Sens return Cowen to the Spokane Chiefs

CCgotITcovered wrote:
You really believe that?

I think so, yeah. The odd part of the equation is that Cowen was still around at that point and there was a glimmer of hope, so the only other logical thing would be that Murray was trying to trade up to get Cowen there and to also try to make sure the Leafs didn't complete a Schenn-Cowen duo. But...from what I've seen from Kadri so far, I can absolutely start to believe that the Sens wanted him pretty badly to complete what would have become a crazy 1-2 punch with Spezza.

The wildcard was Dallas, what were they going to take? Because they need both a number one D-man and a top 6 playmaker. I thought they might take MPS off the board, but they went with Glennie and all of a sudden I think Murray and co. couldn't really make a mistake. At that point my heart was telling me Cowen but my hockey excitement button had been pressed, so either Cowen or MPS would have fully satisfied me.

marakh wrote:
Tim Murray said it himself on Team 1200 the day after the draft, not to believe the rumours and the TSN video about the Sens wanting Kadri. The way he said it, it was more than obvious they were ecstatic to get Cowen over Kadri.

So, they were trying to move up to get Cowen in other words?

SpezDispenser wrote:

CCgotITcovered wrote:
You really believe that?

I think so, yeah. The odd part of the equation is that Cowen was still around at that point and there was a glimmer of hope, so the only other logical thing would be that Murray was trying to trade up to get Cowen there and to also try to make sure the Leafs didn't complete a Schenn-Cowen duo. But...from what I've seen from Kadri so far, I can absolutely start to believe that the Sens wanted him pretty badly to complete what would have become a crazy 1-2 punch with Spezza.

The wildcard was Dallas, what were they going to take? Because they need both a number one D-man and a top 6 playmaker. I thought they might take MPS off the board, but they went with Glennie and all of a sudden I think Murray and co. couldn't really make a mistake. At that point my heart was telling me Cowen but my hockey excitement button had been pressed, so either Cowen or MPS would have fully satisfied me.

The Glennie choice was an odd one for me. But he could end up being a really solid forward.

SpezDispenser wrote:

CCgotITcovered wrote:
You really believe that?

I think so, yeah. The odd part of the equation is that Cowen was still around at that point and there was a glimmer of hope, so the only other logical thing would be that Murray was trying to trade up to get Cowen there and to also try to make sure the Leafs didn't complete a Schenn-Cowen duo.

God Lord that would have been frightening. That would suck the life out of opposition forwards. Granted, their ability to sign Komisarek makes the Kadri pick more defendable (as has his play).

asq2 wrote:The Glennie choice was an odd one for me. But he could end up being a really solid forward.

I thought it was wrong at the time to be honest and it really hasn't changed in my eyes. Glennie appears to have excellent tools, but how can you possibly resist Cowen and redefining your D? I guess Benn and Neal with Glennie was too hard to pass up?

I don't know guys: it still seems like Murray never would have answered "yes" to a direct question like that. What in his history of misdirection would possibly give that impression? Since when does he tell the truth when he knows it might hurt him?

SpezDispenser wrote:

CCgotITcovered wrote:
You really believe that?

I think so, yeah. The odd part of the equation is that Cowen was still around at that point and there was a glimmer of hope, so the only other logical thing would be that Murray was trying to trade up to get Cowen there and to also try to make sure the Leafs didn't complete a Schenn-Cowen duo. But...from what I've seen from Kadri so far, I can absolutely start to believe that the Sens wanted him pretty badly to complete what would have become a crazy 1-2 punch with Spezza.

The wildcard was Dallas, what were they going to take? Because they need both a number one D-man and a top 6 playmaker. I thought they might take MPS off the board, but they went with Glennie and all of a sudden I think Murray and co. couldn't really make a mistake. At that point my heart was telling me Cowen but my hockey excitement button had been pressed, so either Cowen or MPS would have fully satisfied me.

He hasn't done anything special. Did you watch the games? He played good for like 5 minutes, and obviously that's the only thing you see on highlights

asq2 wrote:

marakh wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

marakh wrote:
Murray would have taken MPS I htink.

EDIT: Based on the comment "We take a forward unless a special player is still available"

I think he wanted Kadri pretty badly. At first I didn't, but I'm definitely starting to believe it. Once the dust settled and Kadri was gone, he had the option of MPS or 'that special player that we really shouldn't be getting at 9."

Tim Murray said it himself on Team 1200 the day after the draft, not to believe the rumours and the TSN video about the Sens wanting Kadri. The way he said it, it was more than obvious they were ecstatic to get Cowen over Kadri.

Hardly surprising. You're not supposed to get a prospect of Cowen's calibre at the 9th slot.

That said, I do believe there was strong interest in Kadri.

I always wondered about Murray's body language on that infamous draft day clip involving him and Brian Burke.

When burke asked if he wanted Kadri, Murray responded a little too quickly and was pretty damned stiff. Who knows if he was just shocked that Burke wanted his player, or if he was lying so that Burke didn't know who he was really after.

Either way, im excited to have Cowen in the system. Murray just better draft a forward with his next first rounder.

CCgotITcovered wrote:I don't know guys: it still seems like Murray never would have answered "yes" to a direct question like that. What in his history of misdirection would possibly give that impression? Since when does he tell the truth when he knows it might hurt him?

I replied to an earlier post, but i agree completely. I think Murray's awkward nature is a bit of a poker face, he sure doesn't act that way when he's not under the gun.

His body language and stuttering changes dramatically based on the questions he's asked by the media.

CCgotITcovered wrote:I don't know guys: it still seems like Murray never would have answered "yes" to a direct question like that. What in his history of misdirection would possibly give that impression? Since when does he tell the truth when he knows it might hurt him?

I think this is the best reason for deciding to go with Tim Murray's post-draft take on it.

Cowen has a goal and an assist - named game's 3rd star.

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