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wprager wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:

wprager wrote:According to "NHLSourcesSay" Mike Green has declined the Caps' $5M QO.

NHLSourcesSay is some guy without sources, but... that would LOL hilarious if true. What has Mike Green done in the last three years to merit anything more than, I dunno, $2 mil / yr, & on a short deal to boot?

He may not have sources but apparently has more time than I do. He's been right more than wrong so I assume he is just reading a lot of other sources. His "big wrong" this off-season was Parise to the Penguins. Shortly after that fell through I saw another tweet (not him) saying how Crosby was pissed off and will never speak to him again (apparently they are/were good friends and Parise said he was coming).

The Name Dropper also said it was all but a done deal prior to the draft.

The Score is mentioning this as well...

http://www.thescore.com/home/articles/303230-report-mike-green-turns-down-capitals-offer

He remains an RFA apparently... McPhee is hoping a deal can still be worked out...

Yeah I believe all a team has to do is qualify the player, and thus retains his rights. By refusing, he remains their property, and if he holds out past Dec. 1, he is ineligible to play the season.

His last contract was a 4 year $21M baby... he must be looking for a raise...

His salary last season was $5M. So the QO matched it as per the rules.

If Green is looking for a raise I am sure he will get it from the Oilers. Carlson is a better player than Green already.

shabbs wrote:His last contract was a 4 year $21M baby... he must be looking for a raise...

Getting a raise is a pretty straightforward, reasonable expectation for most players. No matter how they perform. Except if you're Chris Neil and the owner of your team is Gene "The Miser" Melnyk.

You have to earn your contracts and raises, not get them because you are entitled to a raise.

Riprock wrote:You have to earn your contracts and raises, not get them because you are entitled to a raise.

Maybe in the real world. Not so much in pro sports.

I disagree as a whole, but do acknowledge that often a player will get a raise, regardless, one way or another, by some team.

Teams have no problems walking away from a player who fails to live up to their end.

Riprock wrote:I disagree as a whole, but do acknowledge that often a player will get a raise, regardless, one way or another, by some team.

Teams have no problems walking away from a player who fails to live up to their end.

Specially the cheap ones.

Not just the "cheap ones".

The smart ones. Why would Ottawa have paid Kuba what Florida did?

Riprock wrote:Not just the "cheap ones".

The smart ones. Why would Ottawa have paid Kuba what Florida did?

They should have brought a decent replacement. Foligno was just about to get paid too. That's the real reason he's gone.

Ottawa took on Columbus' bottom pairing $3M d-man for a uy they are paying like a top 6.

People need to remember that his QO was also a 1 year offer. That's probably more along the lines of what he turned down, not the cash.

Riprock wrote:Ottawa took on Columbus' bottom pairing $3M d-man for a uy they are paying like a top 6.

Still less than Kuba was getting paid. The only moves I've seen so far are about thrift and nothing else.

Riprock wrote:Ottawa took on Columbus' bottom pairing $3M d-man for a uy they are paying like a top 6.

Ok, that's simply not true. Get it right. He plays top 4 mins and the only reason Columbus moved him is because they have too much tied up on the back end and not enough talent up front. Methot isn't a bottom pairing D man and people who keep saying this really need to educate themselves about the type of player he is, the role he will succeed in, and what he brings as a whole.

Ottawa traded a 3rd line forward for a top 4 D man, probably top 2 considering he will be paired with Karlsson. See how you can swing it?

It's a trade that made on a ton of sense for both parties, no question asked.

He was 5th among their defenceman in TOI and 4th in shifts/game.

And I have read enough Columbus fans opinions that he was not integral to their team.

He was expendable because he was overpaid and they had younger, cheaper guys who were pushing him down the chart.

Riprock wrote:He was 5th among their defenceman in TOI and 4th in shifts/game.

And I have read enough Columbus fans opinions that he was not integral to their team.

He was expendable because he was overpaid and they had younger, cheaper guys who were pushing him down the chart.

Oh yah, because Wiznewski isn't the big mistake they had on that blueline right? If they could give up Wiznewski or Methot, who do you think they would have gotten rid of?

I don't care what their fans say, I watched enough Columbus games over the past few years to know exactly where Methot stands in terms of their defence at the time. He was a top 4 guy, simple as that. For a defensive D man on an awful team, he was pretty good.

He was injured most of last season anyways so how anyone can jump to the conclusion that he wasn't a top 4 guy there is unreal. Where was he before they brought in Johnson and Wiznewski? Oh yah, the top 4.

Maybe instead of reading what other people think, watch some games yourself. I'm not ripping on you, I'm ripping on anyone that forms their own personal opinion based on someone elses personal opinion. Watch the frigging game(s).