POLL: Which D-man will the Sens acquire on/by March 3rd

Ward, Leopold, Seidenberg, those are the three that Murray's looking at. Anyone else is gonna be too expensive. That's my final answer on who we're acquiring, one of those.

I'm actually thinking it's gonna be bigger than that. Look towards Robidas, Burns, Zidlicky, Seidenberg and Hamhuis.

stempniaksen wrote:I'm actually thinking it's gonna be bigger than that. Look towards Robidas, Burns, Zidlicky, Seidenberg and Hamhuis.

I find it hard to believe Murray alters the team too much, but maybe.

the robidas rumours seem to be picking up steam. just spotted it on hockey 30 linking him to ottawa. now he is having a career year... wonder what the future holds for him in coming years.

If we get Robidas it means we're losing A-train to free agency, and Murray knows he can't pay him his asking price.

Hoags wrote:If we get Robidas it means we're losing A-train to free agency, and Murray knows he can't pay him his asking price.

Would you be happy about obtaining Robidas at the expense of A-Train?

Cap'n Clutch wrote:
Would you be happy about obtaining Robidas at the expense of A-Train?

I'm not really sure what kind of player Robidas is ... A-train is a second goalie and with the shaky goaltending we've had all year, I think he's almost irreplaceable. He's the only physical presence we have on the blue line as well. Michalek is the closest "replacement" to what A-train brings to this team that I can think of.

I suppose if we have to lose A-train, Robidas would be OK.

Robidas + Michalek would be best

Cap'n Clutch wrote:

Hoags wrote:If we get Robidas it means we're losing A-train to free agency, and Murray knows he can't pay him his asking price.

Would you be happy about obtaining Robidas at the expense of A-Train?

Interesting question. I would say no personally, if we're acquiring Robidas, I realize the potential for not re-signing A-Train, but the dream would be to have the both of them bolstering our blue line and to trade Kuba.

Good point SpezD. I like that plan better. With Robidas you don't need Kuba as much anymore.

Hoags wrote:

Cap'n Clutch wrote:
Would you be happy about obtaining Robidas at the expense of A-Train?

I'm not really sure what kind of player Robidas is ... A-train is a second goalie and with the shaky goaltending we've had all year, I think he's almost irreplaceable. He's the only physical presence we have on the blue line as well. Michalek is the closest "replacement" to what A-train brings to this team that I can think of.

I suppose if we have to lose A-train, Robidas would be OK.

Robidas + Michalek would be best

huh? Our goaltending has been pretty good most of the year if not great. There was about a 3 or 4 week stretch where things might have been shaky but so was the rest of the team.

As for A Train being irreplaceable, hardly. He's a nice player to have but anything over 3.5 mil, he is very replaceable. Michalek, Robidas, Seidenberg, a lot of those guys can do that job with Phillips (who makes A Train go) and do it well.

Like I said yesterday, A Train depends on Phillips a great deal and it shows when you look at him on that Russian Team.

There was questions about goaltending all year until Elliott got hot during the big win streak, Leclaire is still a question mark and who knows if Elliott can keep going to the playoffs.

We don't have a Ryan Miller that is unquestionably our #1 goalie whom we trust will make the saves when he has to.

N4L wrote:

Hoags wrote:

Cap'n Clutch wrote:
Would you be happy about obtaining Robidas at the expense of A-Train?

I'm not really sure what kind of player Robidas is ... A-train is a second goalie and with the shaky goaltending we've had all year, I think he's almost irreplaceable. He's the only physical presence we have on the blue line as well. Michalek is the closest "replacement" to what A-train brings to this team that I can think of.

I suppose if we have to lose A-train, Robidas would be OK.

Robidas + Michalek would be best

huh? Our goaltending has been pretty good most of the year if not great. There was about a 3 or 4 week stretch where things might have been shaky but so was the rest of the team.

As for A Train being irreplaceable, hardly. He's a nice player to have but anything over 3.5 mil, he is very replaceable. Michalek, Robidas, Seidenberg, a lot of those guys can do that job with Phillips (who makes A Train go) and do it well.

Like I said yesterday, A Train depends on Phillips a great deal and it shows when you look at him on that Russian Team.

Man, I am glad somebody else finally realized this. Phillips is a rock and has made who ever he played with look better (except Chara).

Hoags wrote:There was questions about goaltending all year until Elliott got hot during the big win streak, Leclaire is still a question mark and who knows if Elliott can keep going to the playoffs.

We don't have a Ryan Miller that is unquestionably our #1 goalie whom we trust will make the saves when he has to.

You dont need a Ryan Miller to win, you need a guy that makes the stops he is supposed to.

People quickly forget how good Leclaire was for the first 5 or 6 weeks. Sole reason The Sens were not out of it early. Elliott was also solid in that time period. For the month of Dec things looked bleek with The Sens goaltending but Brodure and especially Elliott showed they can do the job.

Miller is struggling in a big way in Buffalo and Elliott has been the best goaltender in the world the last 4, 5 weeks of The NHL season.

Aside from one long stretch, Ottawa's goaltending has been very good.

RobbyJ wrote:

N4L wrote:

Hoags wrote:

Cap'n Clutch wrote:
Would you be happy about obtaining Robidas at the expense of A-Train?

I'm not really sure what kind of player Robidas is ... A-train is a second goalie and with the shaky goaltending we've had all year, I think he's almost irreplaceable. He's the only physical presence we have on the blue line as well. Michalek is the closest "replacement" to what A-train brings to this team that I can think of.

I suppose if we have to lose A-train, Robidas would be OK.

Robidas + Michalek would be best

huh? Our goaltending has been pretty good most of the year if not great. There was about a 3 or 4 week stretch where things might have been shaky but so was the rest of the team.

As for A Train being irreplaceable, hardly. He's a nice player to have but anything over 3.5 mil, he is very replaceable. Michalek, Robidas, Seidenberg, a lot of those guys can do that job with Phillips (who makes A Train go) and do it well.

Like I said yesterday, A Train depends on Phillips a great deal and it shows when you look at him on that Russian Team.

Man, I am glad somebody else finally realized this. Phillips is a rock and has made who ever he played with look better (except Chara).

People get caught up in the golrious game A Train plays in that he blocks shots and lays people out. Im a fan of his, think Phillips and himself are a great pair, but lets be serious here, A Train stuggles without Phillips and Phillips is good to great with who ever his partner is as long as he in on the left side.

A-train is still a shot blocking machine who's capable of landing a huge hit, none of that relies on Phillips.

Without A-train, our defence is largely a bunch of wusses. Campoli, Karlsson and Kuba aren't going to initimidate any opposing forward, and Carkner fights well but he's not a hitter.

When A-Train blocks 11 shots and keeps Ovechkin to the perimeter the entire game, that alone proves his worth to me. How many guys can do that in this league? 6?

Hoags wrote:A-train is still a shot blocking machine who's capable of landing a huge hit, none of that relies on Phillips.

Without A-train, our defence is largely a bunch of wusses. Campoli, Karlsson and Kuba aren't going to initimidate any opposing forward, and Carkner fights well but he's not a hitter.

Nope, but covering up for him when he misses those big hits and is down and out after an attempt to block a shot is. Like I said, people get caught up in exactly what you just said and dont realize that it's Phillips that covers up for everything and actually moves the puck out of the zone when A Train gets in trouble as well.

Without Phillips people would be talking about A Train in a much more negative light. I'll even tell you what would be said. "He has to know when to step up because he takes himself out of the play too much". "He's always on his but trying to block a shot and players then walk right around him". That's how the conversation would go.

SpezDispenser wrote:When A-Train blocks 11 shots and keeps Ovechkin to the perimeter the entire game, that alone proves his worth to me. How many guys can do that in this league? 6?

Because it was it just A Train out there, right?