Who cares about shootouts, we should make the playoffs even if we lose all of them otherwise we shouldn't be there.
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NEELY wrote:That's because Cowen has lost the benefit of the doubt. It's like a kid who makes the same mistake over and over again vs a kid who never makes a mistake but did this time around but it was for the greater good in his mind and what is being asked of him. Cowen has lost any and all benefit of the doubt at this point and it's about time you realize that. There's a reason he was sat for over 2 weeks straight, that's how bad his game is/was and that's what they think of him at this point.
It wasn't a stupid play because it worked, team was flat and despite the goal it got things going.
LeCaptain wrote:tim1_2 wrote:SpezDispensed wrote:Can't stop thinking about that kid line. Hoffman is a perfect compliment to stone and lazar. Future rock solid third line?
Could be a near-future 2nd line if they keep playing like they did last night.
I'll wait til I see them on the road. Pmac kept putting them against the Hawks' 3rd D pairing and that gives a pretty huge advantage.
LeCaptain wrote:Who cares about shootouts, we should make the playoffs even if we lose all of them otherwise we shouldn't be there.
wprager wrote:LeCaptain wrote:tim1_2 wrote:SpezDispensed wrote:Can't stop thinking about that kid line. Hoffman is a perfect compliment to stone and lazar. Future rock solid third line?
Could be a near-future 2nd line if they keep playing like they did last night.
I'll wait til I see them on the road. Pmac kept putting them against the Hawks' 3rd D pairing and that gives a pretty huge advantage.
Someone's gotta play against the 3rd pairing. You think on the road the other coach will be putting his third pairing guys against Turris or Zibanejad?
Ev wrote:shootouts are a coin flip
LeCaptain wrote:wprager wrote:LeCaptain wrote:tim1_2 wrote:SpezDispensed wrote:Can't stop thinking about that kid line. Hoffman is a perfect compliment to stone and lazar. Future rock solid third line?
Could be a near-future 2nd line if they keep playing like they did last night.
I'll wait til I see them on the road. Pmac kept putting them against the Hawks' 3rd D pairing and that gives a pretty huge advantage.
Someone's gotta play against the 3rd pairing. You think on the road the other coach will be putting his third pairing guys against Turris or Zibanejad?
The discussion was about the kid line becoming a 2nd line for us in the near future. Are you following the debate now?
wprager wrote:tim1_2 wrote:Interesting move by P-Mac, putting ZBad out there late when we needed a goal...and did it ever pay off. Zibanejad looked pretty relieved too.
And yeah, I forgot to mention the kid line...really impressive. The cool thing about that line is it provides us a legit threat as a 3rd line, without taking away any of the primary "top 6" forwards we have (Turris, Ryan, MacArthur, Chiasson)...if we can keep that kid line together, that'd be sweet.
Too bad he didn't put him out even later, when they still needed a goal. The key to Ryan's game -- at least his goal scoring -- is his quick release. Perfect example last night. The puck was off the Chicago player's stick for a millisecond and WHAM! Bobby scores. Players like that sometimes don't do well in shootouts because that element of surprised just isn't there.
Zibanejad, on the other hand, scored already this year and it was an excellent shot, IIRC. Last year he was 50%. Turris, although that was a poor attempt, was 1 for 1 coming in and was 50% last year. Chiasson was 0 for 1 and was 20% last year. So I really don't get it. Turris, sure, not very good this time but history on his side. Chiasson, historically not very good. Ryan was 0 for 4 last season and is not 0 for 5 as a Sen. So why not go with a guy that scored a goal already and is above 50% over last couple of seasons? Stone has also shown some really good hands close in.
Michallica wrote:Zbad is our best shootout guy AINEC. I think he should have been in there.
tim1_2 wrote:Michallica wrote:Zbad is our best shootout guy AINEC. I think he should have been in there.
I have no idea what "AINEC" means. I ordinarily would have picked ZBad, but with his struggles of late, I wouldn't have picked him for the initial 3 shooters. Maybe the 5th or 6th.
NEELY wrote:Sens have been fine in the shootout... last night literally every guy tried to go 5 hole because every goal buddy let in was 5 hole. It's also the reason he hasn't seen an NHL game up until this point, he moves and there is a giant spot to put the puck. Nothing wrong with the guys they chose last night.
SpezDispensed wrote:It wasn't the best shoot out performance considering darling was ripe to be beaten.
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