Bryan Murray Vs Dany Heatley: Who Blinks First?

SensFan71 wrote:

TeamRenzo wrote:

Hockeyhero22000 wrote:i think any hopes of a trade with the kings are now dead since they got ryan smyth from the avs

Who did the Avs get back? Maybe we could ship Heatley to them

Kyle Quincey, Tom Preissing, and a 5th round pick. LA really fleeced Colorado on that one.

I'm not too sure about that. They both got rid of two contracts they didn't want and were pretty much unmovable (Smyth and Preissing). Plus Colorado got Quincey who had a really good year with LA.

Colorado gets rid of Smyth's awful contract, and allows them the cap room to maintain their young core in the future, plus gives them more flexibility for other moves if needed.

LA moves some of their defence, possibly allowing them to re-sign JJ, and likely bring up some of their young defenceman (Hickey/Tuebert).

TeamRenzo wrote:

Hockeyhero22000 wrote:i think any hopes of a trade with the kings are now dead since they got ryan smyth from the avs

Who did the Avs get back? Maybe we could ship Heatley to them

it does give the Avs almost 11 M in cap space but they still need 4 forwards

Dash wrote:

SensFan71 wrote:

TeamRenzo wrote:

Hockeyhero22000 wrote:i think any hopes of a trade with the kings are now dead since they got ryan smyth from the avs

Who did the Avs get back? Maybe we could ship Heatley to them

Kyle Quincey, Tom Preissing, and a 5th round pick. LA really fleeced Colorado on that one.

I'm not too sure about that. They both got rid of two contracts they didn't want and were pretty much unmovable (Smyth and Preissing). Plus Colorado got Quincey who had a really good year with LA.

Colorado gets rid of Smyth's awful contract, and allows them the cap room to maintain their young core in the future, plus gives them more flexibility for other moves if needed.

LA moves some of their defence, possibly allowing them to re-sign JJ, and likely bring up some of their young defenceman (Hickey/Tuebert).

I suppose you could argue both sides of that trade for awhile, I hear some rumblings about JJ to Pittsburgh, and not from Ek either, I heard this a couple of days ago that he might want to go to Pittsburgh (who wouldn't mind you), now talking about that idiot of a rumour monger named Ek, he is predicting some huge shakeup for SJ and Toronto via trade on Monday, what an a$$hat.

The Avs very well might sign Duchene and play him this season - and they'll obviously re-sign Sakic if he decides to return. There's talk they will sign Tanguay. What if they sign Sundin as well lol?

I think Duchene could use another year in Junior.

He'd be alright in the NHL - he's as good as Stamkos or better. If Sakic plays, I think they will get Duchene up there playing with him, like Crosby and Mario.

Obviously, he'd be more effective in Brampton and they need him more than Colorado does, but if Colorado says so, that's where he'll be.

Brampton's going to be depleted next season - no Hodgson, no Grachev, no McCollum, likely no Kileen, as well as guys like Peluso, Day, and all the O.A's. Add Duche to that mix and you got a rebuild, but hard to do when you traded away your picks for a playoff push.

So with all the recent developments, what do you all think will happen with Heatley in the next 60 days?

Dash wrote:He'd be alright in the NHL - he's as good as Stamkos or better. If Sakic plays, I think they will get Duchene up there playing with him, like Crosby and Mario.

Obviously, he'd be more effective in Brampton and they need him more than Colorado does, but if Colorado says so, that's where he'll be.

Brampton's going to be depleted next season - no Hodgson, no Grachev, no McCollum, likely no Kileen, as well as guys like Peluso, Day, and all the O.A's. Add Duche to that mix and you got a rebuild, but hard to do when you traded away your picks for a playoff push.

Hmmm. I'm not sure.

Could Heatley become a Shark?

Some in San Jose seem to think so...more here:
http://www.gmhockey.com/san-jose-jaws-f35/what-s-next-for-the-sharks-t2176-45.htm#78873

davetherave wrote:Could Heatley become a Shark?

Some in San Jose seem to think so...more here:
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http://www.gmhockey.com/san-jose-jaws-f35/what-s-next-for-the-sharks-t2176-45.htm#78873[/quote[/url]]

Any updates

latest info from Sens Chirp, he is the only source I read anything about Heatley

Few different rumours seem to be making the rounds today when it comes to potential suitors for the disgruntled winger. The Oilers continue to be the most aggressive team in their pursuit and are apparently being joined by the San Jose Sharks and Colorado Avalanche. The Avs recently sent a big contract in Ryan Smyth packing and could be gearing up for a run at Heatley.

The good news for Senators fans and GM Bryan Murray is that the list seems to be growing rather than dwindling away.

I read a rumour earlier today that indicated Heatley had contacted the Oilers and said that now that he has received his $4 mil from the Senators he would consider a trade to the Oilers. Hoping to find out more on this possibility tomorrow.

I find it a little silly that Heatley would be waiting to get the 4 million from Ottawa before accepting the deal to Edmonton.

Now that the draft is over, Colorado has even less to give and the Sharks have as little to give as they ever had. Until I see names and picks it's hard to get too enthusiastic about a potential deal.

Interesting. I'll believe it when I see it. At this point Heatley is seemingly handcuffing the Sens from making the best possible deal.

Heatley wants options? Murray's going to present Heatley with what HE feels is the best deal. He's not going to throw more on the table and cross his fingers that Heatley picks the best one.

SeawaySensFan wrote:I find it a little silly that Heatley would be waiting to get the 4 million from Ottawa before accepting the deal to Edmonton.

Now that the draft is over, Colorado has even less to give and the Sharks have as little to give as they ever had. Until I see names and picks it's hard to get too enthusiastic about a potential deal.

If it's true he was waiting for that 4 Million then the only thing that makes sense is he wanted to have one last parting shot at the Sens Organisations expense.

Cap'n Clutch wrote:Interesting. I'll believe it when I see it. At this point Heatley is seemingly handcuffing the Sens from making the best possible deal.

Heatley wants options? Murray's going to present Heatley with what HE feels is the best deal. He's not going to throw more on the table and cross his fingers that Heatley picks the best one.

are there any more concrete options out there? I know the original Edmonton deal is dead, but that is because the 4M has been paid, but does Edmonton offer more now?

Edit: I haven't heard anything from Tambellini or Murray, that is why I ask.

Dash wrote:The Avs very well might sign Duchene and play him this season - and they'll obviously re-sign Sakic if he decides to return. There's talk they will sign Tanguay. What if they sign Sundin as well lol?

read over at spector's hockey that Tanguay to the Avs is a no go, not many specifics as to why, but their beat reporter shut down that rumour right away.

Cap'n Clutch wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:I find it a little silly that Heatley would be waiting to get the 4 million from Ottawa before accepting the deal to Edmonton.

Now that the draft is over, Colorado has even less to give and the Sharks have as little to give as they ever had. Until I see names and picks it's hard to get too enthusiastic about a potential deal.

If it's true he was waiting for that 4 Million then the only thing that makes sense is he wanted to have one last parting shot at the Sens Organisations expense.

That's the only reason I can see too. I guess it wasn't enough to demand a trade after taking a nice deal bargained in good faith.

It's funny because I remember a lot of scoffing when Ottawa acquired Heatley. Many thought he would never fully recover from his injuries. So Ottawa essentially rescued him and his career and now he wants to stick it to them? WTF?

It's probably the whole superstar mentality. He probably felt Murray was trying to play hard ball or strong arm him into a deal before that July 1st deadline and this is Heatley's way of saying - I may want out but I'm still leaving on my terms and just to prove it to you now you can eat that 4 Million.