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Bryan Murray Vs Dany Heatley: Who Blinks First?

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PKC


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davetherave wrote:A few things to bear in mind....

As far as the letter from Heatley requesting the trade goes, its potential impact depends on the wording of the no-trade clause and the contract itself.

When dealing with contracts, a number of them will contain a specific paragraph saying that the Parties agree to the Terms and Conditions of the Agreement as contained therein, and that no subsequent document may be construed as altering or voiding the contract, and that only unless the Parties specifically agree to do so.

This gets very, very complicated...and can have lawyers arguing for months.

And as far as Edmonton is concerned, they are not, as far as I know, obligated to take the deal if the terms of the deal are changed.

I hope the guy just smartens up enough to realize that maybe it's best to just move along.

wprager


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PKC wrote:

This is going to set precedents of biblical proportions. Wasn't I the first one to say that by demanding a trade he violated the terms of his contract?

Nah, I'm sure it was N4L Smile

PTFlea


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wprager wrote:
PKC wrote:

This is going to set precedents of biblical proportions. Wasn't I the first one to say that by demanding a trade he violated the terms of his contract?

Nah, I'm sure it was N4L Smile

Laughing3

wprager

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As much as I'd like for something like this to come down, I think a lot of you (except for DTR) are being a little unrealistic. Saying that the NMC is void just because he requested a trade is a bit of a stretch.

However, was Heatley's conduct detrimental to the club? Undoubtedly. All they have to do is point to the Pronger trade as exhibit A, and the Oilers' offer as exhbit B. Hextall's interview can be exhibit C.

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What happens if Heatley cans his agents tomorrow and publicly apologizes?

Do things ever heal between the organization, the fans, the players and Heatley?

Just curious, because if Heatley stays, I think he fires Barry and McAlpine (and yes, I know how good they are as agents).

Snuh

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SpezDispenser wrote:What happens if Heatley cans his agents tomorrow and publicly apologizes?

Do things ever heal between the organization, the fans, the players and Heatley?

Just curious, because if Heatley stays, I think he fires Barry and McAlpine (and yes, I know how good they are as agents).

I remember having the same thoughts regarding Yashin and Mark Gandler.

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I have no idea on Sens Chirp's validity, he did break the Saprykin trade he says, that was a monster right there, but I did read this off his late night entry.

That said, the Sharks rumour from earlier is beginning to pick up some steam. Word is Dany Heatley would absolutely accept a trade to San Jose. Now its a matter of the Sharks putting together a good enough offer.

We can only freaking hope they put together a good offer and it doesn't involve Marleau and his salary, if you are going to do that, sheesh, might as well be Phaneuf for Heatley straight up.

wprager

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Any trade with the Sharks would involve the same salary (or, likely, more) coming back. They are right up against the cap with players still to sign. I believe even league-minimum won't work for them. So forget about recouping the $4M by including Smith and the like.

Maybe we can swing a 3-way trade, possibly involving Edmonton. Something involving Smith going back to Edmonton, Heatley and Auld going to San Jose (they need a backup). The rest of the pieces will have towait until I've had a cup of coffee.

SensFan71


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wprager wrote:Any trade with the Sharks would involve the same salary (or, likely, more) coming back. They are right up against the cap with players still to sign. I believe even league-minimum won't work for them. So forget about recouping the $4M by including Smith and the like.

Maybe we can swing a 3-way trade, possibly involving Edmonton. Something involving Smith going back to Edmonton, Heatley and Auld going to San Jose (they need a backup). The rest of the pieces will have towait until I've had a cup of coffee.

I am okay with Ryan Clowe's contract he just signed at 3.5. I agree the strategy of forgetting the 4M and just include more salary going back, Smith and Kelly might be the candidates there, or maybe Auld as you suggested. How about Cheechoo? Get me a cup of coffee while your at it :^^^^:

jamvan

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The Sharks are not at all interested in Dany Heatley, that's a fact.

I suppose now Murray will have to go out and get a list, signed, by teams not interested.

For the biggest agent in the NHL, JP Barry seem spretty f'ing dumb if you ask me. "My client wants options"; here they are JP Ottawa or Edmonton (option A and Option B); Take one and go f$$$ yourself.

Have you guys heard the latest that he might go play in Switzerland?

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I have a feeling that Wilson will try to get a similar deal to what he had to give up for Thornton. I wouldn't mind taking Marleau back, but there would have to be something elae that sweetens the deal big time, like high picks and prospects.

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jamvan wrote:The Sharks are not at all interested in Dany Heatley, that's a fact.

I suppose now Murray will have to go out and get a list, signed, by teams not interested.

For the biggest agent in the NHL, JP Barry seem spretty f'ing dumb if you ask me. "My client wants options"; here they are JP Ottawa or Edmonton (option A and Option B); Take one and go f$$$ yourself.

Have you guys heard the latest that he might go play in Switzerland?

That is just the agents overvaluing their client, especially after how his actions have made him look, do they really think other teams will be lining up for him seeing how he has handled this situation (like a coward), it's amazing Edmonton still has interest if they do. I can say I have not heard the Switzerland thing, does his cap hit still count if he does that?

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[quote="SensFan71"]
jamvan wrote:The Sharks are not at all interested in Dany Heatley, that's a fact.

I suppose now Murray will have to go out and get a list, signed, by teams not interested.

For the biggest agent in the NHL, JP Barry seem spretty f'ing dumb if you ask me. "My client wants options"; here they are JP Ottawa or Edmonton (option A and Option B); Take one and go f$$$ yourself.

Have you guys heard the latest that he might go play in Switzerland?

That's a joke, right? Or is this Yashin part deux?

SensFan71


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[quote="Snuh"]
SensFan71 wrote:
jamvan wrote:The Sharks are not at all interested in Dany Heatley, that's a fact.

I suppose now Murray will have to go out and get a list, signed, by teams not interested.

For the biggest agent in the NHL, JP Barry seem spretty f'ing dumb if you ask me. "My client wants options"; here they are JP Ottawa or Edmonton (option A and Option B); Take one and go f$$$ yourself.

Have you guys heard the latest that he might go play in Switzerland?

That's a joke, right? Or is this Yashin part deux?

this is way beyond Yashin, we should be burning Heatley effigies at SBP because of all this, I see his jersey's have all be marked down to 50% off in the city.

davetherave

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jamvan wrote:The Sharks are not at all interested in Dany Heatley, that's a fact.

I suppose now Murray will have to go out and get a list, signed, by teams not interested.

For the biggest agent in the NHL, JP Barry seem spretty f'ing dumb if you ask me. "My client wants options"; here they are JP Ottawa or Edmonton (option A and Option B); Take one and go f$$$ yourself.

Have you guys heard the latest that he might go play in Switzerland?

Jamvan> there has been talk about if/where Heatley might play if not in Ottawa...Swiss League and KHL have been mentioned, but I have not seen any reliable source on this...so this may be just a supposition.

Where did you catch this info?

BTW the Swiss League has a transfer agreement with the NHL--the KHL does not.

So in principle, Heatley could go to Switzerland if the parties agreed...he could theoretically jump to the KHL without approval (like Radulov) but would be suspended.

At this point, IMHO it is, honestly, difficult to imagine what NHL team would want to take this messy problem off Bryan Murray's hands.

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[quote="SensFan71"]
Snuh wrote:
SensFan71 wrote:
jamvan wrote:The Sharks are not at all interested in Dany Heatley, that's a fact.

I suppose now Murray will have to go out and get a list, signed, by teams not interested.

For the biggest agent in the NHL, JP Barry seem spretty f'ing dumb if you ask me. "My client wants options"; here they are JP Ottawa or Edmonton (option A and Option B); Take one and go f$$$ yourself.

Have you guys heard the latest that he might go play in Switzerland?

That's a joke, right? Or is this Yashin part deux?

this is way beyond Yashin, we should be burning Heatley effigies at SBP because of all this, I see his jersey's have all be marked down to 50% off in the city.

The only reason I ask is because Yashin fled to Switzerland when he was holding out. Not to play, but to more or less, escape from Ottawa.

SensFan71


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[quote="Snuh"]
SensFan71 wrote:
Snuh wrote:
SensFan71 wrote:
jamvan wrote:The Sharks are not at all interested in Dany Heatley, that's a fact.

I suppose now Murray will have to go out and get a list, signed, by teams not interested.

For the biggest agent in the NHL, JP Barry seem spretty f'ing dumb if you ask me. "My client wants options"; here they are JP Ottawa or Edmonton (option A and Option B); Take one and go f$$$ yourself.

Have you guys heard the latest that he might go play in Switzerland?

That's a joke, right? Or is this Yashin part deux?

this is way beyond Yashin, we should be burning Heatley effigies at SBP because of all this, I see his jersey's have all be marked down to 50% off in the city.

The only reason I ask is because Yashin fled to Switzerland when he was holding out. Not to play, but to more or less, escape from Ottawa.

very interesting, I did not remember that to be honest, so there are a few more similarities then if this is the case, good catch on that one. Heatley has his escape right now in Kelowna I believe, even though he will be returning shortly for Spezz's wedding, unless that has already happened.

wprager

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jamvan wrote:The Sharks are not at all interested in Dany Heatley, that's a fact.

I suppose now Murray will have to go out and get a list, signed, by teams not interested.

For the biggest agent in the NHL, JP Barry seem spretty f'ing dumb if you ask me. "My client wants options"; here they are JP Ottawa or Edmonton (option A and Option B); Take one and go f$$$ yourself.

Have you guys heard the latest that he might go play in Switzerland?



He should go play for Germany in February.

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