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http://www.p4c.philips.com/cgi-bin/cpindex.pl?ctn=46PFL8606K/02&dct=FAQ&faqview=1&refdisplay=UP_A_TV543_CONNECTSTATUS_72532&refnr=0072532&scy=LV&slg=AEN

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it's insane how brutal the wireless is on PS3...it took 9 hours to download The Last of Us (which I hated, but that's a different story)

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Ev wrote:it's insane how brutal the wireless is on PS3...it took 9 hours to download The Last of Us (which I hated, but that's a different story)
I stream Netflix HD content on my PS3 and haven't had issues.

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Looks like I'll be contacting Philips if I want Internet connected to my TV via WiFi.

I have an IP address for the device when I check network settings and it's not a distance issue because my laptop works fine from the same distance.


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Ev wrote:it's insane how brutal the wireless is on PS3...it took 9 hours to download The Last of Us (which I hated, but that's a different story)
Wireless signals are inherently unreliable. There's so many factors that play into connectivity, chief among them is distance to your router. It actually isn't that difficult to run ethernet cables through a house if you get a little creative.

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Cap'n Clutch wrote:Looks like I'll be contacting Philips if I want Internet connected to my TV via WiFi.

I have an IP address for the device when I check network settings and it's not a distance issue because my laptop works fine from the same distance.
"...because my laptop ..." isn't remotely close to proof. Every device is different.

However you said it connects to your router but just doesn't get access to the internet. So it's not a signal issue.


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tim1_2 wrote:
Ev wrote:it's insane how brutal the wireless is on PS3...it took 9 hours to download The Last of Us (which I hated, but that's a different story)
Wireless signals are inherently unreliable.  There's so many factors that play into connectivity, chief among them is distance to your router.  It actually isn't that difficult to run ethernet cables through a house if you get a little creative.  
Powerline ethernet is another possibility.


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wprager wrote:
tim1_2 wrote:
Ev wrote:it's insane how brutal the wireless is on PS3...it took 9 hours to download The Last of Us (which I hated, but that's a different story)
Wireless signals are inherently unreliable.  There's so many factors that play into connectivity, chief among them is distance to your router.  It actually isn't that difficult to run ethernet cables through a house if you get a little creative.  
Powerline ethernet is another possibility.
How does this work?

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wprager wrote:
Cap'n Clutch wrote:Looks like I'll be contacting Philips if I want Internet connected to my TV via WiFi.

I have an IP address for the device when I check network settings and it's not a distance issue because my laptop works fine from the same distance.
"...because my laptop ..." isn't remotely close to proof.  Every device is different.

However you said it connects to your router but just doesn't get access to the internet.  So it's not a signal issue.
So connecting to an Ethernet cable isn't going to resolve this issue then?


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Cap'n Clutch wrote:
wprager wrote:
Cap'n Clutch wrote:Looks like I'll be contacting Philips if I want Internet connected to my TV via WiFi.

I have an IP address for the device when I check network settings and it's not a distance issue because my laptop works fine from the same distance.
"...because my laptop ..." isn't remotely close to proof.  Every device is different.

However you said it connects to your router but just doesn't get access to the internet.  So it's not a signal issue.
So connecting to an Ethernet cable isn't going to resolve this issue then?
Saying it's not a signal issue doesn't mean it's not a different wireless issue.

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To be honest I could not possibly care less the reason for the issue as long as it's resolved. If plugging it in with an Ethernet cable fixes it it's an easy fix and the wife has already said she'd prefer the modem upstairs anyway. If it fixes it because Gremlins were hexing the WiFi signals or if it's something real I don't care.


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Cap'n Clutch wrote:To be honest I could not possibly care less the reason for the issue as long as it's resolved. If plugging it in with an Ethernet cable fixes it it's an easy fix and the wife has already said she'd prefer the modem upstairs anyway. If it fixes it because Gremlins were hexing the WiFi signals or if it's something real I don't care.
Well then give that a go!

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Found this on another forum and if you swap out Philips for Samsung it sounds like my problem. It looks like Ethernet cable will provide me with the least intense head ache of all.




« on 15/03/2012, 09:29 »
I have a new Samsung D6100 smart tv which I'm trying to connect to the internet via a wifi dongle. In setup it connects to the router but not the internet. All other devices connect fine including: Wii, laptop, etc

when I log into the router (Thomson 585v8) I can see the mac address of the TV/dongle and I've tried to ping the tv and sometimes nothing and other times I get a 50% loss.

I've tried the auto setup which lets it assign IP/DNS settings but this didn't work, so I tried setting my own, but can't get that to work either

IP 192.168.1.64
Subnet 255.255.255.0
Gateway 192.168.1.254
DNS 212.159.6.9

The TV setup says "Local connection is completed. But cannot connect to the Internet. Check the DNS setting from Network Setting and contact your Internet service provider to use Internet service."

The following is from the e-Manual:

"If Your TV Fails to Connect to the Internet
Your TV may not be able to connect to the Internet because your ISP has permanently registered the MAC address (a unique identifying number) of your PC or modem, which it then authenticates each time you connect to the Internet as a way of preventing unauthorized access. As your TV has a different MAC address, your ISP can not authenticate its MAC address, and your TV can not connect. To resolve this problem, ask your ISP about the procedures required to connect devices other than a PC (such as your TV) to the Internet. If your Internet service provider requires an ID or password to connect to the Internet, your TV may not be able to connect to the Internet. If this is the case, you must enter your ID or
password when connecting to the Internet. The internet connection may fail because of a firewall problem. If this is the case, contact your Internet service provider. If you cannot connect to the Internet even after you have followed the procedures of your Internet service provider, please contact Samsung Electronics"


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Ev wrote:
wprager wrote:
tim1_2 wrote:
Ev wrote:it's insane how brutal the wireless is on PS3...it took 9 hours to download The Last of Us (which I hated, but that's a different story)
Wireless signals are inherently unreliable.  There's so many factors that play into connectivity, chief among them is distance to your router.  It actually isn't that difficult to run ethernet cables through a house if you get a little creative.  
Powerline ethernet is another possibility.
How does this work?
They use your home's electrical lines as a shared-medium. You get adapters that plug into the electrical sockets and give you an ethernet jack. Plug one of them to an ethernet port on your router, another one to the ethernet port on your device.

They are not very reliable depending on the quality of your wiring.


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Cap'n Clutch wrote:
wprager wrote:
Cap'n Clutch wrote:Looks like I'll be contacting Philips if I want Internet connected to my TV via WiFi.

I have an IP address for the device when I check network settings and it's not a distance issue because my laptop works fine from the same distance.
"...because my laptop ..." isn't remotely close to proof.  Every device is different.

However you said it connects to your router but just doesn't get access to the internet.  So it's not a signal issue.
So connecting to an Ethernet cable isn't going to resolve this issue then?
No idea Smile


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Cap'n Clutch wrote:Found this on another forum and if you swap out Philips for Samsung it sounds like my problem.  It looks like Ethernet cable will provide me with the least intense head ache of all.




« on 15/03/2012, 09:29 »
I have a new Samsung D6100 smart tv which I'm trying to connect to the internet via a wifi dongle. In setup it connects to the router but not the internet. All other devices connect fine including: Wii, laptop, etc

when I log into the router (Thomson 585v8)  I can see the mac address of the TV/dongle and I've tried to ping the tv and sometimes nothing and other times I get a 50% loss.

I've tried the auto setup which lets it assign IP/DNS settings but this didn't work, so I tried setting my own, but can't get that to work either

IP 192.168.1.64
Subnet 255.255.255.0
Gateway 192.168.1.254
DNS 212.159.6.9

The TV setup says "Local connection is completed. But cannot connect to the Internet. Check the DNS setting from Network Setting and contact your Internet service provider to use Internet service."

The following is from the e-Manual:
 
"If Your TV Fails to Connect to the Internet
Your TV may not be able to connect to the Internet because your ISP has permanently registered the MAC address (a unique identifying number) of your PC or modem, which it then authenticates each time you connect to the Internet as a way of preventing unauthorized access. As your TV has a different MAC address, your ISP can not authenticate its MAC address, and your TV can not connect. To resolve this problem, ask your ISP about the procedures required to connect devices other than a PC (such as your TV) to the Internet. If your Internet service provider requires an ID or password to connect to the Internet, your TV may not be able to connect to the Internet. If this is the case, you must enter your ID or
password when connecting to the Internet. The internet connection may fail because of a firewall problem. If this is the case, contact your Internet service provider. If you cannot connect to the Internet even after you have followed the procedures of your Internet service provider, please contact Samsung Electronics"

Sorry but does it say anywhere that using a wired connection resolved his problem?

Also, the part from the manual about your ISP doing MAC address access control is a little ridiculous.

What is your wireless router manufacturer/model? I assume you have more than one device already connected to it, right? Did you check the DHCP settings to make sure the IP range has room for your TV? For example, early on I used to set my range quite narrow so that I could only connect the devices I had (thinking that would prevent someone else leaching my connection -- yeah, not my best idea).


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wired connection works fine.


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Cap'n Clutch wrote:wired connection works fine.
Wired, how that works out, eh? Sarcasm 


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