-) is pretty much well-earned.

...and that "hard earned reputation" is on an internet msg board...grow up.

Dash's point ( and please correct me Dash if I am misspeaking) is that the Draft and July 1 are the only periods really that a fanbase can get energized about their team. Trade deadline is more of a short term solution, whereas July 1 and the Draft (especially the draft) is where teams build for the future. This draft you look at the Senators, and my Devils and both drafts look crappy. At least NJ got Merrill, however I look at this draft as bad after the first 10 picks maybe 15.

Unfortunately that wasn't communicated by TSN, ESPN, the Senators or anyone else frankly. There were some people here who were talking about it not being a good draft year for talent, but outside of that it is easy to see expectations crushed.

Without knowing the guys like Rundblad, and Sorensen it's easy to feel robbed of any excitement. We got 2 forwards 6'2" or taller and a top puck moving Dman in a prospect this year. The last 2 years Murray did an outstanding job drafting and I think he set the precedent.

I don't begrudge anyone who was disappointed with this draft, but all I ask is that you temper either your excitement or anger for about 3 or 4 years to see where it sorts out. This wasn't going to be a knockout draft, it just wasn't built to be that way, and seeing all the players that either went 20 or 30 spots ahead of where they were projected, or further back lend credence to that argument. THere was no consensus, just a lot of different opinions much like this board.

Good on you Dash for speaking your mind, opinions aren't wrong so don't stop.

Devo
That's exactly why my first response to him was one of disbelief for Dash's lack of faith. It's the right of the fan to question management decisions, but quesitoning them without any knowledge of the players they selected and limited knowledge of the players they passed up is nonsense. We don't know what was communicated behind closed doors or on the draft floor, so why be upset or dismayed. Trust the people who are paid the average Canadian salary every month... Trust the people who have been paid to do this for the better part of their professional careers. And, quite frankly, get over yourself. If you knew better than them, you wouldn't be posting your opinions on an internet msg board...

4822010 NHL Draft - Page 32 Empty Re: 2010 NHL Draft Sun Jun 27, 2010 11:10 am

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Michallica wrote:
Devo wrote:On one last note..My family has invitations to the prospect camp (not sure how that works right yet, but it's a season ticket thing). If it is not open to the public anyone interested in going?

That's awesome. I'd love to go, but I think some other people on this board would love it way more than me. 2010 NHL Draft - Page 32 805406

There are times when it's only available to season ticket holders, but there's always a few times that are open to the public.

4832010 NHL Draft - Page 32 Empty Re: 2010 NHL Draft Sun Jun 27, 2010 11:12 am

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asq2 wrote:I think Eberle should be the future captain, although Hall totally outclasses him as a player.

I can't agree there. Eberle is a character player, but (after listening to him talk at the draft...the conviction...) Hall is the right man to lead that team. I'd put it on him out of training camp.

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