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Ev wrote:

tim1_2 wrote:Good, extensive off-season plan written by Scott Cullen: http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=425977

He has us adding Pascal Dupuis, and that' it.

That would be horrible. Guy is going to get paid. If we added him and Dupuis though our wings are upgraded

Do you mean if we add Briere and Dupuis?

NEELY wrote:Ugh, Dupuis... adding a 35 year old coming off a career year is never a good idea.

It wouldn't be a great add...his career high in goals is 25, and that was playing 82 games with Crosby. And yeah, he's going to get overpaid. It wouldn't be the worst move in the world, and adding him AND Briere gives us tons of flexibility...but yeah, it should be a Plan D or E.

May as well add Matt Cullen for 1/2 the price and the same production and role.

NEELY wrote:Apparently Nieneridder has asked for a trade again... there's a player Ottawa should be going balls to the walls for.  That is 100% the type of forward the Sens are lacking right now and 100% the type of move they need to make.  He may take a couple more years to turn into a dominate type player but when he's full grown and understands the NHL game he's going to be a legit power forward that will be very tough to stop.

If you can trade Mark Stone straight up for that guy you do it even if you have to add in a pick or two in the mid rounds.  Wouldn't be surprised to see the kid dealt to LA for Bernier though, NYI needs a goaltender going into next season unless TT comes back which I highly doubt.

I don't know what to make of Niederreiter. His AHL #s aren't too hot. I did really like him coming out of junior, though.

He's been great at international tournaments too... maybe he's just a guy that needs good players around him but he's got the makeup of a solid NHLer and top 6 forward.  He won't be going back to NYI, that's for sure.

NEELY wrote:He's been great at international tournaments too... maybe he's just a guy that needs good players around him but he's got the makeup of a solid NHLer and top 6 forward.  He won't be going back to NYI, that's for sure.

He's past the point of no return there with his latest trade demands for sure. Problem is, he'd probably still have to play in the AHL, wouldn't he?

He could make the Sens out of camp for sure, don't see any reason why he wouldn't be pushing for a spot but at the same time if Murray and the Sens don't believe that's a guy ready for the NHL then you are not making that move... reeks of Filatov.

NEELY wrote:He could make the Sens out of camp for sure, don't see any reason why he wouldn't be pushing for a spot but at the same time if Murray and the Sens don't believe that's a guy ready for the NHL then you are not making that move... reeks of Filatov.

http://www.forecaster.ca/hockeynews/hockey/player.php?7925

Shoots first, asks questions later.



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SeawaySensFan wrote:

NEELY wrote:He could make the Sens out of camp for sure, don't see any reason why he wouldn't be pushing for a spot but at the same time if Murray and the Sens don't believe that's a guy ready for the NHL then you are not making that move... reeks of Filatov.

http://www.forecaster.ca/hockeynews/hockey/player.php?7925

Shoots first, asks questions later.



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Quickly now, if sens don't have the player they want at 17th overall, do you deal that pick for El Nino? A precedence was set in 2010 with Rundblad remember....

SeawaySensFan wrote:

NEELY wrote:He could make the Sens out of camp for sure, don't see any reason why he wouldn't be pushing for a spot but at the same time if Murray and the Sens don't believe that's a guy ready for the NHL then you are not making that move... reeks of Filatov.

http://www.forecaster.ca/hockeynews/hockey/player.php?7925

Shoots first, asks questions later.

Also, he has a mean streak and can play either wing...make it happen murry.

probably not, no... not if they feel he isn;t NHL ready.  They made the deal for Turris because they knew he was NHL ready and fit the need of the organization.   Filatov was an example of taking a shot and hoping for the best but that didn't work out because the Sens didn't think he was NHL ready and needed time in the AHL which he didn't want any part of.  If Niederrider isn't NHL ready or the Sens don't feel he is NHL ready it's just the Filatov situation all over again... if they think he is NHL ready and are going to let him play in the NHL even if other prospects are knocking on the door then make the move.

It isn't anything like Rundblad because he was in the SEL, developing, and was perfectly fine and happy playing in Sweden.  Neiderrider isn't anything like that for the simple fact he wants to be in the NHL and won't be happy otherwise... the team doesn't need that.  If it's a Turris situation (which it isn't) then give it a whirl.  Fact is Turris had an outstanding playoff the year before being moved and was bogged down by a trap first, play the vets type of team.

They mentioned on the radio this morning that Neiderreiter just wants out of the org. He was unhappy because they made him play majority of his rookie year with the big club and then for training camp they didn't even include him in the short list. I heard he did pretty well in the AHL, so it might just be a case where he's pissed off with the way he was treated and just wants to get away from the Islanders. That said, the isles must have thought he's not nhl ready so not sure he'll fit the bill

you easily move 17th for Nino

Ev wrote:you easily move 17th for Nino

I think I would too. Whether he's NHL ready or not, if sens don't have the player they want, why not make that deal? May need to add to it though.

Michallica wrote:

Ev wrote:you easily move 17th for Nino

I think I would too.  Whether he's NHL ready or not, if sens don't have the player they want, why not make that deal? May need to add to it though.

I don't see why him being NHL ready would be a factor since the 17th pick will not be NHL ready. Rundbald wasn't NHL ready. I too agree that it would take more than a 17th to nab him.

Ev wrote:you easily move 17th for Nino

What if they don't think he will be anything more than a 3rd line winger?  It's not as easy as saying "yah, you make that trade".  If they like him and want him then sure, make it right away because chances are you will not get a player like him with the 17th... but if they think it will be an issue having him in the organization they why would you trade it?

Fact is I think it's more likely they deal a guy like Stone instead of the pick.

Ev wrote:

Michallica wrote:

Ev wrote:you easily move 17th for Nino

I think I would too.  Whether he's NHL ready or not, if sens don't have the player they want, why not make that deal? May need to add to it though.

I don't see why him being NHL ready would be a factor since the 17th pick will not be NHL ready. Rundbald wasn't NHL ready. I too agree that it would take more than a 17th to nab him.

Filatov wasn't NHL ready and basically refused to play in the AHL... what if it's the same deal? Again, it's not black and white.  Rundblad was happy playing in Sweden.

What do we need with another forward prospect with zero NHL success?    I think we're passed that, we need a goal scoring forward, not another project.