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SeawaySensFan


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rooneypoo wrote:
SeawaySensFan wrote:Biggest hit of the night: Neil on Eaton.

Does anyone know who laid the second biggest hit?

Kovalev. GAME DAY: Ottawa Senators  @ Pittsburgh Penguins - 7:00pm ET - Thu. Jan. 28. 2010 - Page 25 754246

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rooneypoo wrote:
SeawaySensFan wrote:Biggest hit of the night: Neil on Eaton.

Does anyone know who laid the second biggest hit?

Kovalev. GAME DAY: Ottawa Senators  @ Pittsburgh Penguins - 7:00pm ET - Thu. Jan. 28. 2010 - Page 25 754246

Kovalev is a perfect example of this team. Damn near bi-polar, going from extremely bad to extremely good. When he's on, he's worth every red cent of that contract. I'm sure that's what Melnyk thought he would be getting.

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PKC wrote:
N4L wrote:
PKC wrote:
SeawaySensFan wrote:
SpezDispenser wrote:
SeawaySensFan wrote:I'm hearing that there are swirlings of the following:

To PIT:

Kovalchuk, Kubina, Peverley, Little

To ATL:

Malkin, Goligoski, Staal

Dominoes to follow...

Really? You're probably kidding but that's...interesting... GAME DAY: Ottawa Senators  @ Pittsburgh Penguins - 7:00pm ET - Thu. Jan. 28. 2010 - Page 25 235689

I'm kidding. But if there's any truth to Washington potentially looking at Kovalchuk, Shero would be wise to do something about it.

Malkin is doomed to play in Crosby's shadow in Pittsburgh and Kovalchuk seems to want to play with a Center equal to his talents.

Obviously, lesser players and/or picks and/or prospects would be in play but that's the meat of it and it would look good for both teams, IMO.

How can either of Pittsburgh or Washington afford that guy? It's just not possible.

Kovalchuk is going to LA. They have SO many pieces to move, so much cap space and are one superstar forward away from blitzing the Western conference.

If LA gets Kovalchuk, I find it hard to pick against them to win the West this year.

I can in a second, that team has next to no playoff expierence.

I think you're off on this one. That team is built for the playoffs, and Kovalchuk puts them so way over the top it's not even funny.

The same could be said for the Hawks last year and they went deep. Lack of experience doesn't always mean a quick exit. They've got alot of character on that club, even with the young guys like Doughty and Brown.

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N4L wrote:How is it built for the playoffs? Goalies - 0 playoff games combined. Captain - 0 playoff games. Doughtey, Johnsson, Kopitar, Simmons, Moeller, and a hand full of others, 0 playoff games. Add in Kovulchuk who has only 4, all which were losses, even with him I dont see The Kings making any real noise.

One step at a time for that team, first step is making the playoffs.

Did you even watch Chicago last year?

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I don't think LA would get very far in the playoffs with Kovalchuk, one round at best.

They're a good young team, but the learning curb can be quite nasty at times -- espcially in the playoffs.

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hemlock wrote:
rooneypoo wrote:
SeawaySensFan wrote:Biggest hit of the night: Neil on Eaton.

Does anyone know who laid the second biggest hit?

Kovalev. GAME DAY: Ottawa Senators  @ Pittsburgh Penguins - 7:00pm ET - Thu. Jan. 28. 2010 - Page 25 754246

Kovalev is a perfect example of this team. Damn near bi-polar, going from extremely bad to extremely good. When he's on, he's worth every red cent of that contract. I'm sure that's what Melnyk thought he would be getting.

I'm starting to think that having play at 80 percent of his abilities (?) has a lot to do with this streak.

15 points in the last 14, BTW.

rooneypoo

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SeawaySensFan wrote:
hemlock wrote:
rooneypoo wrote:
SeawaySensFan wrote:Biggest hit of the night: Neil on Eaton.

Does anyone know who laid the second biggest hit?

Kovalev. GAME DAY: Ottawa Senators  @ Pittsburgh Penguins - 7:00pm ET - Thu. Jan. 28. 2010 - Page 25 754246

Kovalev is a perfect example of this team. Damn near bi-polar, going from extremely bad to extremely good. When he's on, he's worth every red cent of that contract. I'm sure that's what Melnyk thought he would be getting.

I'm starting to think that having play at 80 percent of his abilities (?) has a lot to do with this streak.

15 points in the last 14, BTW.

Kovalev has been fantastic for us since about late November / early December. I hope his coaches are making detailed notes and video compilations for him, and saying "this is how you need to play." He's not getting a lot of goals, I know, but that's OK -- all we need is him to come together with 2 other guys to form a line that poses a consistent threat every game.

Love his game lately, although if we're nitpicking, I guess I'd like to see a little more of that Kovalev who absolutely feasted on the PP these last 3-4 years. Our PP has looked remarkably better these last 5 games or so, tho'.

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I didn't see many post game interviews, did anyone ask Chris Neil what the boards at the Mellon taste like?

SeawaySensFan

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Hobiesens wrote:I didn't see many post game interviews, did anyone ask Chris Neil what the boards at the Mellon taste like?

He couldn't remember since the taste of victory wiped that flavour out of his mouth.

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Hobiesens wrote:I didn't see many post game interviews, did anyone ask Chris Neil what the boards at the Mellon taste like?

He passed on that meal and fed it to Eaton instead. GAME DAY: Ottawa Senators  @ Pittsburgh Penguins - 7:00pm ET - Thu. Jan. 28. 2010 - Page 25 754246

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rooneypoo wrote:
SeawaySensFan wrote:
hemlock wrote:
rooneypoo wrote:
SeawaySensFan wrote:Biggest hit of the night: Neil on Eaton.

Does anyone know who laid the second biggest hit?

Kovalev. GAME DAY: Ottawa Senators  @ Pittsburgh Penguins - 7:00pm ET - Thu. Jan. 28. 2010 - Page 25 754246

Kovalev is a perfect example of this team. Damn near bi-polar, going from extremely bad to extremely good. When he's on, he's worth every red cent of that contract. I'm sure that's what Melnyk thought he would be getting.

I'm starting to think that having play at 80 percent of his abilities (?) has a lot to do with this streak.

15 points in the last 14, BTW.

Kovalev has been fantastic for us since about late November / early December. I hope his coaches are making detailed notes and video compilations for him, and saying "this is how you need to play." He's not getting a lot of goals, I know, but that's OK -- all we need is him to come together with 2 other guys to form a line that poses a consistent threat every game.

Love his game lately, although if we're nitpicking, I guess I'd like to see a little more of that Kovalev who absolutely feasted on the PP these last 3-4 years. Our PP has looked remarkably better these last 5 games or so, tho'.

Couldn't agree more. I've seen a big change in his game ever since he came back from Russia after his mother and law died. The unfortunate thing is that nobody ever seems to notice his good play, and they just associate him with his up and down past.

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SpezDispenser wrote:
N4L wrote:
Which is good, but those ES goals wont be going in all the time, what will we see when things turn a little sour like they always do at some point for every team? What Spezza do we see then? That's why I am not convinced one bit about what Spezza is doing and why those bad habits will end up costing Spezza and The Sens.

They will, there's no question. That's twice in the first couple of minutes of a game he's made a turnover that could/should have cost us a goal. It's up to Spezza what game he plays when things aren't going his way, but guaranteed he'll see less ice time under Clouston if he keeps with the turnovers. Regin can do it, the lines are all completely interchangeable. He'll be playing 10 minutes ES and the rest on the PP if he dogs it IMO.

Sorry, but I didn't see anything in the "first couple of minutes of a game" last night except for Fisher. Spezza's line was on first and they did not giveup any chances. Fisher's came on and he bobbled the puck that led to Malkin's goal. After I heard Neely (and others" ripping Jason a new one I watched very carefully for bone-headed plays, and saw nothing until the PP in the third (or was that late second?) where he passed it right to a Pen player.

Spezza was named Hockey Night's 3rd star:
http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/story/2010/01/29/sp-hockey-3-stars.html

Is everyone in the hockey world blind except for a few of you here?


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wprager wrote:
SpezDispenser wrote:
N4L wrote:
Which is good, but those ES goals wont be going in all the time, what will we see when things turn a little sour like they always do at some point for every team? What Spezza do we see then? That's why I am not convinced one bit about what Spezza is doing and why those bad habits will end up costing Spezza and The Sens.

They will, there's no question. That's twice in the first couple of minutes of a game he's made a turnover that could/should have cost us a goal. It's up to Spezza what game he plays when things aren't going his way, but guaranteed he'll see less ice time under Clouston if he keeps with the turnovers. Regin can do it, the lines are all completely interchangeable. He'll be playing 10 minutes ES and the rest on the PP if he dogs it IMO.

Sorry, but I didn't see anything in the "first couple of minutes of a game" last night except for Fisher. Spezza's line was on first and they did not giveup any chances. Fisher's came on and he bobbled the puck that led to Malkin's goal. After I heard Neely (and others" ripping Jason a new one I watched very carefully for bone-headed plays, and saw nothing until the PP in the third (or was that late second?) where he passed it right to a Pen player.

Spezza was named Hockey Night's 3rd star:
http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/story/2010/01/29/sp-hockey-3-stars.html

Is everyone in the hockey world blind except for a few of you here?

Um, yes. GAME DAY: Ottawa Senators  @ Pittsburgh Penguins - 7:00pm ET - Thu. Jan. 28. 2010 - Page 25 754246

Spezza has been decent since his return, not great. He's playing more like he has to -- I nearly crapped myself when he charged the net last night, but then again, I was screaming at him 2 seconds later for skating away from the net, hands up, thinking he'd scored, ignoring the puck -- but the consistency issue Neely is talking about is there, for sure. Anyone who doesn't see it needs to take a closer look. And anyone who says Spezza deserved notice over Elliott last night, and Foligno, needs to take the super-star goggles off, put away the stat sheet, and watch the game. Elliott had far more of an impact on that game than any other Sens player, period.

N4L mentioned earlier that Spezza looks like a rookie at times right now. I think that's bang on with that. That might actually be a good thing, too. He has to forget all the bad habits he's developed and begin anew, in some areas, so maybe his inconsistency is a sign of him trying to change. If so, I guess we have to expect him to struggle. As long as he's moving in the right direction, I'll be happ(ier).

The reason N4L, I, and a couple of others keep coming back to Spezza is simple: he turns 27 years old, he's our highest paid player, his NMC kicks in in 5 months, and yet he's always "almost there" or whatever. Much of the team's future hangs on what we do with Spezza and how he develops. If we keep Spezza and he goes wrong for us -- and there are plenty of warning signs that suggest that just might happen -- this team is going to be saddled with a big, unmoveable contract for a long time.

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rooneypoo wrote:
wprager wrote:
SpezDispenser wrote:
N4L wrote:
Which is good, but those ES goals wont be going in all the time, what will we see when things turn a little sour like they always do at some point for every team? What Spezza do we see then? That's why I am not convinced one bit about what Spezza is doing and why those bad habits will end up costing Spezza and The Sens.

They will, there's no question. That's twice in the first couple of minutes of a game he's made a turnover that could/should have cost us a goal. It's up to Spezza what game he plays when things aren't going his way, but guaranteed he'll see less ice time under Clouston if he keeps with the turnovers. Regin can do it, the lines are all completely interchangeable. He'll be playing 10 minutes ES and the rest on the PP if he dogs it IMO.

Sorry, but I didn't see anything in the "first couple of minutes of a game" last night except for Fisher. Spezza's line was on first and they did not giveup any chances. Fisher's came on and he bobbled the puck that led to Malkin's goal. After I heard Neely (and others" ripping Jason a new one I watched very carefully for bone-headed plays, and saw nothing until the PP in the third (or was that late second?) where he passed it right to a Pen player.

Spezza was named Hockey Night's 3rd star:
http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/story/2010/01/29/sp-hockey-3-stars.html

Is everyone in the hockey world blind except for a few of you here?

Um, yes. GAME DAY: Ottawa Senators  @ Pittsburgh Penguins - 7:00pm ET - Thu. Jan. 28. 2010 - Page 25 754246

Spezza has been decent since his return, not great. He's playing more like he has to -- I nearly crapped myself when he charged the net last night, but then again, I was screaming at him 2 seconds later for skating away from the net, hands up, thinking he'd scored, ignoring the puck -- but the consistency issue Neely is talking about is there, for sure. Anyone who doesn't see it needs to take a closer look. And anyone who says Spezza deserved notice over Elliott last night, and Foligno, needs to take the super-star goggles off, put away the stat sheet, and watch the game. Elliott had far more of an impact on that game than any other Sens player, period.

N4L mentioned earlier that Spezza looks like a rookie at times right now. I think that's bang on with that. That might actually be a good thing, too. He has to forget all the bad habits he's developed and begin anew, in some areas, so maybe his inconsistency is a sign of him trying to change. If so, I guess we have to expect him to struggle. As long as he's moving in the right direction, I'll be happ(ier).

The reason N4L, I, and a couple of others keep coming back to Spezza is simple: he turns 27 years old, he's our highest paid player, his NMC kicks in in 5 months, and yet he's always "almost there" or whatever. Much of the team's future hangs on what we do with Spezza and how he develops. If we keep Spezza and he goes wrong for us -- and there are plenty of warning signs that suggest that just might happen -- this team is going to be saddled with a big, unmoveable contract for a long time.

Unless we deal him for Phaneuf. That opens up a whole lot of options for us, including dealing Volchenkov with less regret than otherwise.

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hemlock wrote:Kovalev is a perfect example of this team. Damn near bi-polar, going from extremely bad to extremely good. When he's on, he's worth every red cent of that contract. I'm sure that's what Melnyk thought he would be getting.

Yeah really.

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My only issue with Spezza, is that as much as people state that the teams future is tied to him I for one don't believe that. Every time he is out injured, the team seems to continue forward and in some cases actually improve, as the team plays a more consistant game.

At some point in the next 3 months I think he has to prove to Murray and Clouston that this team is better off with him than without him. If he can't show that he is making a major contribution to the team, and I believe it has to be major based on his status (1st line center) and the $$$ paid to him, then he HAS to be moved out. Not because I want him gone, but for the financal (cap and payroll) future of this team.

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rooneypoo wrote:

Um, yes. GAME DAY: Ottawa Senators  @ Pittsburgh Penguins - 7:00pm ET - Thu. Jan. 28. 2010 - Page 25 754246


The reason N4L, I, and a couple of others keep coming back to Spezza is simple: he turns 27 years old, he's our highest paid player, his NMC kicks in in 5 months, and yet he's always "almost there" or whatever. Much of the team's future hangs on what we do with Spezza and how he develops. If we keep Spezza and he goes wrong for us -- and there are plenty of warning signs that suggest that just might happen -- this team is going to be saddled with a big, unmoveable contract for a long time.

Oh My god, I didn't think he was that hold. I had to go and check it. Wow

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Devo wrote:My only issue with Spezza, is that as much as people state that the teams future is tied to him I for one don't believe that. Every time he is out injured, the team seems to continue forward and in some cases actually improve, as the team plays a more consistant game.

At some point in the next 3 months I think he has to prove to Murray and Clouston that this team is better off with him than without him. If he can't show that he is making a major contribution to the team, and I believe it has to be major based on his status (1st line center) and the $$$ paid to him, then he HAS to be moved out. Not because I want him gone, but for the financal (cap and payroll) future of this team.

I don't think the team hinges on Spezza at all. I think he'll be the top point producer, but he won't be the PKer, the guy with the most ice time, nothing like that. Is he worth the cap hit for 85 points a year? Yes. Why? Because you need to score to win, simple as that. And he and Michalek will form a nice duo for the next 5 years +.

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