Bryan Murray Vs Dany Heatley: Who Blinks First?

davetherave wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:

shabbs wrote:Weren't the rumours all about Wilson not letting Michalek be a part of ANY deal?

I've said this before, but it bears repeated:

If Wilson isn't willing to include at least one of Michalek or Clowe (I'm assuming Pavelski and Setoguchi are off limits), then there simply is no deal to be had with SJ. You have to give some to get some, and it's time for Wilson to step up if he wants to get anything done. He is barking up the wrong tree if he thinks we're going to give Heatley away for a handful of salary dumps.

Faced with the alternatives of possibly endangering the team's prospects for this season, or for-sure damaging the team's long-term outlook, I have no doubts about what direction BM will go. I'm guessing he would rather roll the dice, maintain Heatley, and take his chances in terms of whether the team will or will not perform and so cost him his job; rather than lose his job for sure because he gave Heatley away for nothing / burdens. Seems like a no-brainer to me.

Rooney, I'm not sure Doug Wilson was ever a serious trading partner in the 'HeatleyStakes'.

The media loves to pump these rumours up, but who knows what discussions were had, and at what level?

The Sharks have done some housecleaning (Roenick, Plihal, Goc, Grier, Erhoff, Lukowich--none of them key assets) and in doing so, sent a message to their current roster that jobs are to be earned.

They have no cap room now to do a deal, and while DH would be a definite addition to the offense, Wilson may simply open with the cards he has.

Taking a glance at CapGeek, in fact, there really isn't any contending team that has the room to take on DH's contract.

(Not to say Mad Mike Gillis might not do something totally off the wall, which he has been known to do...)

So both sides in the Murray-Heatley Showdown sit tight, and do up their chin straps.

Ya gotta wonder though...how DH showing up at camp--presuming he doesn't get moved--will sit with his soon-to-be ex-teammates...and how that affects the club's chemistry.

rooneypoo wrote:

davetherave wrote:
The Sharks have done some housecleaning (Roenick, Plihal, Goc, Grier, Erhoff, Lukowich--none of them key assets) and in doing so, sent a message to their current roster that jobs are to be earned.

They have no cap room now to do a deal, and while DH would be a definite addition to the offense, Wilson may simply open with the cards he has.

Taking a glance at CapGeek, in fact, there really isn't any contending team that has the room to take on DH's contract.

(Not to say Mad Mike Gillis might not do something totally off the wall, which he has been known to do...)

So both sides in the Murray-Heatley Showdown sit tight, and do up their chin straps.

Ya gotta wonder though...how DH showing up at camp--presuming he doesn't get moved--will sit with his soon-to-be ex-teammates...and how that affects the club's chemistry.

This is only true if you assume the team we're trading with isn't sending us about equal salary back in return for Heatley.

Which I don't buy for a second.

Any team under the cap by $2 mil or more is in a position to accommodate Heatley, in either a dollars-for-dollars deal, or close to thereabouts. That is a fact, plain and simple.

davetherave wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:

davetherave wrote:
The Sharks have done some housecleaning (Roenick, Plihal, Goc, Grier, Erhoff, Lukowich--none of them key assets) and in doing so, sent a message to their current roster that jobs are to be earned.

They have no cap room now to do a deal, and while DH would be a definite addition to the offense, Wilson may simply open with the cards he has.

Taking a glance at CapGeek, in fact, there really isn't any contending team that has the room to take on DH's contract.

(Not to say Mad Mike Gillis might not do something totally off the wall, which he has been known to do...)

So both sides in the Murray-Heatley Showdown sit tight, and do up their chin straps.

Ya gotta wonder though...how DH showing up at camp--presuming he doesn't get moved--will sit with his soon-to-be ex-teammates...and how that affects the club's chemistry.

This is only true if you assume the team we're trading with isn't sending us about equal salary back in return for Heatley.

Which I don't buy for a second.

Any team under the cap by $2 mil or more is in a position to accommodate Heatley, in either a dollars-for-dollars deal, or close to thereabouts. That is a fact, plain and simple.

Doctor Rooney, if it was that 'plain and simple', a deal would already be done, yes?

davetherave wrote:
Doctor Rooney, if it was that 'plain and simple', a deal would already be done, yes?

TheAvatar wrote:Can we trade him to hell for 3 wishes?

davetherave wrote:MOI, if you assume BM doesn't want DH going to an Eastern team, who, apart from San Jose (who don't seem serious) and LA (who have said they're not interested), makes sense as a logical and credible destination?

I see two...Vancouver and Anaheim.

Gillis likes dramatic moves...and he's a BIG spender. He's loaded with d-men, and has a few extra forwards. You know he wants to take the Nucks to the next level, and he won't get there with the crew he has now.

Bob Murray has rebuilt the Ducks into a dangerous team. He has tradeable assets and cap space.

Whatty'all think?

hemlock wrote:Heatley + crapola for Bieksa, Burrows and Hodgson. K thanks.

davetherave wrote:

hemlock wrote:Heatley + crapola for Bieksa, Burrows and Hodgson. K thanks.

Hemmy> Hypothetical: Gillis offers BM Bieksa and Burrows for Heatley. Right now. Do you do that deal?

SpezDispenser wrote:

davetherave wrote:MOI, if you assume BM doesn't want DH going to an Eastern team, who, apart from San Jose (who don't seem serious) and LA (who have said they're not interested), makes sense as a logical and credible destination?

I see two...Vancouver and Anaheim.

Gillis likes dramatic moves...and he's a BIG spender. He's loaded with d-men, and has a few extra forwards. You know he wants to take the Nucks to the next level, and he won't get there with the crew he has now.

Bob Murray has rebuilt the Ducks into a dangerous team. He has tradeable assets and cap space.

Whatty'all think?

I agree. Bieksa and Kesler has to be close right now. Sure, they lose two pieces, but gain an intimidating partner for the Sedins.

I see Minny in here as well. I have no idea why they don't do what it takes to get Heatley. With their new coaching staff, new philosophy and emphasis on a faster, offensive game - Heatley should be their target. Plus they have the pieces and they have the cap space.