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241Ottawa Senators TIDBITS & QUICK HITS! - Page 17 Empty Re: Ottawa Senators TIDBITS & QUICK HITS! Mon Sep 30, 2013 12:36 pm

tim1_2


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No waivers for Z-Bad...that's what made the decision.

As predicted here by some, and not by others, Ottawa will not have a 23-man roster.

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Ev wrote:Zibby to Bingo? Diddle Da Costa
Nope, reward the guys who look good.
Kid gotta understand he has to impress.

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You reward a guy who looks good against scrubs over a guy who looked good in real NHL games and the playoffs?

Nothing to do with anything but waivers. Diddle Da Costa and Kassian.

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I kinda disagree with the move as I don't think Mika was outplayed by Pageau or DaCosta, as really outflanked. Da Costa has 2 points in 5 games playing with the likes of Ryan and Michalek. Zibanejad has 1 point in 4 games, the 1 point was a beauty goal he scored when he got moved up away from #14 and #22.

Not that either one had stats worth talking about.


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tim1_2 wrote:No waivers for Z-Bad...that's what made the decision.  

As predicted here by some, and not by others, Ottawa will not have a 23-man roster.
Um...no. Pageau doesn't need waivers either.
Zibby didn't force management's hands to keep him on the roster.

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tim1_2 wrote:No waivers for Z-Bad...that's what made the decision.  

As predicted here by some, and not by others, Ottawa will not have a 23-man roster.
Not surprising.

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LeKing wrote:
tim1_2 wrote:No waivers for Z-Bad...that's what made the decision.  

As predicted here by some, and not by others, Ottawa will not have a 23-man roster.
Um...no. Pageau doesn't need waivers either.
Zibby didn't force management's hands to keep him on the roster.
Neither did Da Costa. I don't buy that we has better. Kassian either.

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LeKing wrote:
tim1_2 wrote:No waivers for Z-Bad...that's what made the decision.  

As predicted here by some, and not by others, Ottawa will not have a 23-man roster.
Um...no. Pageau doesn't need waivers either.
Zibby didn't force management's hands to keep him on the roster.
It's partially that. Melnyk doesn't want to carry 23. Da Costa is being showcased and until there is a trade he is in the lineup. Meanwhile Zibanejad will be playing big minutes in Bingo as a center. It sucks for him from a financial p.o.v. but it is what it is.


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But the real question is: What would Magnum do?


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tim1_2

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LeKing wrote:
tim1_2 wrote:No waivers for Z-Bad...that's what made the decision.  

As predicted here by some, and not by others, Ottawa will not have a 23-man roster.
Um...no. Pageau doesn't need waivers either.
Zibby didn't force management's hands to keep him on the roster.
Yes, I realize Pageau is also waiver-exempt. Pageau has been awesome since game #1 in the NHL, Mika not so much. One of 'em was going to be sent down. He'll get lots of playing time, and Eugene will save some money!

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This makes me feel a bit uneasy:

Steve Lloyd ‏@TSNSteveLloyd 5m

We asked Paul Maclean about Zibanejad. Basically said B. Murray will make roster announcements later. But we can confirm Zbad is AHL bound.
Don't know about you, but it sounds like MacLean wants to distance himself from this decision.


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tim1_2 wrote:
LeKing wrote:
tim1_2 wrote:No waivers for Z-Bad...that's what made the decision.  

As predicted here by some, and not by others, Ottawa will not have a 23-man roster.
Um...no. Pageau doesn't need waivers either.
Zibby didn't force management's hands to keep him on the roster.
Yes, I realize Pageau is also waiver-exempt.  Pageau has been awesome since game #1 in the NHL, Mika not so much.  One of 'em was going to be sent down.  He'll get lots of playing time, and Eugene will save some money!
They weren't going to give away DaCosta via waiver so it was either Pageau or Zibanejad. Just like I said, as usual.

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It's win-win-win! We keep Pageau, Z-Bad gets to light up the AHL, and The Euge saves some coin!!!!!

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Ev wrote:You reward a guy who looks good against scrubs over a guy who looked good in real NHL games and the playoffs?

Nothing to do with anything but waivers. Diddle Da Costa and Kassian.
Zibanejad had an awful camp by all accounts and they were very unimpressed with the work he put in. Da Costa did the work, looked better, and got Zibanejad's spot. Might want to stop spinning at night clubs and put some work in off the ice.

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tim1_2 wrote:No waivers for Z-Bad...that's what made the decision.  

As predicted here by some, and not by others, Ottawa will not have a 23-man roster.
Didn't see this one coming but probably a good call on their part.

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What an odd decision.  Zbad is clearly better than Da Costa.  So strange...at least Zbad didn't help save the season last year when all the injuries piled up.  Oh wait...

Unless he came in out if shape. But it didn't appear that way.

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wprager wrote:This makes me feel a bit uneasy:

Steve Lloyd ‏@TSNSteveLloyd 5m

We asked Paul Maclean about Zibanejad. Basically said B. Murray will make roster announcements later. But we can confirm Zbad is AHL bound.
Don't know about you, but it sounds like MacLean wants to distance himself from this decision.  
MacLean is playing ball like any coach should. No big deal.

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Ev

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NEELY wrote:
Ev wrote:You reward a guy who looks good against scrubs over a guy who looked good in real NHL games and the playoffs?

Nothing to do with anything but waivers. Diddle Da Costa and Kassian.
Zibanejad had an awful camp by all accounts and they were very unimpressed with the work he put in.  Da Costa did the work, looked better, and got Zibanejad's spot.  Might want to stop spinning at night clubs and put some work in off the ice.  
Da Costa didn't look better in my eyes. He would be in the AHL today if he was waiver exempt.

Saying Zibanejad had an awful camp is just wrong. He came into camp in great shape and does all the work. I don't mind him getting sent down but Da Costa is not a better player at the moment.

and I doubt they were very unimpressed with the work he put in. That's nothing but speculation on your end.

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