Ottawa Senators Top 10 Prospects - as voted on by GMH members!

tim1_2 wrote:Dunno if we can count Ceci as a true prospect anymore, since he's already a legit NHLer.

I'd put Lazar and probably Claesson as #1 and #2.  Claesson is going to surprise a bunch of people...he's really good.

Not convinced Ceci doesn't start the year in the AHL.

Depends what they do with BoroCop and Gryba.

Gryba I don't think is going anywhere, only RHD that PK's on a regular basis and he's a bottom pairing guy. IMO a small but big piece in Ottawa, glad he has become a legit NHLer.

1 lazar
2. Stone
3 Ceci
4 chiasson
5 Puempel
6 claesson
7 Pageau
8 Dzingel
9 wikistrand
10 guptill/englund/prince

Diddle I forgot Hoffman.

Mark Stone is the best prospect. Pretty sure he's a future first liner.

NEELY wrote:

tim1_2 wrote:Dunno if we can count Ceci as a true prospect anymore, since he's already a legit NHLer.

I'd put Lazar and probably Claesson as #1 and #2.  Claesson is going to surprise a bunch of people...he's really good.

Not convinced Ceci doesn't start the year in the AHL.

If he does it's only because of his two-way.

SpezDispenser wrote:1 lazar
2. Stone
3 Ceci
4 chiasson
5 Puempel
6 claesson
7 Pageau
8 Dzingel
9 wikistrand
10 guptill/englund/prince

I love Lazar as much as anyone but he hasn't played a single game in pro, so I'd question putting him ahead of Stone and Ceci.  That's why I said I consider Stone a regular (and Ceci has played even more games).

Edit: Chiasson has played in two NHL seasons, his last one being a full season. Maybe we should restrict this to player who are still eligible as rookies.

I think there's little question that lazar is the best prospect personally, with stone right behind him. I think a guy that can come in and skate, hit, pk, lead and score is the definition of a top prospect, but if it's stone that's great as well.

wprager wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:1 lazar
2. Stone
3 Ceci
4 chiasson
5 Puempel
6 claesson
7 Pageau
8 Dzingel
9 wikistrand
10 guptill/englund/prince

I love Lazar as much as anyone but he hasn't played a single game in pro, so I'd question putting him ahead of Stone and Ceci.  That's why I said I consider Stone a regular (and Ceci has played even more games).

Edit: Chiasson has played in two NHL seasons, his last one being a full season.  Maybe we should restrict this to player who are still eligible as rookies.

There's a big difference between "list the order of our prospects by NHL career upside" and "list the order of our prospects by who will begin contributing sooner rather than later." Lazar might have the highest upside of our prospects, but that doesn't mean he's more NHL ready than, say, Stone or Ceci, who each have some substantial NHL experience now.

I don't have a lot of insight on the former -- you really need to follow junior hockey for that -- but on the latter, I think we can say a few things with some confidence:

1) Chiasson is not a prospect
2) Ceci, Stone are NHL ready (maybe Lazar too)
3) Grant, JPG are right on the cusp of NHL ready if not there & are first-call-ups (I tend to think of Lazar as being here, but camp will tell the story), and
4) Puempel, Prince, Claesson, and Guptill have to be considered forerunners to enter that "on the cusp of NHL ready" category

Where they all rank in terms of NHL upside is another matter.

NEELY wrote:

tim1_2 wrote:Dunno if we can count Ceci as a true prospect anymore, since he's already a legit NHLer.

I'd put Lazar and probably Claesson as #1 and #2.  Claesson is going to surprise a bunch of people...he's really good.

Not convinced Ceci doesn't start the year in the AHL.

Barring a move on D, I'm convinced he does start in the A. I think he could use it too. He's good and has flashes of being great, but he's not even close to playing the dominate game I think he's capable of playing.

LeKing wrote:Mark Stone is the best prospect. Pretty sure he's a future first liner.

I believe this to be true. I think he's going to have a very good season.

SpezDispenser, where's the poll to figure out the rankings? Isn't that your jam?

spader wrote:SpezDispenser, where's the poll to figure out the rankings? Isn't that your jam?

I'll get on it this weekend.

It's "this weekend".

Anyone have Driedger in their top 5? He gets a lot of praise on hf, but I don't know much about the guy.

EDIT: I should mention, some list him as our top prospect.

spader wrote:Anyone have Driedger in their top 5? He gets a lot of praise on hf, but I don't know much about the guy.

EDIT: I should mention, some list him as our top prospect.

Saw a bit of him at the DC -- he looked very solid technically, but goalies are so tough to gauge early on. Tough to put any label on him now, especially the "top" one.

Oh, for sure. I just thought it would be worth mentioning. I'm just trying to get some discussion going.