Bad Times in Leaf Nation

Dash wrote:Well, when you say you don't think Hall is as good as Tavares, let me just say there are many that feel Hall is better than Tavares. There are some that even thought had Tavares gone in to 2008 draft, he would have been taken 2nd behind Stamkos.

It was a bad deal. An offer sheet would have gotten him for less. Boston was in a bind and the Leafs got the shaft, explain that one. I'm not saying adding Kessel was bad, but the price it cost them is. Two top 5 picks, for example, would combine for less than one Kessel cap wise. They'd have more space to work with and would not be in a pinch with the cap.

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Dash wrote:Well, I doubt they address the real problems with the team, i.e. Burke and Wilson... so someone or some people will take the heat.

Seriously, where are the true Leaf fans speaking out about how their GM that was to be their savior sent away two potential top 5 picks, with this years looking to be a 1st/2nd?

I don't think the trade was that bad. Yes, Kessel has regressed slightly this year, but he's way to young to believe that he reached his ceiling last year in Boston. Expecting this kid to become a perennial 35+ goal scorer isn't far fetched and that's pretty much what you'd be expecting out of this year's top players in the draft.

For the record, I don't believe either Hall or Seguin will have as big an impact as Tavares. So, realistically, assuming that the Leafs would have drafted a forward with their pick, they'd be looking to get a Phil Kessel calibre player.

Instead of going that route and developing that draft pick, they went with the already developed player.

The big problem in Toronto is that they have so much failure on that roster. No heart, no team unity, no high end skill (aside from Kessel and Kaberle).

That trade was awful from the second it was a thought in Burke's mind. With the roster Burke put together he actualyl believed they had a shot, the media even bought into his BS.

There is no shot in hell, especially for Kessel (a guy with no heart and hasnt proven a thing in The NHL) that trading your first rounder this year and next while "rebuilding" was ever a good idea or something that should be considered.

You know how many first round pics (their own) Ottawa has ever given away? None, ever. For the most part they are competitive year in and out, that's why Toronto has 1 good year in 5 on average. Same old things in Toronto, just a bigger goof in charge. Burke is the most over rated GM in The NHL by a large margin.

Dash wrote:that link is for an NCAA game

AlfieisGod11 wrote:If it's possible, the Leafs have gotten worse

Dash wrote:Can the Leafs call up Kadri? Is it fair to London, and is it even possible?

beerandsens wrote:Well, that further degenerates Toronto's top 6...

rooneypoo wrote:

Dash wrote:Can the Leafs call up Kadri? Is it fair to London, and is it even possible?

I doubt they have the cap space. Kadri's ELC is for the max allowable -- $3.75 mil or whatever.