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Have your say on the Sens year thus far!

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Who doesn't fit? I think everyone is OK for now but I do believe Kelly will be the odd man out. Mostly because of his salary. I also believe that Z. Smith was auditioning for life without Kelly and Winchester is also showing he might be that guy. The persistent rumours about Cogliano, a Kelly-like player IMO, tell me where things are headed as well.

Who do we re-sign? Winchester, Regin and Campoli. I would also add that I would sooner re-sign Picard than have him walk for nothing.

Get a cheaper alternative to (not "replacement for") Volchenkov and add a scoring and/or playmaking LW.

I don't think it's realistic to re-sign Brodeur even though I wish we could.

PTFlea


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A+: The very best

Cory Clouston. I was initially gonna put him at the end, but he should be spearheading this with Alfie. He's finally balanced the aggressive play with the defensive play and made every single player better IMO. He's proving he's not slouch at coaching - a beautiful song to Sens fans ears.

Alfredsson. The best of the best of the best on this team. When he's playing, the Sens look like they can weather any storm, when he's out 9 times out of 10 the Sens wither. He controls the play and makes Ds back up, creating space and opportunities for different plays in the offensive zone.

A: Huge staples to the team

Phillips and Volchenkov. Both of these guys have provided amazing defense since the very start of the year. Lapses at times and a couple of injuries have put them at As instead of A+s, but both players willingness to buy into the Clouston system of taking some calculated risks and providing more offense = a renewed sense of belonging and the true anchors on our blue line.

Peter Regin. Damn ya! This kid had some ups and downs at the beginning of the year, but has since taken to making smart, crisp passes in the offensive zone while also having the creative instincts and the courage to make plays on his own from time to time - all wrapped in a neat bow of excellent 2-way play.

Milan Michalek. Had it not been for a slump, he'd be an A+, but even when he's slumping offensively, you can't take his wheels or his determination away. Lovely addition to a Clouston coached team.

Chris Kelly. HUGE props to Kelly for turning a somewhat awkward scenario here in Ottawa into a lovefest. Had everyone wondering why we spent the kind of money we did on him, but now, he's shown that he's a key piece in this team's success.

Sharko Ruutu. Same as Kelly, he's shown exactly what he's worth in terms of a strong defensive game, the willingness to mix it up and surprisingly is having one of his best offensive years as well.

Chris Neil. All year Neil has been the catalyst for physical play, forechecking and intimidating opponents into coughing up the puck. The latest example was against the mighty Blackhawks when he made Seabrook, Keith and Campbell all panic and give up the puck at different times in the game. Two of these resulted in goals.

Matt Carkner. Pretty close to an A+. For what we're paying him, he's delivering big time. He's an anchor back there, he's big, he's nasty, he's aggressive and he's one of the more feared fighters now. One of the feel good stories of the year.

The rest....

Jason Spezza: C+. He's been on again, off again the whole year. Most thing it has to do with injuries, some think he's lost his shine completely. His GWG on Saturday is a nice start to what we can hope will be a great 2nd half.

Alex Kovalev: B. The exact definition of a streaky, average player, but no mistakes, if he continues to play the way he is now (which is unlikely), he'll be a major reason for the Sens success.

Nick Folgino. B-. I've been disappointed in Foligno personally. I thought he might have a chance to be a legitimate 25 goal man this year, but he's struggled with consistency and his battle level at time leaves something to be desired.

Pascal Leclaire. C-. Sometimes good, sometimes not great, always injured. We'll all have to wait until he can play a string of 15-20 games in a row before any final judgments can be made. As of now? A mistake acquisition.

Brian Elliott. C. Inconsistent as the day is long. Was tepid during the month when Leclaire was out, but electric this past 5 games.

Filip Kuba. C. Boy I wish he'd regain his form of last year after we re-signed him. He made us all look silly when he was playing so well and so many of us wanted him traded at the deadline, but now...he's looking like the player we wanted traded.

Ryan Shannon. B-. Has recovered enough to get a B, but his early year struggles cannot be forgotten yet. Needs to continue his fine play in order to get another contract from the Sens.



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Hoags wrote:I would love Clouston to win Coach of the Year but it's hard to ignore Joe Sacco's success.

I'll be stunned if CC even gets nominated.

Really name another team (besides maybe Phoenix and Colorado) who are performing at a higher level than everyone thought.

Even the homers (not meant in a bad way really) on this site thought Ottawa would be 10th to 8th. To be 6th at this point and playing quite well, and could have been even better if they were not without their #1 goalie, entire top line and 1/2 of their shut down pairing for more than a month (all at the same time). Is remarkable.

I see him in the running, but I don't see him winning.

PTFlea

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marakh wrote:I think you should start your blog on the coach.

Yeah, I think so... Ahhhhh!

LeCaptain

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We are 5th, not 6th Have your say on the Sens year thus far! - Page 2 754246 .

And SpeZ, where is Fisher in the list?

I would also give Kovalev a B+ or a A-. He was the N1 reason that (10 game?) sequence was not 10 losses in a row. Wihtout him, I think we would be in 12th... But That's just my opinion, he's where I thought he would be at the time of the signing.

Cap'n Clutch

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Devo wrote:
Hoags wrote:I would love Clouston to win Coach of the Year but it's hard to ignore Joe Sacco's success.

I'll be stunned if CC even gets nominated.

Really name another team (besides maybe Phoenix and Colorado) who are performing at a higher level than everyone thought.

Even the homers (not meant in a bad way really) on this site thought Ottawa would be 10th to 8th. To be 6th at this point and playing quite well, and could have been even better if they were not without their #1 goalie, entire top line and 1/2 of their shut down pairing for more than a month (all at the same time). Is remarkable.

I see him in the running, but I don't see him winning.

I personally had Ottawa finishing 7th before the season started. They have played way over my expectations even if you don't consider the injury and goaltending woes.


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PTFlea

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marakh wrote:We are 5th, not 6th Have your say on the Sens year thus far! - Page 2 754246 .

And SpeZ, where is Fisher in the list?

I would also give Kovalev a B+ or a A-. He was the N1 reason that (10 game?) sequence was not 10 losses in a row. Wihtout him, I think we would be in 12th... But That's just my opinion, he's where I thought he would be at the time of the signing.

Fisher would get an A as well, because even though he's been inconsistent, he's one of the first half's MVPs.

PTFlea

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I'll be writing this up soon, get your input in if you wish!

dennycrane

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The Sens luck as it relates to injuries to key players seems to have run out this season. While only 13th in man-games lost to injury, a significant percentage of those have been to the #1 goalie, top 3 d-men, and top-5 forwards.

To be in 5th place is a sign that the team is buying into a playing style that plays to their strengths.. I'll avoid the obvious in my selections:

Disappointments:
Whomever is responsible for assistant coach accountability - It took 1 year too long to fire the goaltending coach. A PP that even with injury could trot out a top unit consisting of Alfie, Spezza, Michalek, Fisher, Kovalev, Kuba, Karlsson, or Foligno should not be in 30th. Hopefully the firing of Eli Wilson has put the fear into whomever is in charge of this horrible power play.

The Flyers, The Bruins - These teams should be ahead of the Sens as they are more talented. Their relative failure to consistently beat on a terrible Eastern Conference has allowed the Sens to be where they are. I don't begrudge the Sens being in the top 8, but I'm still not convinced they are the fifth-best team in the conference.

Pleasant Surprises:
See Flyers, Bruins

Jarkko Ruutu - He is on pace a career-high in points.
Chris Neil - He has been getting worse over the last two years. He has become a force on home ice when the coaching staff get their match up with that line.
Chris Kelly - He too has surprised with some offense after a dismal start.

Resign:
Jonathan Cheechoo (but ONLY under this condition) - I think he is well liked on the team and a decent contributor. With any luck at all, he would have 10 goals. I would sign Cheechoo to a 1 yr. extension at 1 million bucks. That would keep a good player in the fold and also reduce his cap hit for the 10-11 season.

Who Doesn't Fit:
Jesse Winchester - I like him, but I think you could get something decent for him. It would also help to solve a logjam this year, and free up a permanent spot for Zack Smith next year.

PTFlea

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I agree with that take except - what do you mean with Cheechoo? You would buy him out, then re-sign him for next year?

That's an idea I haven't heard before, but it's neat. Buy him out, take the 1 million cap hit, then re-sign him for 550K X 2 years. So he remains part of the team, but his cap hit is at 1.55 instead of 3 million.

Hmmm....that's basically what we did with Alfie, but we raised his salary a little, not lowered, so potentially it can be done...

Bramlet07

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SpezDispenser wrote:I agree with that take except - what do you mean with Cheechoo? You would buy him out, then re-sign him for next year?

That's an idea I haven't heard before, but it's neat. Buy him out, take the 1 million cap hit, then re-sign him for 550K X 2 years. So he remains part of the team, but his cap hit is at 1.55 instead of 3 million.

Hmmm....that's basically what we did with Alfie, but we raised his salary a little, not lowered, so potentially it can be done...

Pretty sure a teams gotta wait a year or so to sign a player that they have bought out.

dennycrane

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Bramlet07 is correct. You cannot resign a player that you just bought out.

My thought is that if, and it's a big if, Sens management likes having Cheechoo around, they could offer him an extension to his contract, say 1 yr @ 1 million. As it is right now, Cheechoo has a 3 million cap hit for next year. IF the team wants him around past next season, they could sign him to an extension at a much lower value, thus lowering his cap hit for next season.

It's quite unlikely that Cheechoo is a Sen in the 11-12 season, but you never know.

benIII24III

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Quick thoughts:
where is the Regin, Shannon Love? both have done quite well, especially Regin in the recent injuries that the Sens suffered.

Picard is my favourite... to boooo. He has struggled a lot this year and has not shown any of the talent he supposedly has.

Leclaire = too soon. but that excuse will get old soon. also he appears to be the china doll I feared he would.

Thank god for Alfie, he really is one of the best captains out there.

Phillips looks like he is getting old. He is starting to make a couple bad decisions a game, and chooses to not make the quick safe pass, just watch for it if you have not noticed.

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Bramlet07 wrote:
SpezDispenser wrote:I agree with that take except - what do you mean with Cheechoo? You would buy him out, then re-sign him for next year?

That's an idea I haven't heard before, but it's neat. Buy him out, take the 1 million cap hit, then re-sign him for 550K X 2 years. So he remains part of the team, but his cap hit is at 1.55 instead of 3 million.

Hmmm....that's basically what we did with Alfie, but we raised his salary a little, not lowered, so potentially it can be done...

Pretty sure a teams gotta wait a year or so to sign a player that they have bought out.

I thought so too, that the player is not able to re-sign with the team who bought him out anytime during the season following the buy-out.

PTFlea

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Bramlet07 wrote:
Pretty sure a teams gotta wait a year or so to sign a player that they have bought out.

Good to know. I wasn't sure where DCrane was going there.

PTFlea

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benIII24III wrote:Quick thoughts:
where is the Regin, Shannon Love? both have done quite well, especially Regin in the recent injuries that the Sens suffered.

Picard is my favourite... to boooo. He has struggled a lot this year and has not shown any of the talent he supposedly has.

Leclaire = too soon. but that excuse will get old soon. also he appears to be the china doll I feared he would.

Thank god for Alfie, he really is one of the best captains out there.

Phillips looks like he is getting old. He is starting to make a couple bad decisions a game, and chooses to not make the quick safe pass, just watch for it if you have not noticed.

https://gmcentralhockey.forumotion.net/ottawa-centaurs-f31/the-peter-regin-appreciation-thread-t4079.htm?highlight=regin

There's the Regin Appreciation Thread. A lot of people on here don't love Shannon because he's so hot and cold, but I definitely appreciate what he brings. For the price and the chemistry he has with most on the team, he's a great addition.

Picard does suck, yes.

Leclaire...no one's sure.

I've personally thought Phillips has looked his best ever. I think he makes the passes that he needs to make, makes smarter plays under Clouston and is even a steady offensive player (okay, that might be a stretch). I'm actually very, very pleased with Philly this year.

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dennycrane wrote:Bramlet07 is correct. You cannot resign a player that you just bought out.

My thought is that if, and it's a big if, Sens management likes having Cheechoo around, they could offer him an extension to his contract, say 1 yr @ 1 million. As it is right now, Cheechoo has a 3 million cap hit for next year. IF the team wants him around past next season, they could sign him to an extension at a much lower value, thus lowering his cap hit for next season.

It's quite unlikely that Cheechoo is a Sen in the 11-12 season, but you never know.

Agreed. I can't imagine too many teams being interested, but if he's willing to put his name on a contract for around a million per, I'd do it. A million bucks is alot closer in terms of value for what he brings. Of course...there's always Europe.

I don't believe that an extension would help next years cap hit would it? I know that worked with Alfie, but the contract that was extended was grandfathered from the old CBA. I could be way off base here, but I don't believe a extension now would affect his cap hit for next season. Perhaps there's a doctor in the house who could shed some light.

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hemlock wrote:
dennycrane wrote:Bramlet07 is correct. You cannot resign a player that you just bought out.

My thought is that if, and it's a big if, Sens management likes having Cheechoo around, they could offer him an extension to his contract, say 1 yr @ 1 million. As it is right now, Cheechoo has a 3 million cap hit for next year. IF the team wants him around past next season, they could sign him to an extension at a much lower value, thus lowering his cap hit for next season.

It's quite unlikely that Cheechoo is a Sen in the 11-12 season, but you never know.

Agreed. I can't imagine too many teams being interested, but if he's willing to put his name on a contract for around a million per, I'd do it. A million bucks is alot closer in terms of value for what he brings. Of course...there's always Europe.

I don't believe that an extension would help next years cap hit would it? I know that worked with Alfie, but the contract that was extended was grandfathered from the old CBA. I could be way off base here, but I don't believe a extension now would affect his cap hit for next season. Perhaps there's a doctor in the house who could shed some light.

Based on Loungo's caphit numbers, I'm saying no, and there isn't much in the CBA about it...this was the best reference to it...
A Club shall only be permitted to sign a Player to an "extension"
of the existing SPC in the amount of: (A) the SPC of the Player to
be extended (then included in the Club's Averaged Club Salary);
plus (B) the Club's Payroll Room in the current year; plus (C) the
aggregate Averaged Amounts of any other SPC or SPCs that
expire at the end of such League Year (to extent the Club has other
such SPCs which are currently counting in the Club's Averaged
Club Salary); minus any previously Tagged Payroll Room. The
Tagging Rule referred to in paragraph (e)(iv)(C) above will

thereafter apply.


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