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Very good 24 hours for the Sens. There are still lots of ways to get to the cap floor - that wasn't really an issue that needed to be addressed yesterday or today.

tim1_2 wrote:Very good 24 hours for the Sens.  There are still lots of ways to get to the cap floor - that wasn't really an issue that needed to be addressed yesterday or today.

Disagree. There are lots of teams pressed to move players and picks were our best asset. We are also not signing anyone of relevance in free agency.

Tkachuk (ELC) Brown (ELC) Duclair (RFA)
Stutzle (ELC) Tierney(RFA) Batherson (ELC)
C.Brown(RFA) Norris (ELC) White
Paul(RFA)-Anisimov-Balcers (RFA)
Extra: Abramov

Chabot-Zaitsev
Wolanin-Zub (ELC)
Brannstrom (ELC)-Brown
Extra: Reilly

Murray
Nillson
Hogberg

How do we get to the cap floor?

DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:

tim1_2 wrote:Very good 24 hours for the Sens.  There are still lots of ways to get to the cap floor - that wasn't really an issue that needed to be addressed yesterday or today.

Disagree. There are lots of teams pressed to move players and picks were our best asset. We are also not signing anyone of relevance in free agency.

Tkachuk (ELC) Brown (ELC) Duclair (RFA)
Stutzle (ELC) Tierney(RFA) Batherson (ELC)
C.Brown(RFA) Norris (ELC) White
Paul(RFA)-Anisimov-Balcers (RFA)
Extra: Abramov

Chabot-Zaitsev
Wolanin-Zub (ELC)
Brannstrom (ELC)-Brown
Extra: Reilly

Murray
Nillson
Hogberg

How do we get to the cap floor?

It's not an issue at all. They can trade for cap hits or sign marginal free agents who may have nowhere else to go. Like they overpaid Hainsey last season. Murray is going to be $5-6 himself, along with Duclair, Brown, etc extensions.

Ev wrote:

DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:

tim1_2 wrote:Very good 24 hours for the Sens.  There are still lots of ways to get to the cap floor - that wasn't really an issue that needed to be addressed yesterday or today.

Disagree. There are lots of teams pressed to move players and picks were our best asset. We are also not signing anyone of relevance in free agency.

Tkachuk (ELC) Brown (ELC) Duclair (RFA)
Stutzle (ELC) Tierney(RFA) Batherson (ELC)
C.Brown(RFA) Norris (ELC) White
Paul(RFA)-Anisimov-Balcers (RFA)
Extra: Abramov

Chabot-Zaitsev
Wolanin-Zub (ELC)
Brannstrom (ELC)-Brown
Extra: Reilly

Murray
Nillson
Hogberg

How do we get to the cap floor?

It's not an issue at all. They can trade for cap hits or sign marginal free agents who may have nowhere else to go. Like they overpaid Hainsey last season. Murray is going to be $5-6 himself, along with Duclair, Brown, etc extensions.

Overpay players on the 30th place team just to hit the cap floor is the definition of poor cap management.

DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:

Ev wrote:

DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:

tim1_2 wrote:Very good 24 hours for the Sens.  There are still lots of ways to get to the cap floor - that wasn't really an issue that needed to be addressed yesterday or today.

Disagree. There are lots of teams pressed to move players and picks were our best asset. We are also not signing anyone of relevance in free agency.

Tkachuk (ELC) Brown (ELC) Duclair (RFA)
Stutzle (ELC) Tierney(RFA) Batherson (ELC)
C.Brown(RFA) Norris (ELC) White
Paul(RFA)-Anisimov-Balcers (RFA)
Extra: Abramov

Chabot-Zaitsev
Wolanin-Zub (ELC)
Brannstrom (ELC)-Brown
Extra: Reilly

Murray
Nillson
Hogberg

How do we get to the cap floor?

It's not an issue at all. They can trade for cap hits or sign marginal free agents who may have nowhere else to go. Like they overpaid Hainsey last season. Murray is going to be $5-6 himself, along with Duclair, Brown, etc extensions.

Overpay players on the 30th place team just to hit the cap floor is the definition of poor cap management.

What is the difference for one year? You sign them then trade them at the deadline for something if you're out of the playoff picture.

I expect a few minor signings and trades to address to issue. I expect them to acquire some assets in the form of a player or picks for next year to take on cap.

At least we have our #1 goalie locked up. That was our biggest need IMO

I'm super happy with the Murray trade and drafting Stutzle. The rest I'm not thrilled about to be honest but I can live with it. We'll have to keep an extra eye out on UND this year

Apparently college hockey is expected to start Nov 20

Ev wrote:

Flo The Action wrote:yeah... guess the sens couldn't have a draft without picking a G.

i don't mind but they could have picked someone lower than the 3rd round. whatever.
i don't think this draft is gonna be as definigning for us as they are making it out to be.

it was all about the first two picks + the third first rounder that got worse because of NYI's fluke run. Stutzle and Sanderson are what will make this is a defining draft.

Second rounders are just crapshoots.

I agree the goalie was picked too high. Knew they would get a goalie though.

I know i'm the only one excited but Sokorov is a move i didn't expect to make. the kid is an over-ager but seems to have worked on his deficiencies since they were highlighted.
He scores like crazy. has been for two years but that wasn't the question.

could bust, but could also be one of those steals of the draft.

tim1_2 wrote:

DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:Yeah I'm cool with it. Hogberg was never a long term solution. Daccord and Gus are the future. Maybe sogaard too.

Hogberg could absolutely work out as a long term solution.  He actually played really well for the Sens last year, and was decent for the B-Sens too.  It's hard to judge a Sens goalie based just on the #s from last year, because the defence was so uniquely terrible.  But I remember watching Hogberg a bunch and being very impressed.  

I'm high on Hogsberg. I don't know if he's number 1 material long term but could be a very good back up for years to come at the very least. he played very well for us last year.

Ev wrote:

DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:

tim1_2 wrote:Very good 24 hours for the Sens.  There are still lots of ways to get to the cap floor - that wasn't really an issue that needed to be addressed yesterday or today.

Disagree. There are lots of teams pressed to move players and picks were our best asset. We are also not signing anyone of relevance in free agency.

Tkachuk (ELC) Brown (ELC) Duclair (RFA)
Stutzle (ELC) Tierney(RFA) Batherson (ELC)
C.Brown(RFA) Norris (ELC) White
Paul(RFA)-Anisimov-Balcers (RFA)
Extra: Abramov

Chabot-Zaitsev
Wolanin-Zub (ELC)
Brannstrom (ELC)-Brown
Extra: Reilly

Murray
Nillson
Hogberg

How do we get to the cap floor?

It's not an issue at all. They can trade for cap hits or sign marginal free agents who may have nowhere else to go. Like they overpaid Hainsey last season. Murray is going to be $5-6 himself, along with Duclair, Brown, etc extensions.

they might throw a good chunk of cash to Murray on a short 3-year contract. That in itself could get us close to the floor when everyone else is resigned.
I don't know that we're that far off.

DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:I'm super happy with the Murray trade and drafting Stutzle. The rest I'm not thrilled about to be honest but I can live with it. We'll have to keep an extra eye out on UND this year

I get you. we expected the door to be blown open with skill and we went the safe route again.

I think had we had gone with another offensive talent with the 5th and a high ceiling guy with the 28th we'd feel different. I know I certainly would.

That Grieg kid will be fun to watch when you forget where he was drafted. he's gonna make it hell for other teams to play us. He is a tougher Jarko Ruutu. More scoring potential and toughness. But not the "Brad Marchand" some tiny minority of fans are saying. not unless he discovers an extra notch to his game.

Look at that kid we drafted at the end of the 2nd round. Sokolov.
He could be another Mike Hoffman for us. Scoring machine.

Flo The Action wrote:

DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:I'm super happy with the Murray trade and drafting Stutzle. The rest I'm not thrilled about to be honest but I can live with it. We'll have to keep an extra eye out on UND this year

I get you. we expected the door to be blown open with skill and we went the safe route again.

I think had we had gone with another offensive talent with the 5th and a high ceiling guy with the 28th we'd feel different. I know I certainly would.

That Grieg kid will be fun to watch when you forget where he was drafted. he's gonna make it hell for other teams to play us. He is a tougher Jarko Ruutu. More scoring potential and toughness. But not the "Brad Marchand" some tiny minority of fans are saying. not unless he discovers an extra notch to his game.

Look at that kid we drafted at the end of the 2nd round. Sokolov.
He could be another Mike Hoffman for us. Scoring machine.

I’m not going to forget where he was drafted because he went right where he was expected to go and many services had him higher. Nobody is actually saying he’s going to become Marchand, he said that himself. You do realize Marchand was a second round pick who was never expected to be as good as he’s become right? This draft was all about the top 12-13 or so. The rest was the same as any other. The same thing will happen too. The internet bloggers and analytics people will overhype the drafts of Toronto and other teams like they do every year.

All in all this was a good, fun, upbeat two days for the sens. Hope it continues into the season.

DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:Apparently Duclair didn't receive a qualifying offer

my tempered reaction in the ottawa senators tidbits forum.

Pashin in the 7th round to the Canes.

Kinda wish we'd have thrown our lowest pick at.
total high boom or bust player.

There is a reason Carolina, LA and NYR have the best prospect pools in the league, are miles ahead of Ottawa in their own rebuilds and have legit stars already on their roster. We are all witnessing how a draft should go with those 3 teams over the last 24 hours.

Ev wrote:

DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:

tim1_2 wrote:Very good 24 hours for the Sens.  There are still lots of ways to get to the cap floor - that wasn't really an issue that needed to be addressed yesterday or today.

Disagree. There are lots of teams pressed to move players and picks were our best asset. We are also not signing anyone of relevance in free agency.

Tkachuk (ELC) Brown (ELC) Duclair (RFA)
Stutzle (ELC) Tierney(RFA) Batherson (ELC)
C.Brown(RFA) Norris (ELC) White
Paul(RFA)-Anisimov-Balcers (RFA)
Extra: Abramov

Chabot-Zaitsev
Wolanin-Zub (ELC)
Brannstrom (ELC)-Brown
Extra: Reilly

Murray
Nillson
Hogberg

How do we get to the cap floor?

It's not an issue at all. They can trade for cap hits or sign marginal free agents who may have nowhere else to go. Like they overpaid Hainsey last season. Murray is going to be $5-6 himself, along with Duclair, Brown, etc extensions.

Murray 2018, 19 and 20
.908 SV% and hasn’t had a GAA under 2.7 for the last 3 years

Lehner 2018, 19 and 20
.927 SV% and has averaged a 2.4 GAA with his 4 teams for the last 3 years

Lehner - 5 million AAV

Murray, this should be hilarious.

Because lehner was super excited to resign here?
You either think ottawa's prospect pool is deep because gruden was a blue chip even though he's not rated as such on our depth chart
Or
This was a move to bring in an experienced and still young goalie for three years while we wait to see what else we have

Lagoon wrote:There is a reason Carolina, LA and NYR have the best prospect pools in the league, are miles ahead of Ottawa in their own rebuilds and have legit stars already on their roster. We are all witnessing how a draft should go with those 3 teams over the last 24 hours.

Man...do you ever stop?