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121All Hockey talk all the time - Page 9 Empty Re: All Hockey talk all the time Mon Nov 03, 2008 7:19 am

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wprager wrote:
Tukker wrote:Maybe Ovechkin was his translator

Semin-Я думаю, Кросби уделяется слишком много внимания (I think Crosby is given too much attention)

Ovechkin- Crosby is nothing special

Semin- Патрик Кейн, например, заслуживает более пристального внимания(Patrick Kane, for example, deserves more attention)

Ovechkin- Kane is a much better player

Semin- Это все, что я должен сказать (That is all I have to say)

Ovechkin- Ovechkin is God


:lol!:

Did you make that up? If so, where did you learn your Russian.

Wait a minute, the translation of the last sentence looks like a babelfishism or googlism. "have to" is translated as "must". Semin definitely would not say "That is all that I must say"... unless, of course, he's being mind-controlled by Ovechkin.
I just used Google. I can't even speak French for Diddle 's sake. I have a hard enough time with English....

122All Hockey talk all the time - Page 9 Empty Re: All Hockey talk all the time Mon Nov 03, 2008 8:11 am

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wprager wrote:Actually, I'm probably not disagreeing as much as it comes across. My "personality" shining through, I'm sure Smile

There are three things Semin said:

1. He didn't think there was anything special about Crosby when compared to other skillful players in the league. Specifically, he brought up Kane as an example of a more interesting player.

I disagree with this a bit, since I do think that Crosby is special. But, OK, that's an opinion. He thinks Kane (maybe others?) is a more interesting player.

2. He criticized how Crosby is being promoted.

Can't argue with that. I can't stand it either. Although when he says "dead wood" I really don't think he was referring to Crosby directly, but that's how it came across. I think he really was saying that if you hype a not-so-good player to an unreasonable extent you would have a "start". Possibly true, especially in non-hockey markets.

Then, when he adds "Especially if he gets 100 points". Well, he lost me right there. If someone gets 100 points he's not dead wood. But I see his popint about relying too much on stats. In the RSL (now KHL) and other European leagues, you don't get a point for the second assist, so players who get tons of assists are not leading the scoring race like they do here. There is a much higher emphasis on goals and skill, not just points.

So you have to project what he is saying through that "lens" to better understand his point.

3. His last poinr about someone scoring 50 goals by deflecting them in front of the net certainly was not aimed at Crosby. I actually don't agree with that point, but, again, think of what that would mean in Europe.

Over here, in the NHL, it takes a certain skill and determination to stand in front of 100+ MPH slapshots, while being hooked, slew-footed, hacked and cross-checked by both defensemen and goalies. Much of that is probably not happening over in Europe, and this young kid obviously doesn't understand that the Espositos, Bertuzzis (earlier) and Tocchets don't grow on trees.

Very well said, can't really disagree with anything... Your definitely right about the Crosby marketing thing.. Sometimes it's just a little over the top... They should concentrate on promoting ALL of their stars... Not just Crosby.. But the Ovechkin's, Heatley's, Lecavalier's, Kovalchuk's etc...... They had those commercials for a while, of them in hotel rooms, where they used a lot of different players and not just Crosby.. They should keep up with that... I'm not so sure I like the new "picture"campaign...

123All Hockey talk all the time - Page 9 Empty Re: All Hockey talk all the time Mon Nov 03, 2008 8:24 am

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Mornin' GMHockey faithful :D

How's things in the lounge? I see we're debating the whole Semin comment about Crosby. I honestly didn't find it all that noteworthy.

124All Hockey talk all the time - Page 9 Empty Re: All Hockey talk all the time Mon Nov 03, 2008 8:33 am

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Morning Clutch!

I didn't even hear about the comment. Frankly, I don't care one bit about that guy.

125All Hockey talk all the time - Page 9 Empty Re: All Hockey talk all the time Mon Nov 03, 2008 8:36 am

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mattshock wrote:Morning Clutch!

I didn't even hear about the comment. Frankly, I don't care one bit about that guy.

He's definitely tearing it up so far though.. Not sure if he'll keep it up though... Still haven't seen or heard the comment for myself.. Only going by what others have said...

126All Hockey talk all the time - Page 9 Empty Re: All Hockey talk all the time Mon Nov 03, 2008 8:42 am

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I read it in the paper. I'd be paraphrasing and besides which, I don't really care :D


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127All Hockey talk all the time - Page 9 Empty Re: All Hockey talk all the time Mon Nov 03, 2008 9:41 am

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*cricket

kind of dead in here today, isn't it?

128All Hockey talk all the time - Page 9 Empty Re: All Hockey talk all the time Mon Nov 03, 2008 9:43 am

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This will wake it up....

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...we have a winner. Me likey.

129All Hockey talk all the time - Page 9 Empty Re: All Hockey talk all the time Mon Nov 03, 2008 9:44 am

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Thank you... :cyclops:

130All Hockey talk all the time - Page 9 Empty Re: All Hockey talk all the time Mon Nov 03, 2008 9:57 am

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Let's talk some hockey!

In my Yahoo pool, I'm in trouble in nets.

Leclaire (IR)/Budaj/Bryzgalov/Auld

I considered going after Turco, as he has to turn it around, and his value is low right now. Any thoughts? Other guys I should go for?

131All Hockey talk all the time - Page 9 Empty Re: All Hockey talk all the time Mon Nov 03, 2008 9:58 am

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smash88 wrote:Thank you... :cyclops:

Only thing that keeps me reading the Sun is the chance of finding a gazelle amongst the wildebeests...

132All Hockey talk all the time - Page 9 Empty Re: All Hockey talk all the time Mon Nov 03, 2008 9:59 am

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mattshock wrote:Let's talk some hockey!

In my Yahoo pool, I'm in trouble in nets.

Leclaire (IR)/Budaj/Bryzgalov/Auld

I considered going after Turco, as he has to turn it around, and his value is low right now. Any thoughts? Other guys I should go for?

Yeah I'd say Turco.. He's definitely going to get better, he's too good of a goalie not too....

133All Hockey talk all the time - Page 9 Empty Re: All Hockey talk all the time Mon Nov 03, 2008 9:59 am

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MurderOnIce wrote:
smash88 wrote:Thank you... :cyclops:

Only thing that keeps me reading the Sun is the chance of finding a gazelle amongst the wildebeests...

LOL...

134All Hockey talk all the time - Page 9 Empty Re: All Hockey talk all the time Mon Nov 03, 2008 10:03 am

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I wonder if I could snag him for Antropov. (I know, I have to drop this guy ASAP!)

135All Hockey talk all the time - Page 9 Empty Re: All Hockey talk all the time Mon Nov 03, 2008 10:39 am

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Is anyone good with Pivot Tables in here?

I'm bashing my head on my keyboard trying to figure something out that 'should' be simple.

Help!

136All Hockey talk all the time - Page 9 Empty Re: All Hockey talk all the time Mon Nov 03, 2008 2:32 pm

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Hey Clutch, think I'll get banned on HB for that one?

I was bored, and couldn't help myself.

137All Hockey talk all the time - Page 9 Empty Re: All Hockey talk all the time Mon Nov 03, 2008 2:42 pm

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mattshock wrote:Hey Clutch, think I'll get banned on HB for that one?

I was bored, and couldn't help myself.

what did ya do? LOL

Did you have enough of the Spezza going to "insert team of day here"

138All Hockey talk all the time - Page 9 Empty Re: All Hockey talk all the time Mon Nov 03, 2008 2:42 pm

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Nah, check it out.

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/boards/thread.php?thread_id=56041&page=last#2324098

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