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GAME DAY: Boston Bruins @ Ottawa Senators - 7:00pm ET - Sat. Oct. 24th, 2009; and post game debate

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Cronie


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wprager wrote:No, Neely's right. It wasn't Cheechoo's fault that Clouston put him out there. He is not a defensive specialist or two-way player. Perhaps Clouston wants everyone to be better defensively, and felt that a 2-goal lead with under 2 minutes to go was a safe time to ice the full Spezza line. Hopefully he'll learn that in this league it takes a heck of a lot less time that 1:38 to score a couple of goals. Also, wiht under 2 minutes and a face off in your zone you should have two centers out there. Have Michalek or Cheechoo ever played center? I don't think so. He should have had Spezza out with Kelly, then Fisher with Regin. You don't need to roll four lines with under 2 minutes left, protecting a lead.

Those who blame it on Fisher not clearing the puck, and further adding that this is two games in a row he cost us a game? Wow. In the Thursday game he lost the face off then was tripped trying to clear the puck. He still managed to whack the puck but the point guy just happened to be right there. You can't very easily aim where the puck will go when you are diving at it and hitting it out of mid-air. Then last night, he was on a backhander and in a bad position. Sure, I would have loved it if it had gone sailing high like Alfie's missed open net Thursday night, but it didn't.

But I'd like a couple of questions answered about that whole play:

1. Why didn't one of the forwards give A-Train their stick or at least try to kick the stick over to him?
2. Why did A-Train suddenly decide to go into the corner to pick his stick up before the puck cleared out zone?

Also, this is probably the 15th time in two games where I've seen both Phillips and Volchenkov on the same side of the ice. Usually it's Phillips running over to (for whatever reason) help out A-Train by doubling up on *one* winger, and twice it cost us. Last night when A-Train went to grab his stick Phillips should have crossed back over to the other side. As it was, A-Train almost made it back over to intercept the slap-pass or block the shot. Phillips could have made it over there much, much quicker (he didn't have to bend over and pick up a stick first).

Anyhow, Philchenkov have been playing lights out, so I don't want to slam them too much, but I've been noticing a little bit too much of this crossing over going on.

I'm glad I'm not the only noticing the momentary lapses in judgment lately by 'Philchenkov.' I will cut them some slack as their overall playlately, as you pointed out Rager, has been lights out, but this crossing over risk-taking should be reeled in by Clouston and his staff...quickly IMHO or it will come back, again, to haunt the team on the scoreboard.

wprager


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How the hell did I get a reputation of 6???! When SpezD is at 3 -- and I believe all those are from the one time I clicked "Thank You" just to try it out.

wprager


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OK, someone's playing games with me. It's now up to 7. I can't live up to that much hype. There is a little green bar next to my previous post -- I take it that indicates that someone +'d it. Why, exactly? Who? Do I have a stalker?

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wprager wrote:OK, someone's playing games with me. It's now up to 7. I can't live up to that much hype. There is a little green bar next to my previous post -- I take it that indicates that someone +'d it. Why, exactly? Who? Do I have a stalker?

I clicked it for someone (might have been you but can't remember) just out of curiosity to see what the plus did.

I actually thought it was a way to make the text and contents of the window appear larger (sort of like holding down Ctrl and scrolling with your mouse).

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wprager wrote:How the hell did I get a reputation of 6???! When SpezD is at 3 -- and I believe all those are from the one time I clicked "Thank You" just to try it out.

I don't see the Thank button anywhere. You may have special access to it that I don't though.

So when will you crack under the pressure of your reputation? GAME DAY: Boston Bruins @ Ottawa Senators - 7:00pm ET - Sat. Oct. 24th, 2009; and post game debate - Page 13 932508

Now we're going to expect every post of yours to be a masterpiece - and not just in the fluffing sense. GAME DAY: Boston Bruins @ Ottawa Senators - 7:00pm ET - Sat. Oct. 24th, 2009; and post game debate - Page 13 Icon_wink GAME DAY: Boston Bruins @ Ottawa Senators - 7:00pm ET - Sat. Oct. 24th, 2009; and post game debate - Page 13 Icon_razz

No, I'm not your stalker, though.

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The "Thank you" button was only available for a short time. Cap'n explained to me that it was the equivalent of clicking the + three times.


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Seriously though, after what we had to endure the last 2 years, I am pretty satisfied with the overral look of the team.
Also, there have been TONS of late comebacks in a game in the league lately, so we're not the only one to which that happens.

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marakh wrote:Seriously though, after what we had to endure the last 2 years, I am pretty satisfied with the overral look of the team.
Also, there have been TONS of late comebacks in a game in the league lately, so we're not the only one to which that happens.

All I wanted this season, whether win or lose, was to see a system implemented and for the players to work diligently and with great effort within that system.

And so far they have delivered that. What I'm really happy about is that there seems to be room for improvement despite the successful start.

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PKC wrote:
marakh wrote:Seriously though, after what we had to endure the last 2 years, I am pretty satisfied with the overral look of the team.
Also, there have been TONS of late comebacks in a game in the league lately, so we're not the only one to which that happens.

All I wanted this season, whether win or lose, was to see a system implemented and for the players to work diligently and with great effort within that system.

And so far they have delivered that. What I'm really happy about is that there seems to be room for improvement despite the successful start.

That's exactly what my expectations were for this year. I feel we're only going to better. We're going to have some bad losses and some heartbreakers but for the most part I expect us to be competitive.

Once Spezza gets going, Kuba returns and (hopefully) Cheechoo and Karlsson finds their game it will be another step forward for the Sens.

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Hoags wrote:
PKC wrote:
marakh wrote:Seriously though, after what we had to endure the last 2 years, I am pretty satisfied with the overral look of the team.
Also, there have been TONS of late comebacks in a game in the league lately, so we're not the only one to which that happens.

All I wanted this season, whether win or lose, was to see a system implemented and for the players to work diligently and with great effort within that system.

And so far they have delivered that. What I'm really happy about is that there seems to be room for improvement despite the successful start.

That's exactly what my expectations were for this year. I feel we're only going to better. We're going to have some bad losses and some heartbreakers but for the most part I expect us to be competitive.

Once Spezza gets going, Kuba returns and (hopefully) Cheechoo and Karlsson finds their game it will be another step forward for the Sens.

Well said. Those are the improvements I was alluding to, as well as the potential (if not inevitable) improvement of our sad powerplay.

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PKC wrote:
Well said. Those are the improvements I was alluding to, as well as the potential (if not inevitable) improvement of our sad powerplay.

It's unrealistic for everything to work right from the get go.

I feel we've exceeded expectations for our defensive play and PK, with some lapses here and there.

Goaltending is solid so far, Leclaire is very promising and Elliott is a good backup.

Our offence has been weak with some flashes of brilliance (Tampa game) and PP is abysmal.

It looks we're going to be very dangerous SH this year as well ! (flashbacks to 05-06).

Overall I think we're doing good and only getting better. You only have to look at the rest of the league (not just Toronto) to see where we stand.

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PKC wrote:
All I wanted this season, whether win or lose, was to see a system implemented and for the players to work diligently and with great effort within that system.

And so far they have delivered that. What I'm really happy about is that there seems to be room for improvement despite the successful start.

That's a pretty good point as well. We're starting to get more and more solid as a team - and that bodes well for when the schedule gets tougher.

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This team is playing like one. Add in Kuba, and I hate to give up on cheechoo but, it may be time to have him sit for donnovan, and this team not only makes the playoffs, but gets past the first round. suck it tv analysts.



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It's also pretty awesome, I might add, that we were playing our 24-year-old back-up goalie last night, resting our 26-year-old starting goalie while our 18-year-old blue-chip goalie prospect was throwing haymakers in the Soo.

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asq2 wrote:It's also pretty awesome, I might add, that we were playing our 24-year-old back-up goalie last night, resting our 26-year-old starting goalie while our 18-year-old blue-chip goalie prospect was throwing haymakers in the Soo.

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Why are some people saying sit Cheechoo instead of Shannon. Id like to hear the rational here because there is ONE player on that team without a point and that's Shannon. Cheechoo is playing head and shoulders better than Shannon as well.

So I'll allow people to explain their view on that because Shannon will NEVER be the player Cheechoo is/was/will be even if he struggles.

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N4L wrote:Why are some people saying sit Cheechoo instead of Shannon. Id like to hear the rational here because there is ONE player on that team without a point and that's Shannon. Cheechoo is playing head and shoulders better than Shannon as well.

So I'll allow people to explain their view on that because Shannon will NEVER be the player Cheechoo is/was/will be even if he struggles.


Because Shannon is a faster, younger and at the moment, a more confident player.

While Cheechoo has been average at best, and seems to be taking a little longer to adjust to Ottawa.

I don't think sitting Cheechoo will benefit him as a player but getting Donovan back into the line-up seems to be a no brainer and sadly Cheechoo has the least amount of chemistry with the team right now. (With the exception of Kovalev)

Shannon may not have a point yet but he also has played 3 less games than Cheechoo and hasn't seen as much "Spezza" time as Cheechoo has.

Combine that with the injury recovery and all of a sudden it becomes pretty clear why Shannon doesn't have a point.

Let’s tone down the Cheechoo love a bit, atleast until he does something to warrant it besides scoring 56 goals 4 seasons ago.

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Im assuming you havnt watched a Sens game yet because you said Shannon is playing with more confidence then Cheechoo. If there is a more tentitive, softer, and less invovled player in Ottawa's lineup then Shannon, no clue who it is. He's been awful all year. Like PKC said it may be because of the concussion but that's the way it is.

Also, I would be willing to bet the amount of time Shannon has had on the PP over Cheechoo is close to 100%. So that's a BS arguement that Cheechoo plays with Spezza and Michalek.

As for Chemistry, the second Cheechoo was put on that top line it took off whether he has scored a goal or not. Shannon gets put on the 4th line and it becomes 100% ineffective. So saying Cheechoo has the least amount of chemistry with anyone right now is also BS.

It's not love for Cheechoo, it's a simple matter of who is a better player, who's been playing better, and who has been more productive. Every one of those questions, the answer is Cheechoo.



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