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wprager wrote:Exactly, he is soft.  He can take a hit so he's not like Phil Kessel at all.  Phil won't stick around for a hit, he'll just give up the puck.  Spezza will stand at the half-boards and take a hit if he's waiting to make a play.  Probably why he's had a couple of back surgeries already.  He'd actually save his back if he initiated contact more.  

Karlsson isn't soft but he *is* a finesse player who likes to skate out of traffic instead of through it.  No-one will accuse Karlsson of being a *hard* player.  Zibanejad payed hard for about 20 games and was great.  Then he reverted to his usual game and was way less effective.  

Chiasson scored 6 of his goals (more than half) on the PP where he was standing in front of the net.  He was not scoring them from there because he drove the net (like Pageau, Foligno).

DirtyDave wrote:

wprager wrote:Exactly, he is soft.  He can take a hit so he's not like Phil Kessel at all.  Phil won't stick around for a hit, he'll just give up the puck.  Spezza will stand at the half-boards and take a hit if he's waiting to make a play.  Probably why he's had a couple of back surgeries already.  He'd actually save his back if he initiated contact more.  

Karlsson isn't soft but he *is* a finesse player who likes to skate out of traffic instead of through it.  No-one will accuse Karlsson of being a *hard* player.  Zibanejad payed hard for about 20 games and was great.  Then he reverted to his usual game and was way less effective.  

Chiasson scored 6 of his goals (more than half) on the PP where he was standing in front of the net.  He was not scoring them from there because he drove the net (like Pageau, Foligno).

Were you a leafs fan before following the Sens?

tim1_2 wrote:6 yrs, $6.5M per for Stepan.  Wowza.

wprager wrote:Exactly, he is soft.  He can take a hit so he's not like Phil Kessel at all.  Phil won't stick around for a hit, he'll just give up the puck.  Spezza will stand at the half-boards and take a hit if he's waiting to make a play.  Probably why he's had a couple of back surgeries already.  He'd actually save his back if he initiated contact more.  

Karlsson isn't soft but he *is* a finesse player who likes to skate out of traffic instead of through it.  No-one will accuse Karlsson of being a *hard* player.  Zibanejad payed hard for about 20 games and was great.  Then he reverted to his usual game and was way less effective.  

Chiasson scored 6 of his goals (more than half) on the PP where he was standing in front of the net.  He was not scoring them from there because he drove the net (like Pageau, Foligno).

DirtyDave wrote:

wprager wrote:Exactly, he is soft.  He can take a hit so he's not like Phil Kessel at all.  Phil won't stick around for a hit, he'll just give up the puck.  Spezza will stand at the half-boards and take a hit if he's waiting to make a play.  Probably why he's had a couple of back surgeries already.  He'd actually save his back if he initiated contact more.  

Karlsson isn't soft but he *is* a finesse player who likes to skate out of traffic instead of through it.  No-one will accuse Karlsson of being a *hard* player.  Zibanejad payed hard for about 20 games and was great.  Then he reverted to his usual game and was way less effective.  

Chiasson scored 6 of his goals (more than half) on the PP where he was standing in front of the net.  He was not scoring them from there because he drove the net (like Pageau, Foligno).

Were you a leafs fan before following the Sens?

spader wrote:

wprager wrote:Exactly, he is soft.  He can take a hit so he's not like Phil Kessel at all.  Phil won't stick around for a hit, he'll just give up the puck.  Spezza will stand at the half-boards and take a hit if he's waiting to make a play.  Probably why he's had a couple of back surgeries already.  He'd actually save his back if he initiated contact more.  

Karlsson isn't soft but he *is* a finesse player who likes to skate out of traffic instead of through it.  No-one will accuse Karlsson of being a *hard* player.  Zibanejad payed hard for about 20 games and was great.  Then he reverted to his usual game and was way less effective.  

Chiasson scored 6 of his goals (more than half) on the PP where he was standing in front of the net.  He was not scoring them from there because he drove the net (like Pageau, Foligno).

I think Beaulieu might disagree.

NEELY wrote:Stepan is a solid #1 center, new breed.  Much like Turris, Burgereon, whoever.

spader wrote:

wprager wrote:Exactly, he is soft.  He can take a hit so he's not like Phil Kessel at all.  Phil won't stick around for a hit, he'll just give up the puck.  Spezza will stand at the half-boards and take a hit if he's waiting to make a play.  Probably why he's had a couple of back surgeries already.  He'd actually save his back if he initiated contact more.  

Karlsson isn't soft but he *is* a finesse player who likes to skate out of traffic instead of through it.  No-one will accuse Karlsson of being a *hard* player.  Zibanejad payed hard for about 20 games and was great.  Then he reverted to his usual game and was way less effective.  

Chiasson scored 6 of his goals (more than half) on the PP where he was standing in front of the net.  He was not scoring them from there because he drove the net (like Pageau, Foligno).

I think Beaulieu might disagree.

tim1_2 wrote:

That got me started down a terrific YouTube rabbit hole featuring some good The Alfie clips.

spader wrote:Penguins trade Sutter and a 3rd to the Canucks for Bonino, Clendening, and a 2nd.

SpezDispensed wrote:

spader wrote:Penguins trade Sutter and a 3rd to the Canucks for Bonino, Clendening, and a 2nd.

Can someone explain to me how the heck the Penguins turned Sutter and a 3rd into Bonino and a 2nd, not to even mention Clendening?

rooneypoo wrote:

SpezDispensed wrote:

spader wrote:Penguins trade Sutter and a 3rd to the Canucks for Bonino, Clendening, and a 2nd.

Can someone explain to me how the heck the Penguins turned Sutter and a 3rd into Bonino and a 2nd, not to even mention Clendening?

Yeah, don't like this one, either, from VAN's point of view. Bonino is at least as good as Sutter.

SpezDispensed wrote:

spader wrote:Penguins trade Sutter and a 3rd to the Canucks for Bonino, Clendening, and a 2nd.

Can someone explain to me how the heck the Penguins turned Sutter and a 3rd into Bonino and a 2nd, not to even mention Clendening?