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Petition to have McGuire apologize.

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rooneypoo
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Should Pierre McGuire apologize for his comments on Team1200?

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16Petition to have McGuire apologize. - Page 2 Empty Re: Petition to have McGuire apologize. Fri Jan 23, 2009 11:44 am

davetherave


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I heard McGuire's interview, and his comment was standard McGuire. Over the top and snarky, but there was some element of truth.

IMHO his use of the word 'provincial' in this context (meaning a narrow, partisan view of the situation) was probably aimed more at the hosts of the program, who seem to constantly make excuses for the Senators instead of offering insightful and objective comment.

The word 'partisan' would have probably been a better choice.

McGuire is, at his best, annoying, and at his worst, insufferable. But he does know his hockey.

On Team 1200, Mike Eastwood calls it as he sees it, and isn't afraid to discuss the real issues; on CJRC, Alain Sanscartier is frank and addresses questions about the team in depth. Wayne Scanlan is probably the best hockey journalist in this city.

A little less cheerleading or slagging, and more informed discussion, would be welcome overall in Ottawa hockey media.

The fans are intelligent, and they deserve better.

17Petition to have McGuire apologize. - Page 2 Empty Re: Petition to have McGuire apologize. Fri Jan 23, 2009 12:42 pm

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Mike Eastwood if fine until someone challenges him or disagrees with him. When this happens, he turns Kulka like and goes on the attack and tries to belittle the caller.

18Petition to have McGuire apologize. - Page 2 Empty Re: Petition to have McGuire apologize. Fri Jan 23, 2009 12:56 pm

PTFlea


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It was a dickhead thing to say, but he doesn't need to apologize. Just go deeper into it next segment and explain what he thinks.

19Petition to have McGuire apologize. - Page 2 Empty Re: Petition to have McGuire apologize. Fri Jan 23, 2009 12:58 pm

SeawaySensFan

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B B B Bird is the Word wrote:Mike Eastwood if fine until someone challenges him or disagrees with him. When this happens, he turns Kulka like and goes on the attack and tries to belittle the caller.

Whenever Kulka starts tripping over words while reading emails he starts blaming the emailer for not being able to form sentences or conveying clear thoughts.

It's funny.

20Petition to have McGuire apologize. - Page 2 Empty Re: Petition to have McGuire apologize. Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:04 pm

dennycrane

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Most on Team 1200 are terrible. The post-game show is unlistenable. The morning show is a joke. The afternoon show is just ok.

Glenn Kulka's 4th grade teacher should apologize for passing him, even though it was his third try.

21Petition to have McGuire apologize. - Page 2 Empty Re: Petition to have McGuire apologize. Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:05 pm

Cap'n Clutch

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dennycrane wrote:Most on Team 1200 are terrible. The post-game show is unlistenable. The morning show is a joke. The afternoon show is just ok.

Glenn Kulka's 4th grade teacher should apologize for passing him, even though it was his third try.

Most definitely. 8)


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22Petition to have McGuire apologize. - Page 2 Empty Re: Petition to have McGuire apologize. Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:08 pm

Mojo

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I got to be honest, this poll is ridiculous. The guy is on the radio. He can say whatever he wants. If you don't like it, don't tune in. He doesn't owe anyone any apologies. Now with that said, he is a douche and often talks out of his Donkey.

23Petition to have McGuire apologize. - Page 2 Empty Re: Petition to have McGuire apologize. Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:10 pm

SeawaySensFan

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Just don't try and get York to talk about Wade Redden or he'll tell you that he can pretty much walk on water. Kinda like the new US President.
Overall, I like York though.

24Petition to have McGuire apologize. - Page 2 Empty Re: Petition to have McGuire apologize. Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:12 pm

SeawaySensFan

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Mojo wrote:I got to be honest, this poll is ridiculous.

The difference between you and the Name Dropper is that you called the poll ridiculous. He would have insulted the poster and everyone on the forum.

25Petition to have McGuire apologize. - Page 2 Empty Re: Petition to have McGuire apologize. Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:41 pm

TeamRenzo


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SeawaySensFan wrote:
Mojo wrote:I got to be honest, this poll is ridiculous.

The difference between you and the Name Dropper is that you called the poll ridiculous. He would have insulted the poster and everyone on the forum.

I don't think that McGuire intended to offend anyone, I have been listening to him for years and I have never heard him insult anyone.

Let's not forget that McGuire has a SC ring, that is one more than anyone else on this forum.

26Petition to have McGuire apologize. - Page 2 Empty Re: Petition to have McGuire apologize. Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:51 pm

SeawaySensFan

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TeamRenzo wrote:I don't think that McGuire intended to offend anyone, I have been listening to him for years and I have never heard him insult anyone.

Let's not forget that McGuire has a SC ring, that is one more than anyone else on this forum.

You're right. That's because no one has ever challenged him. It's always a love-in when fans call in or write in. This is the first time and the reaction is shockingly strong isn't it?

Using a Stanley Cup ring to defend McGuire is like him comparing Elliott to Roy and Brodeur to defend his position. Highly disproportionate.

27Petition to have McGuire apologize. - Page 2 Empty Re: Petition to have McGuire apologize. Fri Jan 23, 2009 2:13 pm

davetherave

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B B B Bird is the Word wrote:Mike Eastwood if fine until someone challenges him or disagrees with him. When this happens, he turns Kulka like and goes on the attack and tries to belittle the caller.

At least Eastwood has the hockey knowledge...he's been around the block more than once... Wink
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=1522

He CAN be feisty...but after all, he's still a hockey player in his mindset.

When I call in, though, I've found him pretty reasonable, and he's responded to some of my tougher questions. IMHO the key with him is to stick to a point, be brief, and have supporting facts.

He's definitely critical in his perspective...which isn't necessarily a bad thing.

Jason York can also be good, but The Team should let him do more of the talking than the nominal host. York comes out with some gems, like the one he recounted about Joe Corvo's nervous breakdown in the Sens dressing room last year.

But agreed, McGuire's a pain--you always feel like he's saying 'I deserve to be a coach again'.

IMHO Pierre Lebrun is a lot better. EJ Hradek is also good, but besides his blog on ESPN, you have to have NHL Live on TV or XM to catch him.

28Petition to have McGuire apologize. - Page 2 Empty Re: Petition to have McGuire apologize. Fri Jan 23, 2009 2:21 pm

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davetherave wrote:
B B B Bird is the Word wrote:Mike Eastwood if fine until someone challenges him or disagrees with him. When this happens, he turns Kulka like and goes on the attack and tries to belittle the caller.

At least Eastwood has the hockey knowledge...he's been around the block more than once... Wink
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=1522

He CAN be feisty...but after all, he's still a hockey player in his mindset.

When I call in, though, I've found him pretty reasonable, and he's responded to some of my tougher questions. IMHO the key with him is to stick to a point, be brief, and have supporting facts.

He's definitely critical in his perspective...which isn't necessarily a bad thing.

Jason York can also be good, but The Team should let him do more of the talking than the nominal host. York comes out with some gems, like the one he recounted about Joe Corvo's nervous breakdown in the Sens dressing room last year.

But agreed, McGuire's a pain--you always feel like he's saying 'I deserve to be a coach again'.

IMHO Pierre Lebrun is a lot better. EJ Hradek is also good, but besides his blog on ESPN, you have to have NHL Live on TV or XM to catch him.

Having hockey knowledge is great, but that alone shouldn't get you a job on the radio. That, to me seems to be the Team1200's problem: they bring in these former atheletes with all sorts of stories to tell, and info to share, but the just don't have the personality to make good radio. Were they the only former NHLers to apply? The only one on Ottawa radio that had both the personality and knowledge to be on radio was Garry Galley.

29Petition to have McGuire apologize. - Page 2 Empty Re: Petition to have McGuire apologize. Fri Jan 23, 2009 2:45 pm

TeamRenzo


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SeawaySensFan wrote:
TeamRenzo wrote:I don't think that McGuire intended to offend anyone, I have been listening to him for years and I have never heard him insult anyone.

Let's not forget that McGuire has a SC ring, that is one more than anyone else on this forum.

You're right. That's because no one has ever challenged him. It's always a love-in when fans call in or write in. This is the first time and the reaction is shockingly strong isn't it?

Using a Stanley Cup ring to defend McGuire is like him comparing Elliott to Roy and Brodeur to defend his position. Highly disproportionate.

You are wrong, McGuire has been challenged many times on both radio and tv. A few years back he made remarks about how Lalime was not good enough of a tender to win a cup, Ottawa fans were all over him.

Let's be real here, Pierre has forgotten more about hockey than anyone on this website can ever dream of knowing. He was hand picked by Scotty Bowman for a damn good reason.

If people in Ottawa were offended by his remarks than that is just to bad!

30Petition to have McGuire apologize. - Page 2 Empty Re: Petition to have McGuire apologize. Fri Jan 23, 2009 2:46 pm

davetherave

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B B B Bird is the Word wrote:

Having hockey knowledge is great, but that alone shouldn't get you a job on the radio. That, to me seems to be the Team1200's problem: they bring in these former atheletes with all sorts of stories to tell, and info to share, but the just don't have the personality to make good radio. Were they the only former NHLers to apply? The only one on Ottawa radio that had both the personality and knowledge to be on radio was Garry Galley.

Agreed, but I tend to think the Program Director at Team 1200 doesn't have a very clear vision of what these programs should be. They just seem to go for the lowest common denominator.

CKAC Corus Sports, on the other hand, has guest commentators like Pat Burns, Jacques Demers and Michel Bergeron, all ex-coaches and guys who have a sense of humour about themselves.

Comparison of the quality of the Team 1200's interviews with what CKAC does is also startling. The difference between Michel Langevin's chat with NHLPA prez Paul Kelly, and the chitchat that 'Healthy Scratch' had, was night and day.

The interview Langevin and Pat Burns did with Brian Burke was also excellent.

We really need an upgrade on Ottawa hockey radio.

31Petition to have McGuire apologize. - Page 2 Empty Re: Petition to have McGuire apologize. Fri Jan 23, 2009 2:55 pm

Cap'n Clutch

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TeamRenzo wrote:
SeawaySensFan wrote:
TeamRenzo wrote:I don't think that McGuire intended to offend anyone, I have been listening to him for years and I have never heard him insult anyone.

Let's not forget that McGuire has a SC ring, that is one more than anyone else on this forum.

You're right. That's because no one has ever challenged him. It's always a love-in when fans call in or write in. This is the first time and the reaction is shockingly strong isn't it?

Using a Stanley Cup ring to defend McGuire is like him comparing Elliott to Roy and Brodeur to defend his position. Highly disproportionate.

You are wrong, McGuire has been challenged many times on both radio and tv. A few years back he made remarks about how Lalime was not good enough of a tender to win a cup, Ottawa fans were all over him.

Let's be real here, Pierre has forgotten more about hockey than anyone on this website can ever dream of knowing. He was hand picked by Scotty Bowman for a damn good reason.

If people in Ottawa were offended by his remarks than that is just to bad!

Since you were so helpful earlier - It should actually read: then that is just too bad! Wink


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32Petition to have McGuire apologize. - Page 2 Empty Re: Petition to have McGuire apologize. Fri Jan 23, 2009 3:00 pm

SensGirl11

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I voted No. I don't think he needs to apologize for anything. Everyone is entitled to their opinions. As much as he is starting to irritate me, he can say what he wants. We all believe what we want to believe, and say what we want to say, it is a free world.

I would like to punch him in the teeth sometimes though.

33Petition to have McGuire apologize. - Page 2 Empty Re: Petition to have McGuire apologize. Fri Jan 23, 2009 3:11 pm

TeamRenzo


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Cap'n Clutch wrote:
TeamRenzo wrote:
SeawaySensFan wrote:
TeamRenzo wrote:I don't think that McGuire intended to offend anyone, I have been listening to him for years and I have never heard him insult anyone.

Let's not forget that McGuire has a SC ring, that is one more than anyone else on this forum.

You're right. That's because no one has ever challenged him. It's always a love-in when fans call in or write in. This is the first time and the reaction is shockingly strong isn't it?

Using a Stanley Cup ring to defend McGuire is like him comparing Elliott to Roy and Brodeur to defend his position. Highly disproportionate.

You are wrong, McGuire has been challenged many times on both radio and tv. A few years back he made remarks about how Lalime was not good enough of a tender to win a cup, Ottawa fans were all over him.

Let's be real here, Pierre has forgotten more about hockey than anyone on this website can ever dream of knowing. He was hand picked by Scotty Bowman for a damn good reason.

If people in Ottawa were offended by his remarks than that is just to bad!

Since you were so helpful earlier - It should actually read: then that is just too bad! Wink

You were just waiting for that weren't you? Rolling Eyes

BTW, you STILL have APOLOGIZE spelt incorrectly

Oops. Thanks.

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