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PTFlea wrote:There's a limit on how long a conditioning stint can last, there's no limit when you get waived.

kyle turris wrote:

PTFlea wrote:

kyle turris wrote:

PTFlea wrote:Sportsnetsays bobby ryan can be exposed in the expansion draft.  I'd definitely expose him.

No way. A: I don't think he's untradable ie worth a return B: creates another gap that has to be filled, C who's more productive Ryan or lazar? You expose lazar if it comes to that.
Sure he's got a large cap hit but it's not like we would be using that space anywhere else.

That has a real potential to be an anchor contract.  it would be a chance at a do-over on over 40 million dollars. 

Remember, I.was a huge supporter of signing ryan, but he's been underwhelming and for that kind of money, you need more production etc.  I think most are quite disappointed and a do-over, maybe even in free agency would be at least something to consider.

He's put up 20+ goals so far and could still factor to put better numbers (I think it's still early at this point and would like to reevaluate at the end of the season) and even then you have to think there's a trade to be made. It's a lot of money sure but how often have we seen the senators go out there and find a scorer? We gonna trade for another one and lose more assets? Certainly won't be one coming through FA? So where do we find this magical replacement?

MarkStone wrote:I'd protect him regardless. I'm not losing a top line RW for nothing.

MarkStone wrote:50-55 points is top line material. This isn't 2005.

PTFlea wrote:

MarkStone wrote:50-55 points is top line material. This isn't 2005.

On a weak roster it might be.  Or on a roster where every one of your top 6 players are netting 50+ points.  I understand scoring is way down, but if your top line RW is Ryan, you're in deep Dung.

Luckily he never will be with Mark Stone around.

MarkStone wrote:

PTFlea wrote:

MarkStone wrote:50-55 points is top line material. This isn't 2005.

On a weak roster it might be.  Or on a roster where every one of your top 6 players are netting 50+ points.  I understand scoring is way down, but if your top line RW is Ryan, you're in deep Dung.

Luckily he never will be with Mark Stone around.

As usual Ryan is underrated. As usual fans don't understand player value and need a scapegoat.

MarkStone wrote:Didn't you want to trade young Stone a year ago?

PTFlea wrote:

MarkStone wrote:I'd protect him regardless. I'm not losing a top line RW for nothing.

There once was a time when he was a top line RW.  Now...he's 2nd line material.  50-55 points and 7 million dollars = you better bring a lot more than Ryan does IMO.  I hope to Dung I'm wrong, I want badly to be wrong, but he's looking like an anchor.  Luckily...we don't need that cap space - yet.

kyle turris wrote:Very rarely am I in agreement with EV but he's right. He is underestimated and I don't ink there's reason to panic and say he can't be a 25-30 goal scorer again.