GAME DAY: Ottawa Senators @ Toronto Maple Leafs - 7:00pm ET - SAT. Feb 6, 2010

Kovalfie wrote:

marakh wrote:

Kovalfie wrote:would you be all that upset if Cowen turns into a Philips?

Yes. His skating is already better than Philips', he can lead the rush from end to end, I don't know why we can't expect that when he's here.

With Karlsson and Wiercioch's offensive upsides I wouldn't be devastatingly upset if Cowen turned into more of a shutdown defenceman. That being said I hope he turns into a Chara and not a Gill.

devastatingly upset is 2 big words, I wouldn't go that far. But why settle for a Chris Philips when you can get a Tyler Myers?

marakh wrote:

Kovalfie wrote:

marakh wrote:

Kovalfie wrote:would you be all that upset if Cowen turns into a Philips?

Yes. His skating is already better than Philips', he can lead the rush from end to end, I don't know why we can't expect that when he's here.

With Karlsson and Wiercioch's offensive upsides I wouldn't be devastatingly upset if Cowen turned into more of a shutdown defenceman. That being said I hope he turns into a Chara and not a Gill.

devastatingly upset is 2 big words, I wouldn't go that far. But why settle for a Chris Philips when you can get a Tyler Myers?

That's why I feel another year in Junior or AHL before the NHL is what he needs to improve his offensive side even more.

i wouldnt consider philips as awful offensively. He just isnt a PP guy. He has a nice breakout pass and has a way of getting his wrister to the net, although i would agree that he doesnt have a good slapshot and wont score 10+ goals.

Side-by-sides. Get your side-by-side here! (and in 1st post)

Cap'n Clutch wrote:

Michallica wrote:I may have missed something here, but how come Shabbs doesn't do the GDT anymore?

shabbs informed us that he's taking a hiatus from the site. He didn't say for how long and I didn't ask. I figured if he wanted us to know he would have said something.

My guess is OFA (Online Forum Anonymous). Maybe he can recommend a good rehab place for some of us when he gets back.

Kovalfie wrote:would you be all that upset if Cowen turns into a Philips?

No

I'm actually worried when phillips retires we won't have that big vetran d-man that can calm things down and consistently shut the other teams best players down. I think we have all got used to Phillips and don't realize how important he is-pair that with his leadership and we have a big hole.

No one ever says anything about Phillips cause he just does his job-and that is a compliment to him.

It would be great if Cowen can help with that.

Hagman doesn't belong as the Leafs' top goal-scorer any more.

It's hard not to cringe at the 60 powerplay goals allowed by the Leafs, especially when they've registered fewer penalty minutes than the Sens.

Also, as far as Cowen being Phillips 2.0 goes, I think his defensive game will be similar (he's bigger, granted, and a little more physical), but I'll be surprised if he doesn't put up better numbers. His shot is already much better than Phillips', IMO. And if he and Karlsson end up playing together, he's going to get a lot of opportunities to shoot the puck.

beedub wrote:

PKC wrote:

111519 wrote:Is there anyone who would trade Karlsson for Schenn?

Not a chance in Hell for me.

I would...Mattias Karlsson for Luke Schenn sounds about even to me.

I bet people's opinion would be different if Schenn was having another season like he did last year. Sophomore slump, not unheard of, and Karlsson necessarily won't be exempt next year

It wouldn't, but that's because the issue is somewhat divorced from their respective calibres. Schenn is redundant in Ottawa because of the Cowen draft pick. Our experiences under Hartsburg have shown how vital puck-movement and a quick transition is both to offence and to defence, and Karlsson's skill-set is vastly beyond anything else we have in the organization, with the exception of Wiercioch (who is still not at the same calibre).

Anyway, Schenn's actually turned it around the last month or so. He's a good player and he'll almost certainly wear the C at some point.

111519 wrote:Kaberle is a great d-man but the clock is ticking on his carreer.

Not really. He's 31 - and only 7 days older than Phillips. Not every defenceman follows the same career trajectory as Redden. Obviously Lidstrom is a career example but he's still chugging along at 39.

The issue with Kaberle is he's been pretty soft and weak in his own zone. But he's certainly not over the hill.

Leafs are up 3-1 on the New Look Devils

Dash wrote:Leafs are up 3-1 on the New Look Devils

It's Kovalchuk's fault I am sure.

Did he get the goal at least?

marakh wrote:I think teams should not draft defensemen in the top 5 if they don't have that offensive potential that can turn them into N1 Dmen.
I like Schenn but I think he is more a Chris Philips type than a Pronger.

Big-Rig went first overall.

Alright Ottawa, let's go for 12.

L'Ultima Sena:

L'ultima sena!!! that's beautiful and clever! Great work Dash

Leafs lost 4-3 (they were up 3-1)

And someone was claiming they have better defense than us

And what an Epic collapse by the leafs tonight. A collapse of cosmic proportions. Up 3-1 with 4 minutes to go and they lose in REGULATION!!!! McAmmond scores with 3:06 left. McAmmond assists on Zajac's game tying PP goal with 44 seconds left. And Pandolfo scores the game winner with 19 seconds to go.

An absolute Colossal collapse.

Hoags wrote:Leafs lost 4-3 (they were up 3-1)

And someone was claiming they have better defense than us

What a collapse. I saw only the final two minutes of that game -- TOR gives up a PP goal with less than a minute, and then gives up an even strength goal with less than 20 seconds.

That team finds ways to lose.

Also noteworthy: guess who was out on the point, with Kovalchuk, in the last minute of the game, on the PP, making the sweet pass to Zajac? Yep, Dean McAmmond. Go Deaner!

Dash, that's great! I'm not sure I can make everyone out, though. Is that Ruutu moving in on Carrie? And that sure looks like Lee trying to get Bryan to give him one more chance. I especially love Brian holding up 10 -- he'll be going for his 10th straight tomorrow. Beautiful.

But I thought Heatley would be Judas.