Dany Heatley quick hits

cas wrote:Gagne-Spezza-Alfie?

I like it :___:

what's there not to like? we'd be back to having one of the best line in the NHL... minus the 2 million and a selfish sc**bag.

Neely4Life wrote:We'll see, but I cant see The Sens scoring a lot of goals with Vermette now gone and Heatley on the way out. That's 75 goals from 2006/07. Who have we brought in to replace those 2? Leclaire thus far... ouch.

If Heatley is in Ottawa after July 1, Ottawa's season is shot. Over before it begins.

Since 2006/07? We brought in Foligno and Shannon and (maybe) Regin, while losing Heatley, Vermette and Neil.

Obviously our salvation is not going to come from the forward ranks, but with a more mobile defense I can see Foligno and Shannon getting close to 20 apiece, and Regin should get 15. That's still 25-30 goals short, but add another 5-10 for whoever moves up to the top line. For example, if Fisher plays wing on the top line I expect him to get 25-30 goals. If it's Foligno, I expect 25. and so on. Obviously if we get a top-six forward (for example, Howie suggests poicking up Lang -- why not) then we will improve on the second or third line (not having to move anyone up).

We're still probably 20-25 goals short, but with better goaltending and better team defense that can be overcome.

We'll be an average team, but I believe making the playoffs is not too much of a stretch. Of course once we get there, we're not going to get very far, but still, good experience for the new kids.

Preeeeeeetty optimistic.

wprager wrote:

Neely4Life wrote:We'll see, but I cant see The Sens scoring a lot of goals with Vermette now gone and Heatley on the way out. That's 75 goals from 2006/07. Who have we brought in to replace those 2? Leclaire thus far... ouch.

If Heatley is in Ottawa after July 1, Ottawa's season is shot. Over before it begins.

Since 2006/07? We brought in Foligno and Shannon and (maybe) Regin, while losing Heatley, Vermette and Neil.

Obviously our salvation is not going to come from the forward ranks, but with a more mobile defense I can see Foligno and Shannon getting close to 20 apiece, and Regin should get 15. That's still 25-30 goals short, but add another 5-10 for whoever moves up to the top line. For example, if Fisher plays wing on the top line I expect him to get 25-30 goals. If it's Foligno, I expect 25. and so on. Obviously if we get a top-six forward (for example, Howie suggests poicking up Lang -- why not) then we will improve on the second or third line (not having to move anyone up).

We're still probably 20-25 goals short, but with better goaltending and better team defense that can be overcome.

We'll be an average team, but I believe making the playoffs is not too much of a stretch. Of course once we get there, we're not going to get very far, but still, good experience for the new kids.

Lang could be a good pick-up, i imagine at his age he'd warrant the same 2.6 mill that jason smith had.

Lang may never play again. How about Marleau and Clowe for Heatley and another contract. Gives us flexibility with the cap next year.

Sens are going to have to scrap by the next year or two. Might be a good time to start to plug in a lot of the younger guys. Regin, Zubov, Smith, so on... See what they have...

here's a little update on one of my favourite prospect Andre Petersson. no site seams to have much updated for the 2008-09 season but i managed to dig this up

HV71 J20	SuperElit	36	24	31	55	28
	HV71	Elitserien	10	0	1	1	0
	HV71	[url=http://www.eliteprospects.com/league.php?leagueid=Champions HL&season=2008][/url] Champions HL	1	0	0	0	0
	Team Sweden U20	WJC-20	6	3	3	6	2
	Team Sweden U20 (all)	International	11	5	3	8	4

not much when he jumped on the SEL(elitserien) but made an improvement in the juniors.

this was last year.

2007-2008	HV71 J18	[url=http://www.eliteprospects.com/league.php?leagueid=J18 Elit&season=2007][/url] J18 Elit	2	3	4	7	4
	HV71 J18	[url=http://www.eliteprospects.com/league.php?leagueid=J18 Allsvenskan&season=2007][/url] J18 Allsvenskan	1	1	1	2	0
	HV71 J20	SuperElit	36	16	22	38	34
	Team Sweden U18	WJC-18	6	4	4	8	2
	Team Sweden U18 (all)	International	14	7	6	13	6

Yeah, he was solid at the WJC but his defensive game is really lacking and is a little small. Be a while before he is in the NHL.

wprager wrote:

Neely4Life wrote:We'll see, but I cant see The Sens scoring a lot of goals with Vermette now gone and Heatley on the way out. That's 75 goals from 2006/07. Who have we brought in to replace those 2? Leclaire thus far... ouch.

If Heatley is in Ottawa after July 1, Ottawa's season is shot. Over before it begins.

Since 2006/07? We brought in Foligno and Shannon and (maybe) Regin, while losing Heatley, Vermette and Neil.

Obviously our salvation is not going to come from the forward ranks, but with a more mobile defense I can see Foligno and Shannon getting close to 20 apiece, and Regin should get 15. That's still 25-30 goals short, but add another 5-10 for whoever moves up to the top line. For example, if Fisher plays wing on the top line I expect him to get 25-30 goals. If it's Foligno, I expect 25. and so on. Obviously if we get a top-six forward (for example, Howie suggests poicking up Lang -- why not) then we will improve on the second or third line (not having to move anyone up).

We're still probably 20-25 goals short, but with better goaltending and better team defense that can be overcome.

We'll be an average team, but I believe making the playoffs is not too much of a stretch. Of course once we get there, we're not going to get very far, but still, good experience for the new kids.

Given how mentally fragile this team is and with basically 0 confidence, If they start the the first 20 games of next season with more losses than wins, and without Dany Heatley, the season is likely over.
Unless we magically land Cammaleri and trade Heatley for a 30 goal scorer.

The Sens wont earn a playoff spot in October and November, but they may very well lose it. Hopefully there is a big road trip to start the season so they can bond a bit... if there is a big home stand it could be nasty.

It's cool to be optimistic but at this point I would be good money on The Sens missing out on the payoffs. I dont see how they make it right now.

Alot of the mentally fragile players are gone or going. `

Neely4Life wrote:The Sens wont earn a playoff spot in October and November, but they may very well lose it. Hopefully there is a big road trip to start the season so they can bond a bit... if there is a big home stand it could be nasty.

It's cool to be optimistic but at this point I would be good money on The Sens missing out on the payoffs. I dont see how they make it right now.

I will reserve judgement until the 2nd week of July. The Top 6 forwards could be vastly different in two weeks.

Neely4Life wrote:Yeah, he was solid at the WJC but his defensive game is really lacking and is a little small. Be a while before he is in the NHL.

yeah, i don't actually expect to see him in the NHL til he's 21 maybe 22. but his game is improving and he's got tremendous offencive habilities.

RobbyJ wrote:

Neely4Life wrote:The Sens wont earn a playoff spot in October and November, but they may very well lose it. Hopefully there is a big road trip to start the season so they can bond a bit... if there is a big home stand it could be nasty.

It's cool to be optimistic but at this point I would be good money on The Sens missing out on the payoffs. I dont see how they make it right now.

I will reserve judgement until the 2nd week of July. The Top 6 forwards could be vastly different in two weeks.

Not if Heatley is here. Who is going to sign coming into The Ottawa Senators mess? They would be nuts.

RobbyJ wrote:

Neely4Life wrote:The Sens wont earn a playoff spot in October and November, but they may very well lose it. Hopefully there is a big road trip to start the season so they can bond a bit... if there is a big home stand it could be nasty.

It's cool to be optimistic but at this point I would be good money on The Sens missing out on the payoffs. I dont see how they make it right now.

I will reserve judgement until the 2nd week of July. The Top 6 forwards could be vastly different in two weeks.

yeah murray was recently quoted as wating a top6 foward thru FA or trades. trades being an interesting senario.

Flo The Action wrote:

Neely4Life wrote:Yeah, he was solid at the WJC but his defensive game is really lacking and is a little small. Be a while before he is in the NHL.

yeah, i don't actually expect to see him in the NHL til he's 21 maybe 22. but his game is improving and he's got tremendous offencive habilities.

At least.

Neely4Life wrote:

RobbyJ wrote:

Neely4Life wrote:The Sens wont earn a playoff spot in October and November, but they may very well lose it. Hopefully there is a big road trip to start the season so they can bond a bit... if there is a big home stand it could be nasty.

It's cool to be optimistic but at this point I would be good money on The Sens missing out on the payoffs. I dont see how they make it right now.

I will reserve judgement until the 2nd week of July. The Top 6 forwards could be vastly different in two weeks.

Not if Heatley is here. Who is going to sign coming into The Ottawa Senators mess? They would be nuts.

still a few days left before july 1st.

also a trade may happen after when several teams realise that they can't land one of the top free agents. then it's trade time. i could see some team going for heatley while providing money going to ottawa to repay the bonus. it just happened in one of the big trades in the NBA, so why not here.