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Bryan Murray Vs Dany Heatley: Who Blinks First?

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What Should Bryan Murray Do About Dany Heatley?

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Again, the agents, royally screwed up this time. They screwed with the wrong GM.

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MurderOnIce wrote:If DW is right, Barry and McAlpine are probably in hot water with the PA.

Very much so. :^^^^:

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Neely4Life wrote:Again, the agents, royally screwed up this time. They screwed with the wrong GM.

It certainly appears so. They should have asked us. We knew Murray was a hard-arse.

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Dawg's Wife wrote:Further, Edmonton was told that the deal must be reworked and a better return is expected.
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Kipper said it basically the same day it came out, Murray isnt the guy you want to hold a gun too... obviously not.

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asq2 wrote:
Dawg's Wife wrote:Further, Edmonton was told that the deal must be reworked and a better return is expected.
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FingersCrossed

The first thing I thought of was MPS. :^^^^: Or Eberle, or Gilbert.

But, Edmonton fans insist that there's no chance they'd send over a freshly drafted player like MPS.

Diddle you, give him.

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SpezDispenser wrote:The first thing I thought of was MPS. :^^^^: Or Eberle, or Gilbert.

But, Edmonton fans insist that there's no chance they'd send over a freshly drafted player like MPS.

Diddle you, give him.

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SpezDispenser wrote:
asq2 wrote:
Dawg's Wife wrote:Further, Edmonton was told that the deal must be reworked and a better return is expected.
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The first thing I thought of was MPS. :^^^^: Or Eberle, or Gilbert.

But, Edmonton fans insist that there's no chance they'd send over a freshly drafted player like MPS.

Diddle you, give him.

Frustrated1

Could Murray be such a bad Donkey GM, that he would be the first GM ever to fleece a team for a player that can essentially deal with only them? Could you imagine that?

Tambellini: "Well, we are the only team that really wants him. And I feel like we've made a pretty generous pitch here."

Murray: "More."

Tambellini: "OK"

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:^^^^:

Don't put it past Murray, he's pretty shrewd.

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Let's put it this way, I wouldn't want to be the Oilers dealing with Murray. BUT, they did arrange a pretty smart deal to get Heatley in the first place.

But I see what you're saying. If Heatley waives his NTC and agrees to Edmonton, Murray turns around and says, the first deal's deal, but now you know you can have Dany Diddling Heatley - and the price has doubled.

I dare you to say no. Your fan base would implode when Murray leaked that you nixed a deal.

It's...diabolical. Ahhhhh!

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PKC wrote:

Could Murray be such a bad Donkey GM, that he would be the first GM ever to fleece a team for a player that can essentially deal with only them? Could you imagine that?

Tambellini: "Well, we are the only team that really wants him. And I feel like we've made a pretty generous pitch here."

Murray: "More." "Bend over further"

Tambellini: "OK"

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SpezDispenser wrote:Let's put it this way, I wouldn't want to be the Oilers dealing with Murray. BUT, they did arrange a pretty smart deal to get Heatley in the first place.

But I see what you're saying. If Heatley waives his NTC and agrees to Edmonton, Murray turns around and says, the first deal's deal, but now you know you can have Dany Diddling Heatley - and the price has doubled.

I dare you to say no. Your fan base would implode when Murray leaked that you nixed a deal.

It's...diabolical. Ahhhhh!

You don't want to play with fire though. There is a certain amount of respect these guys have for each other when they make deals, because some GMs tend to look at other GMs and teams if they've had past dealings in good faith with them. Just something to keep in mind.

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PKC wrote:
You don't want to play with fire though. There is a certain amount of respect these guys have for each other when they make deals, because some GMs tend to look at other GMs and teams if they've had past dealings in good faith with them. Just something to keep in mind.

I thought of that as well after I had posted. And it's true, there really is a code of conduct - which is why no one has tendered an offer sheet yet. Even though Boston could never match and Chicago's unlikely to be able to as well.

Good call.

Still... Ahhhhh!

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A few things to bear in mind....

As far as the letter from Heatley requesting the trade goes, its potential impact depends on the wording of the no-trade clause and the contract itself.

When dealing with contracts, a number of them will contain a specific paragraph saying that the Parties agree to the Terms and Conditions of the Agreement as contained therein, and that no subsequent document may be construed as altering or voiding the contract, and that only unless the Parties specifically agree to do so.

This gets very, very complicated...and can have lawyers arguing for months.

And as far as Edmonton is concerned, they are not, as far as I know, obligated to take the deal if the terms of the deal are changed.

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davetherave wrote:A few things to bear in mind....

As far as the letter from Heatley requesting the trade goes, its potential impact depends on the wording of the no-trade clause and the contract itself.

When dealing with contracts, a number of them will contain a specific paragraph saying that the Parties agree to the Terms and Conditions of the Agreement as contained therein, and that no subsequent document may be construed as altering or voiding the contract, and that only unless the Parties specifically agree to do so.

This gets very, very complicated...and can have lawyers arguing for months.

And as far as Edmonton is concerned, they are not, as far as I know, obligated to take the deal if the terms of the deal are changed.

No, I'm sure they won't. Murray and Lowe or Tambellini will have to hammer it out again from scratch. This time both sides will ask for his waive to Edmonton in writing I assume. :^^^^:

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davetherave wrote:A few things to bear in mind....

As far as the letter from Heatley requesting the trade goes, its potential impact depends on the wording of the no-trade clause and the contract itself.

When dealing with contracts, a number of them will contain a specific paragraph saying that the Parties agree to the Terms and Conditions of the Agreement as contained therein, and that no subsequent document may be construed as altering or voiding the contract, and that only unless the Parties specifically agree to do so.

This gets very, very complicated...and can have lawyers arguing for months.

And as far as Edmonton is concerned, they are not, as far as I know, obligated to take the deal if the terms of the deal are changed.

I hope the guy just smartens up enough to realize that maybe it's best to just move along.

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PKC wrote:

This is going to set precedents of biblical proportions. Wasn't I the first one to say that by demanding a trade he violated the terms of his contract?

Nah, I'm sure it was N4L Smile

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wprager wrote:
PKC wrote:

This is going to set precedents of biblical proportions. Wasn't I the first one to say that by demanding a trade he violated the terms of his contract?

Nah, I'm sure it was N4L Smile

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