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DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:

wprager wrote:

DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:Zaitsevs bonus was paid yesterday. I suspect he's out the door by the end of the weekend.

Is this just your personal "suspicion"?  Man, I defended this guy early on but I would be very happy if this comes to pass.  

Garrioch was saying the same thing in his article in the Sun from Friday (happy Ev?)

Pagnotta also linking the Sens to Groux, Strome and Kadri. I feel like Kadri will price himself out of Ottawa but man what a great add he'd be.

Where would Kadri fit at C? I don’t think he’s a target of Ottawa nor would he come here.

Giroux and Strome are likelier candidate but how much RW has Strome played? I feel like he’s been in the C position more often than not.

It is very interesting that Giroux hasn’t been signed by the panthers yet. I think he goes to market at this point. But rumblings are to be believed, he’s looking to sign with a strong contender and I don’t think we’re there. (Yet)

Maybe trading for a top4 before FA could help us in FA after

Stutzle and Norris could both play wing. Pinto too. And so can Kadri

Flo The Action wrote:

DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:

wprager wrote:

DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:Zaitsevs bonus was paid yesterday. I suspect he's out the door by the end of the weekend.

Is this just your personal "suspicion"?  Man, I defended this guy early on but I would be very happy if this comes to pass.  

Garrioch was saying the same thing in his article in the Sun from Friday (happy Ev?)

Pagnotta also linking the Sens to Groux, Strome and Kadri. I feel like Kadri will price himself out of Ottawa but man what a great add he'd be.

Where would Kadri fit at C? I don’t think he’s a target of Ottawa nor would he come here.

Giroux and Strome are likelier candidate but how much RW has Strome played? I feel like he’s been in the C position more often than not.

It is very interesting that Giroux hasn’t been signed by the panthers yet. I think he goes to market at this point. But rumblings are to be believed, he’s looking to sign with a strong contender and I don’t think we’re there. (Yet)

Maybe trading for a top4 before FA could help us in FA after

He could sign here and, if the team is not looking like a contender, they could move him at the deadline.

I'm leaning towards being okay with ottawa taking Lambert at #7 if Gauthier isn't available.

That speed and skill on Stutzles wing would be amazing. He just needs to learn how to pass a puck which is something Stutzle is learning to do also

DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:I'm leaning towards being okay with ottawa taking Lambert at #7 if Gauthier isn't available.

That speed and skill on Stutzles wing would be amazing. He just needs to learn how to pass a puck which is something Stutzle is learning to do also

yeah but lets be honest. that's not gonna happen. he's not a Dorion type pick.
I don't know how I feel about Lambert at 7. I think we'd have to be moving back in the over 15 pick range for me to justify that pick. there's a lot of risk there. which is why I'd be ok with it if we get ourself another 1st or if we make a trade for an NHL player (top 6, top 4)that sees us moving back in the draft for a late first.

DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:I'm leaning towards being okay with ottawa taking Lambert at #7 if Gauthier isn't available.

That speed and skill on Stutzles wing would be amazing. He just needs to learn how to pass a puck which is something Stutzle is learning to do also

I put the odds of that at 0.1%. Would be a huge shock and I don’t see it at all. He’s more likely to be a second round pick than top 10

Would be shocked if it isn’t on the top 6 or Kasper, Kemmel, or the other Finn

Flo The Action wrote:

DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:I'm leaning towards being okay with ottawa taking Lambert at #7 if Gauthier isn't available.

That speed and skill on Stutzles wing would be amazing. He just needs to learn how to pass a puck which is something Stutzle is learning to do also

yeah but lets be honest. that's not gonna happen. he's not a Dorion type pick.
I don't know how I feel about Lambert at 7. I think we'd have to be moving back in the over 15 pick range for me to justify that pick. there's a lot of risk there. which is why I'd be ok with it if we get ourself another 1st or if we make a trade for an NHL player (top 6, top 4)that sees us moving back in the draft for a late first.

It doesn’t sound like he’s any GM’s pick the way he has dropped. Sens don’t take somebody like that almost ever.

Ev wrote:

Flo The Action wrote:

DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:I'm leaning towards being okay with ottawa taking Lambert at #7 if Gauthier isn't available.

That speed and skill on Stutzles wing would be amazing. He just needs to learn how to pass a puck which is something Stutzle is learning to do also

yeah but lets be honest. that's not gonna happen. he's not a Dorion type pick.
I don't know how I feel about Lambert at 7. I think we'd have to be moving back in the over 15 pick range for me to justify that pick. there's a lot of risk there. which is why I'd be ok with it if we get ourself another 1st or if we make a trade for an NHL player (top 6, top 4)that sees us moving back in the draft for a late first.

It doesn’t sound like he’s any GM’s pick the way he has dropped. Sens don’t take somebody like that almost ever.

I don’t know about him slipping into the 2nd. Some team with multiple first like Buffalo, Arizona or possibly Montreal if they get a 3rd would take a chance on him but if he winds up in the 2nd round … it won’t surprise me either.

Flo The Action wrote:

Ev wrote:

Flo The Action wrote:

DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:I'm leaning towards being okay with ottawa taking Lambert at #7 if Gauthier isn't available.

That speed and skill on Stutzles wing would be amazing. He just needs to learn how to pass a puck which is something Stutzle is learning to do also

yeah but lets be honest. that's not gonna happen. he's not a Dorion type pick.
I don't know how I feel about Lambert at 7. I think we'd have to be moving back in the over 15 pick range for me to justify that pick. there's a lot of risk there. which is why I'd be ok with it if we get ourself another 1st or if we make a trade for an NHL player (top 6, top 4)that sees us moving back in the draft for a late first.

It doesn’t sound like he’s any GM’s pick the way he has dropped. Sens don’t take somebody like that almost ever.

I don’t know about him slipping into the 2nd. Some team with multiple first like Buffalo, Arizona or possibly Montreal if they get a 3rd would take a chance on him but if he winds up in the 2nd round … it won’t surprise me either.

I wouldn’t predict he will. But I see it as a higher chance than him going top 10

The right move buying out white. He’s an nhl player but not needed going forward

Ev wrote:The right move buying out white. He’s an nhl player but not needed going forward

Agreed. Someone will sign him on the very cheap and he'll be a depth player . My guess is Boston gives him a shot at $2M or so a season 

Happy ottawa didn't trade him to Montreal for an equally bad contract

DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:

Ev wrote:The right move buying out white. He’s an nhl player but not needed going forward

Agreed. Someone will sign him on the very cheap and he'll be a depth player . My guess is Boston gives him a shot at $2M or so a season 

Happy ottawa didn't trade him to Montreal for an equally bad contract

Agreed or Montreal or maybe Seattle could take a chance

Ev wrote:

DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:

Ev wrote:The right move buying out white. He’s an nhl player but not needed going forward

Agreed. Someone will sign him on the very cheap and he'll be a depth player . My guess is Boston gives him a shot at $2M or so a season 

Happy ottawa didn't trade him to Montreal for an equally bad contract

Agreed or Montreal or maybe Seattle could take a chance

I like it for the fact that it will provide $5.4 million in additional cap space in the 24-25 season. I'd rather use those funds on someone that is a better fit for the team.

The savings this year alone pays for the majority of the formenton and joseph extensions

I don’t like it. I think he could have been put into a deal for someone else but I understand the move. What annoys me right now is it likely means zaitsev is going to be a senator next year unless we have to pay Arizona to take him on. If we waste a 2nd rounder on someone taking zaitsev I’m going to be annoyed. White was serviceable and could have been utilized. You buy out zaitsev even if it costs more.

Flo The Action wrote:I don’t like it. I think he could have been put into a deal for someone else but I understand the move. What annoys me right now is it likely means zaitsev is going to be a senator next year unless we have to pay Arizona to take him on. If we waste a 2nd rounder on someone taking zaitsev I’m going to be annoyed. White was serviceable and could have been utilized. You buy out zaitsev even if it costs more.

Zaitsev needs an asset to be moved 100%

Nobody wanted white. I heard the Montreal trade was for Armia. Just another overpaid bottom six player. It's better they pay him 1/3 of his salary and move on. 

My guess is ottawa acquires chychrun and moves the 7 oa to Arizona along with zaitsev, brannstrom, and Greig

Dorion has to be the only gm in the league who needs to waste assets or retain salary in order to undo his deals. How this man still has a job is beyond me

Will White get a 2nd tv timeout video when he returns?