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Bryan Murray Vs Dany Heatley: Who Blinks First?

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Snuh


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[quote="SensFan71"]
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SensFan71 wrote:
jamvan wrote:The Sharks are not at all interested in Dany Heatley, that's a fact.

I suppose now Murray will have to go out and get a list, signed, by teams not interested.

For the biggest agent in the NHL, JP Barry seem spretty f'ing dumb if you ask me. "My client wants options"; here they are JP Ottawa or Edmonton (option A and Option B); Take one and go f$$$ yourself.

Have you guys heard the latest that he might go play in Switzerland?

That's a joke, right? Or is this Yashin part deux?

this is way beyond Yashin, we should be burning Heatley effigies at SBP because of all this, I see his jersey's have all be marked down to 50% off in the city.

The only reason I ask is because Yashin fled to Switzerland when he was holding out. Not to play, but to more or less, escape from Ottawa.

SensFan71


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[quote="Snuh"]
SensFan71 wrote:
Snuh wrote:
SensFan71 wrote:
jamvan wrote:The Sharks are not at all interested in Dany Heatley, that's a fact.

I suppose now Murray will have to go out and get a list, signed, by teams not interested.

For the biggest agent in the NHL, JP Barry seem spretty f'ing dumb if you ask me. "My client wants options"; here they are JP Ottawa or Edmonton (option A and Option B); Take one and go f$$$ yourself.

Have you guys heard the latest that he might go play in Switzerland?

That's a joke, right? Or is this Yashin part deux?

this is way beyond Yashin, we should be burning Heatley effigies at SBP because of all this, I see his jersey's have all be marked down to 50% off in the city.

The only reason I ask is because Yashin fled to Switzerland when he was holding out. Not to play, but to more or less, escape from Ottawa.

very interesting, I did not remember that to be honest, so there are a few more similarities then if this is the case, good catch on that one. Heatley has his escape right now in Kelowna I believe, even though he will be returning shortly for Spezz's wedding, unless that has already happened.

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jamvan wrote:The Sharks are not at all interested in Dany Heatley, that's a fact.

I suppose now Murray will have to go out and get a list, signed, by teams not interested.

For the biggest agent in the NHL, JP Barry seem spretty f'ing dumb if you ask me. "My client wants options"; here they are JP Ottawa or Edmonton (option A and Option B); Take one and go f$$$ yourself.

Have you guys heard the latest that he might go play in Switzerland?



He should go play for Germany in February.

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wprager wrote:
jamvan wrote:The Sharks are not at all interested in Dany Heatley, that's a fact.

I suppose now Murray will have to go out and get a list, signed, by teams not interested.

For the biggest agent in the NHL, JP Barry seem spretty f'ing dumb if you ask me. "My client wants options"; here they are JP Ottawa or Edmonton (option A and Option B); Take one and go f$$$ yourself.

Have you guys heard the latest that he might go play in Switzerland?

if he did, would love for one of Canada's big D-men line him up and crush him in the 2010 games. that would be partial retribution. talk about one player handcuffing a franchise.

He should go play for Germany in February.

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Officially Yashin only practiced with the team, since he could not, officially, play. From an insurance p.o.v. it was still an injury risk, but he was already suspended so there was little more they could do to him. If he had suffered an injury he would have hurt himself most of all. Ottawa would have been saddled with the loss of a valuable trade asset. Milbury would probably still have a job.

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wprager wrote:Officially Yashin only practiced with the team, since he could not, officially, play. From an insurance p.o.v. it was still an injury risk, but he was already suspended so there was little more they could do to him. If he had suffered an injury he would have hurt himself most of all. Ottawa would have been saddled with the loss of a valuable trade asset. Milbury would probably still have a job.

we need Milbury to be hired again, even if just for a couple days so we can dump that bum Heatley and get a better than expected return, right now, Smid, Cogliano and Fat Penner is probably as good as its going to get.

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wprager wrote:

He should go play for Germany in February.

If only it were possible.

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Dawg's Wife wrote:This may already have been mentioned so if it is then excuse this post. Dawg and I talked tonight and it seems there may be a good ole fashion fight brewing.

It will be positioned as Ottawa vs. Heatley, but it's really the NHL vs the NHLPA. You see there is now pressure for Ottawa to take legal action against Heatley and it doesn't sound like it's about the 4 million paid to him.

It seems that the NHL wants Ottawa to contest the wording of the contract where Heatley has the NMC. In Ottawa's (really the leagues) eyes, by asking for a trade he has made that clause null and void.

Murray asked Heatley to put the trade request in writing, and Heatley did just that, with an inserted statement that said he would provide a list of teams he wished to be traded to. He signed it and sent it over.

The problem is that according to Dawg that doesn't make it a binding contract. The only piece of paper with both sets of signatures on it is the original contract which has the NMC, but by asking to be moved the league contends that it's no longer valid. They believe that he doesn't have a right to state teams as it was him requesting the trade, and unlike some players who have a limited NTC where they can provide a list of teams, Heatley can't just say trade me but here's where.

The story gets legs when you consider his agents are now telling Danny to take the deal as the NHLPA isn't sure they will win a legal battle and a precedent will be set where any player with a NTC/NMC that asks for a trade will have it voided and the team then controlls the players location.

The NHLPA doesn't want this to go to court and as a result they want him to take the deal to Edmonton, where the NHL believes they can win and are trying to get Ottawa to push the matter.

It seems that Heatley may now accept the request to go to Edmonton, however Ottawa may be the one to say no. Further, Edmonton was told that the deal must be reworked and a better return is expected.

This is all conjecture right now as Dawg can't find anyone on either side who will confirm this. He's meeting with the upper management in the WC tomorrow and will try to get more info.

I was talking to an Edmonton fan the other day about this. It was discussed that this maybe something that the NHL may want to look into when the next CBA is being discussed. We were both under the impression that a NMC was to protect the player from being moved if a GM intiates the trade request. As we all know it was Heatley requested the trade, so Melynk is right you can't have your cake and it eat it too.

Any grievence filed will set precendences. Either money being moved as reported, goes against the current CBA or the issues around the NMC and how Heatleys camp has handled things.

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i think any hopes of a trade with the kings are now dead since they got ryan smyth from the avs

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You know what would suck? Being traded with Heatley and still having him as a teammate after all of this. I wonder who, if any, will be destined to that fate...

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beerandsens wrote:You know what would suck? Being traded with Heatley and still having him as a teammate after all of this. I wonder who, if any, will be destined to that fate...

possibly Jason Smith, but well, depending on his knee, he could just be retiring, I haven't heard anything about his status in a long time.

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Hockeyhero22000 wrote:i think any hopes of a trade with the kings are now dead since they got ryan smyth from the avs

Who did the Avs get back? Maybe we could ship Heatley to them

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TeamRenzo wrote:
Hockeyhero22000 wrote:i think any hopes of a trade with the kings are now dead since they got ryan smyth from the avs

Who did the Avs get back? Maybe we could ship Heatley to them

Kyle Quincey, Tom Preissing, and a 5th round pick. LA really fleeced Colorado on that one.

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No way he plays in Switerland next year. No chance.

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SpezDispenser wrote:No way he plays in Switerland next year. No chance.

if he doesn't accept a trade somewhere, I am still working out my unfortunate accident scenario. evil

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SensFan71 wrote:
TeamRenzo wrote:
Hockeyhero22000 wrote:i think any hopes of a trade with the kings are now dead since they got ryan smyth from the avs

Who did the Avs get back? Maybe we could ship Heatley to them

Kyle Quincey, Tom Preissing, and a 5th round pick. LA really fleeced Colorado on that one.

I'm not too sure about that. They both got rid of two contracts they didn't want and were pretty much unmovable (Smyth and Preissing). Plus Colorado got Quincey who had a really good year with LA.

Colorado gets rid of Smyth's awful contract, and allows them the cap room to maintain their young core in the future, plus gives them more flexibility for other moves if needed.

LA moves some of their defence, possibly allowing them to re-sign JJ, and likely bring up some of their young defenceman (Hickey/Tuebert).

Hockeyhero22000

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TeamRenzo wrote:
Hockeyhero22000 wrote:i think any hopes of a trade with the kings are now dead since they got ryan smyth from the avs

Who did the Avs get back? Maybe we could ship Heatley to them

it does give the Avs almost 11 M in cap space but they still need 4 forwards



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Dash wrote:
SensFan71 wrote:
TeamRenzo wrote:
Hockeyhero22000 wrote:i think any hopes of a trade with the kings are now dead since they got ryan smyth from the avs

Who did the Avs get back? Maybe we could ship Heatley to them

Kyle Quincey, Tom Preissing, and a 5th round pick. LA really fleeced Colorado on that one.

I'm not too sure about that. They both got rid of two contracts they didn't want and were pretty much unmovable (Smyth and Preissing). Plus Colorado got Quincey who had a really good year with LA.

Colorado gets rid of Smyth's awful contract, and allows them the cap room to maintain their young core in the future, plus gives them more flexibility for other moves if needed.

LA moves some of their defence, possibly allowing them to re-sign JJ, and likely bring up some of their young defenceman (Hickey/Tuebert).

I suppose you could argue both sides of that trade for awhile, I hear some rumblings about JJ to Pittsburgh, and not from Ek either, I heard this a couple of days ago that he might want to go to Pittsburgh (who wouldn't mind you), now talking about that idiot of a rumour monger named Ek, he is predicting some huge shakeup for SJ and Toronto via trade on Monday, what an a$$hat.

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