Absolute best case scenario for the Sens

CCgotITcovered wrote:Clearly he's not when everyone watching thought he was faking.

To be honest, I thought he dislocated his shoulder. The way he was lying I could not see one of his arms at all.

marakh wrote:Neil Checks Heatley at centre ice, Heatley loses the puck, Spezza takes it, passes to Michalek who scores the GWG. We are in Game 7 of the SCF in OT btw.

Oh man... talk about a dream matchup! Sens and Sharks in the SCF... Game 7... OT... epic.

I think it just moved a bit picturing that glory.

marakh wrote:Neil Checks Heatley at centre ice, Heatley loses the puck, Spezza takes it, passes to Michalek who scores the GWG. We are in Game 7 of the SCF in OT btw.

Michalek - Spezza - Neil?

It would be so much sweeter if Spezza or Alfie pasted him IMO.

asq2 wrote:

marakh wrote:Neil Checks Heatley at centre ice, Heatley loses the puck, Spezza takes it, passes to Michalek who scores the GWG. We are in Game 7 of the SCF in OT btw.

Michalek - Spezza - Neil?

It would be so much sweeter if Spezza or Alfie pasted him IMO.

Yep, NEil just going out of the penalty box finds the douche on his way

SeawaySensFan wrote:Fisher has a rebound season and gets back to his regular 50+ point seasons and racks up 25+ goals.

This will be seen as "hate" or whatever but this statement illustrates how we tend to inflate Fishers accomplishments. He is a mythical figure in Ottawa in the truest sense.

Here's the deal. Mike Fisher has never put up 50 pts. in the NHL. Fire at will...

Luckily, Regin appears to be a pretty special player. He knows where the puck will be before it gets there and it appears he knows where Fisher will be before Fisher knows where he will be. This combo looks to have some magic.

In three consecutive seasons, he put up 44, 48, and 47 points. He hasn't hit 50 yet, for sure, but I'd bet he does this year. If the chemistry that we've seen (that is, that you've all seen and I've read about...stupid Korea) exists and continues to flourish, there's a great chance that Fisher has the breakout year that he deserves.

spader wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:Fisher has a rebound season and gets back to his regular 50+ point seasons and racks up 25+ goals.

This will be seen as "hate" or whatever but this statement illustrates how we tend to inflate Fishers accomplishments. He is a mythical figure in Ottawa in the truest sense.

Here's the deal. Mike Fisher has never put up 50 pts. in the NHL. Fire at will...

Luckily, Regin appears to be a pretty special player. He knows where the puck will be before it gets there and it appears he knows where Fisher will be before Fisher knows where he will be. This combo looks to have some magic.

In three consecutive seasons, he put up 44, 48, and 47 points. He hasn't hit 50 yet, for sure, but I'd bet he does this year. If the chemistry that we've seen (that is, that you've all seen and I've read about...stupid Korea) exists and continues to flourish, there's a great chance that Fisher has the breakout year that he deserves.

I agree. Also to your point SSF. You're absolutely right. I grossly over exagerated Fisher's production by about 4 or 5 points a season. I stand corrected.

What I should have said was Fisher will get back to his 46.3333333333 points per season average and exceed it by getting past the 50 point mark for the first time and beyond. Too be even more clear perhaps I should have said he will get back to his 0.6465 points per game average
for 53 points in a healthy 82 game season (Remember this is best case scenario). Being that he would be paired with Regin who seems to have gotten him going and this is a best case scenario he could get even more than that.

spader wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:Fisher has a rebound season and gets back to his regular 50+ point seasons and racks up 25+ goals.

This will be seen as "hate" or whatever but this statement illustrates how we tend to inflate Fishers accomplishments. He is a mythical figure in Ottawa in the truest sense.

Here's the deal. Mike Fisher has never put up 50 pts. in the NHL. Fire at will...

Luckily, Regin appears to be a pretty special player. He knows where the puck will be before it gets there and it appears he knows where Fisher will be before Fisher knows where he will be. This combo looks to have some magic.

In three consecutive seasons, he put up 44, 48, and 47 points. He hasn't hit 50 yet, for sure, but I'd bet he does this year. If the chemistry that we've seen (that is, that you've all seen and I've read about...stupid Korea) exists and continues to flourish, there's a great chance that Fisher has the breakout year that he deserves.

Also, his 48 points came in that mythic '05-'06 campaign in 68 games. Factor his numbers over a full 82-game season and he'd have close to 60.

asq2 wrote:

marakh wrote:Neil Checks Heatley at centre ice, Heatley loses the puck, Spezza takes it, passes to Michalek who scores the GWG. We are in Game 7 of the SCF in OT btw.

Michalek - Spezza - Neil?

It would be so much sweeter if Spezza or Alfie pasted him IMO.

that is a more realistic scenario as well.

asq2 wrote:Also, his 48 points came in that mythic '05-'06 campaign in 68 games. Factor his numbers over a full 82-game season and he'd have close to 60.

Stop it guys, please. I take it all back. I didn't mean what I said about Mike never getting 50 points.

He may never win the Hart Trophy but he will always be my own personal Heart Trophy winner.

SeawaySensFan wrote:

asq2 wrote:Also, his 48 points came in that mythic '05-'06 campaign in 68 games. Factor his numbers over a full 82-game season and he'd have close to 60.

Stop it guys, please. I take it all back. I didn't mean what I said about Mike never getting 50 points.

He may never win the Hart Trophy but he will always be my own personal Heart Trophy winner.

Fisher will always have room for both you and Carrie in his heart as well, unless you don't like to share

SeawaySensFan wrote:

asq2 wrote:Also, his 48 points came in that mythic '05-'06 campaign in 68 games. Factor his numbers over a full 82-game season and he'd have close to 60.

Stop it guys, please. I take it all back. I didn't mean what I said about Mike never getting 50 points.

He may never win the Hart Trophy but he will always be my own personal Heart Trophy winner.

Now you're getting it.

SeawaySensFan wrote:

asq2 wrote:Also, his 48 points came in that mythic '05-'06 campaign in 68 games. Factor his numbers over a full 82-game season and he'd have close to 60.

Stop it guys, please. I take it all back. I didn't mean what I said about Mike never getting 50 points.

He may never win the Hart Trophy but he will always be my own personal Heart Trophy winner.

Great stuff. Seriously though SSF you were making something out of nothing. A 46 point average per season on an average of ~71 games per season is inflating his numbers when you say 50+ points but it's not a major exajeration. I never said he was a fantastic player or some mythic figure either.

You clearly believe that Fisher's ceiling is below 50 points unless Regin continues to perform magic tricks and makes Fisher perform far better than expected. That is your oppinion.

I personally think that his 48 point season was an indication of his potential to crack 50 points and be a regular 25 plus goal scorer.

I don't think he's the greatest player to ever put on a Sens Jersey and he is without faults. I don't think his contract is by far the best the Sens ever signed and there's no way we should ever consider moving him. As funny as your sarcasm is at times it's bordering on insulting at times when discussing Fisher.

Cap'n Clutch wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:

asq2 wrote:Also, his 48 points came in that mythic '05-'06 campaign in 68 games. Factor his numbers over a full 82-game season and he'd have close to 60.

Stop it guys, please. I take it all back. I didn't mean what I said about Mike never getting 50 points.

He may never win the Hart Trophy but he will always be my own personal Heart Trophy winner.

Great stuff. Seriously though SSF you were making something out of nothing. A 46 point average per season on an average of ~71 games per season is inflating his numbers when you say 50+ points but it's not a major exajeration. I never said he was a fantastic player or some mythic figure either.

You clearly believe that Fisher's ceiling is below 50 points unless Regin continues to perform magic tricks and makes Fisher perform far better than expected. That is your oppinion.

I personally think that his 48 point season was an indication of his potential to crack 50 points and be a regular 25 plus goal scorer.

I don't think he's the greatest player to ever put on a Sens Jersey and he is without faults. I don't think his contract is by far the best the Sens ever signed and there's no way we should ever consider moving him. As funny as your sarcasm is at times it's bordering on insulting at times when discussing Fisher.

I drank the Kool-Aid too at that time. I recall predicting that he would hit 30, then 35 and maybe stay in that range. I don't think I'm being insulting so much, just realistic.

Besides, my reaction to your statement wasn't so much directed at you as it was to Senators fans, in general.

SeawaySensFan wrote:
Stop it guys, please. I take it all back. I didn't mean what I said about Mike never getting 50 points.

He may never win the Hart Trophy but he will always be my own personal Heart Trophy winner.

SeawaySensFan wrote:

Cap'n Clutch wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:

asq2 wrote:Also, his 48 points came in that mythic '05-'06 campaign in 68 games. Factor his numbers over a full 82-game season and he'd have close to 60.

Stop it guys, please. I take it all back. I didn't mean what I said about Mike never getting 50 points.

He may never win the Hart Trophy but he will always be my own personal Heart Trophy winner.

Great stuff. Seriously though SSF you were making something out of nothing. A 46 point average per season on an average of ~71 games per season is inflating his numbers when you say 50+ points but it's not a major exajeration. I never said he was a fantastic player or some mythic figure either.

You clearly believe that Fisher's ceiling is below 50 points unless Regin continues to perform magic tricks and makes Fisher perform far better than expected. That is your oppinion.

I personally think that his 48 point season was an indication of his potential to crack 50 points and be a regular 25 plus goal scorer.

I don't think he's the greatest player to ever put on a Sens Jersey and he is without faults. I don't think his contract is by far the best the Sens ever signed and there's no way we should ever consider moving him. As funny as your sarcasm is at times it's bordering on insulting at times when discussing Fisher.

I drank the Kool-Aid too at that time. I recall predicting that he would hit 30, then 35 and maybe stay in that range. I don't think I'm being insulting so much, just realistic.

Besides, my reaction to your statement wasn't so much directed at you as it was to Senators fans, in general.

I thought he could be a 60 point guy with potential to hit 30 goals for sure (I have dropped my view to a potential of 50ish points and 25ish goals) but he's only one season removed from a 47 point season and before that a 48 point season. Most people agree that his 79 game and 47 point season was riddled with injuries that he just played through. Sure it's excuses but the revolving door coaching staff didn't help anyone. If you're going to assume Fisher is no better than a 45ish point guy with 20ish goals then does that mean Alfie and Spezza are also destined for 70ish point season this year as well? I'm willing to give him some rope here. If he can't perform this season, under Clouston, playing the Wing with Regin and Foligno or playing as part of the FFS line then I'll jump on your band wagon. I figured I was being realistic when I said best case scenario for Fisher was a 50+ point season and 25+ goals considering his average over 3 seasons was 22ish goals and 46ish points.

I'm not trying to start any kind of a bandwagon. The best case scenario for me would be to be wrong.

SeawaySensFan wrote:I'm not trying to start any kind of a bandwagon. The best case scenario for me would be to be wrong.

Well if you do and Fisher proves you right I'll be your first passenger.