All Senators moves on July 1st!

Surprise -- Hemsky to Dallas.

NEELY wrote:I don't think the term or money was awful.  

In what world is a 40-point tweener worth $5.5 mil / yr?

rooneypoo wrote:

NEELY wrote:I don't think the term or money was awful.  

In what world is a 40-point tweener worth $5.5 mil / yr?

When healthy he is the best 3rd line centre in the league and a top PK guy. He can play 2nd line centre when needed for short periods of time. He is a winner and a leader. Disregard the stats just like you do with Spezza's points.

Hoags wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:

Hoags wrote:Cussing hell I thought we'd get rid of all of the LTIR line, ended up keeping 1/3 and its the guy who only put up points playing with Spezza.

Let's be real, Michalek is a better player than Pouliot.

Says a lot of good things about OTT that he wants to come back, too. Good to have a vet presence also.

I don't think he is better anymore, his knee is always basically injured and he's only really produced with Spezza.

It sounds like they struck out on guys like Pouliot and Jokinen so they went back to 9MM.

He scored 20+ goals in his last three seasons with the Sharks. After the break he had 7 goals in 23 games, which is a 25-goal pace. He played all 82 games last season, plus the Olympics. Don't know if he can repeat that level of success without Spezza, of course, but being healthy and fit and ready to go from day one is not going to hurt his chances.

Plus the guy truly wanted to play here and took a discount to sign. He's not "Phillips" yet so I am very happy about this signing. I'll say right now that he will put up 20+ goals and will teach Zibanejad much better lessons than Spezza would have.

Sens are being built with size, speed, and depth. Every team who wants to win has all 3.

Oglethorpe wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:

NEELY wrote:I don't think the term or money was awful.  

In what world is a 40-point tweener worth $5.5 mil / yr?

When healthy he is the best 3rd line centre in the league and a top PK guy.  He can play 2nd line centre when needed for short periods of time.  He is a winner and a leader.  Disregard the stats just like you do with Spezza's points.

$5.5 mil for the best third line centre in the league. F'ing ouch.

NEELY wrote:Sens also have a ton of cap space and budget left.  I like where the Sens are going with this.

Liking where they are going and not liking the return on Spezza are not mutually exclusive. That was a poor return.

I love the Michalek signing. Low risk, yesterday I predicted he'd sign here for 14M over 3 years, so a little less than I expected. I think he will produce at the same rate or better without Spezza. I didn't really see Spezza helping MM like he helped a Heatley.

rooneypoo wrote:

Oglethorpe wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:

NEELY wrote:I don't think the term or money was awful.  

In what world is a 40-point tweener worth $5.5 mil / yr?

When healthy he is the best 3rd line centre in the league and a top PK guy.  He can play 2nd line centre when needed for short periods of time.  He is a winner and a leader.  Disregard the stats just like you do with Spezza's points.

$5.5 mil for the best third line centre in the league. F'ing ouch.

Just wait until next year when the 10-11M contracts start coming in for 1st line players, even those who aren't elite.

So...we're doing nothing?

wprager wrote:

NEELY wrote:Sens also have a ton of cap space and budget left.  I like where the Sens are going with this.

Liking where they are going and not liking the return on Spezza are not mutually exclusive.  That was a poor return.

Well see how the prospects turn out... if you are talking about a straight up swap of Spezzza of Chiasson then yah, it was weak.... but it wasn't.

Chiasson, solid PF that has a chance to break out in Ottawa.
Prospects are both promising and have size and offensive abilities.
2nd round pick in 2015 is solid.

SpezDispenser wrote:So...we're doing nothing?

It's been 2 hours and the Sens have traded Spezza and resigned Michalek, lol. High standards.

NEELY wrote:Sens are being built with size, speed, and depth.  Every team who wants to win has all 3.

You are right on that.

Sens fans love to complain.

I hate losing Spezza as you know.. but it was something that had to be done.

Go younger, go bigger and a really good draft coming in 2015.

It's all about 4 solid lines who play the same way, size on the wings, talent and 200 foot players in the middle, and depth on the blueline with guys who have particular roles... also goaltending.

Sens have done what needed to be done and now there is another big signing or trade coming.

NEELY wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:So...we're doing nothing?

It's been 2 hours and the Sens have traded Spezza and resigned Michalek, lol.  High standards.

Spezza trade was inevitable, Michalek coming back is nice, but we all know we need a top scoring winger. And a Ryan extension

sandysensfan wrote:

NEELY wrote:Sens are being built with size, speed, and depth.  Every team who wants to win has all 3.

You are right on that.

Sens fans love to complain.

I hate losing Spezza as you know.. but it was something that had to be done.

Go younger, go bigger and a really good draft coming in 2015.

Spezza is 6'3" 220; Chiasson is 6'3" 206. We got younger, yes, but not bigger, not yet.

Unless you're talking about Da Costa and Conacher (and I still think there's a good chance Pageau gets moved).

Damn, I wish I knew more about Chiasson because the stats say very little. Does he hit? Does he kill penalties? Is he fast?

The other two guys are 2-3 years away at best. 2nd rounder in 2015, even longer.

Sorry, really hard to get excited other than finally getting over it and, of course, Michalek. Although that's not so much excitement as relief, maybe.

wprager wrote:

sandysensfan wrote:

NEELY wrote:Sens are being built with size, speed, and depth.  Every team who wants to win has all 3.

You are right on that.

Sens fans love to complain.

I hate losing Spezza as you know.. but it was something that had to be done.

Go younger, go bigger and a really good draft coming in 2015.

Spezza is 6'3" 220; Chiasson is 6'3" 206.  We got younger, yes, but not bigger, not yet.

Unless you're talking about Da Costa and Conacher (and I still think there's a good chance Pageau gets moved).  

Damn, I wish I knew more about Chiasson because the stats say very little.  Does he hit?  Does he kill penalties?  Is he fast?

The other two guys are 2-3 years away at best.  2nd rounder in 2015, even longer.

Sorry, really hard to get excited other than finally getting over it and, of course, Michalek.  Although that's not so much excitement as relief, maybe.

Spezza plays like he weighs 150 pounds.

Chiasson is a fast, big player who got to develop in college... can score the ugly goals and has the potential to be a 25-30 goal guy. He's done nothing but play well at the NHL level and all well before the age of 25.