New Sens Logo/Jersey

SpezDispenser wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:
No, I keep forgetting -- Os and 0s don't look anything alike. It's highly unlikely that the fans of 29 other teams and a hostile media won't have the capacity to connect those two radically different symbols in ways that demean the organization.

It's only an alternative logo on the 3rd sweater. Honestly, if dumbass fans around the league want to make fun of it, then Diddle them all. It'll be fine.

The easier route to go would be to set yourself up NOT to fail, wouldn't it?

Big Ev wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:
No, I keep forgetting -- Os and 0s don't look anything alike. It's highly unlikely that the fans of 29 other teams and a hostile media won't have the capacity to connect those two radically different symbols in ways that demean the organization.

It's only an alternative logo on the 3rd sweater. Honestly, if dumbass fans around the league want to make fun of it, then Diddle them all. It'll be fine.

:KKK: Better than SENS

True, just about anything is better than the SNES logo.

Big Ev wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:

Big Ev wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:

Big Ev wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:@6thSens @silversevensens it's a fake shoulder patch - i saw it last night but didn't publish cuz not legit - ive seen real 1 - no O

There will be an O on the front of the jersey.

No decision, however stupid, will surprise me when it comes to this organization's PR, marketing, and design people, but with respect to the rumoured "0" jersey... I'll believe it (and despair) only when I see it.

Look at the teaser they have shown. It's pretty easy to see there will be an O on the front, and that's what the fans want. They are listening to the fans for a change.

It's the blind leading the blind. What they need is a real marketing / design team who knows what they're doing. I.e., professionals who know that big, naked, happy Spartans ranting incoherently for a full 2-3 minutes isn't a really good way to sell a hockey team.

The average, for any team, is generally stupid. Casual hockey fans in general are stupid when it comes to hockey. I trust their opinion on these matters even less than I do their hockey opinions.

So you're saying you're an expert on design and such?

PS That Spartan decision apparenlty came from the top.

I have a few friends who run a design company. All they do is laugh at the ineptness of the Sens marketing and design people -- and these are casual Ottawa Sens fans we're talking about here.

rooneypoo wrote:

Big Ev wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:

Big Ev wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:

Big Ev wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:@6thSens @silversevensens it's a fake shoulder patch - i saw it last night but didn't publish cuz not legit - ive seen real 1 - no O

There will be an O on the front of the jersey.

No decision, however stupid, will surprise me when it comes to this organization's PR, marketing, and design people, but with respect to the rumoured "0" jersey... I'll believe it (and despair) only when I see it.

Look at the teaser they have shown. It's pretty easy to see there will be an O on the front, and that's what the fans want. They are listening to the fans for a change.

It's the blind leading the blind. What they need is a real marketing / design team who knows what they're doing. I.e., professionals who know that big, naked, happy Spartans ranting incoherently for a full 2-3 minutes isn't a really good way to sell a hockey team.

The average, for any team, is generally stupid. Casual hockey fans in general are stupid when it comes to hockey. I trust their opinion on these matters even less than I do their hockey opinions.

So you're saying you're an expert on design and such?

PS That Spartan decision apparenlty came from the top.

I have a few friends who run a design company. All they do is laugh at the ineptness of the Sens marketing and design people -- and these are casual Ottawa Sens fans we're talking about here.

Are they experts because they run a design company?

rooneypoo wrote:
The easier route to go would be to set yourself up NOT to fail, wouldn't it?

Again, who cares what a few sad little Leaf fans think? I like it, it's a tribute to a previous Ottawa team that won many, many championships.

rooneypoo wrote:I have a few friends who run a design company. All they do is laugh at the ineptness of the Sens marketing and design people -- and these are casual Ottawa Sens fans we're talking about here.

I laugh too at the ineptness of people who work for the Senators and have jobs in pro hockey because they are inept and also because I'm envious of them.

rooneypoo wrote:

Big Ev wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:
No, I keep forgetting -- Os and 0s don't look anything alike. It's highly unlikely that the fans of 29 other teams and a hostile media won't have the capacity to connect those two radically different symbols in ways that demean the organization.

It's only an alternative logo on the 3rd sweater. Honestly, if dumbass fans around the league want to make fun of it, then Diddle them all. It'll be fine.

:KKK: Better than SENS

True, just about anything is better than the SNES logo.

Why do you always call it the SNES logo instead of the SENS logo? I'm missing something.

spader wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:

Big Ev wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:
No, I keep forgetting -- Os and 0s don't look anything alike. It's highly unlikely that the fans of 29 other teams and a hostile media won't have the capacity to connect those two radically different symbols in ways that demean the organization.

It's only an alternative logo on the 3rd sweater. Honestly, if dumbass fans around the league want to make fun of it, then Diddle them all. It'll be fine.

:KKK: Better than SENS

True, just about anything is better than the SNES logo.

Why do you always call it the SNES logo instead of the SENS logo? I'm missing something.

Super Nintendo Entertainment System.

Also, Logos fake http://www.icethetics.info/blog/2011/5/13/debunking-leaked-senators-logo.html

I always liked to think it was a subtle reference to "FIAL".

Big Ev wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:

Big Ev wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:

Big Ev wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:

Big Ev wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:@6thSens @silversevensens it's a fake shoulder patch - i saw it last night but didn't publish cuz not legit - ive seen real 1 - no O

There will be an O on the front of the jersey.

No decision, however stupid, will surprise me when it comes to this organization's PR, marketing, and design people, but with respect to the rumoured "0" jersey... I'll believe it (and despair) only when I see it.

Look at the teaser they have shown. It's pretty easy to see there will be an O on the front, and that's what the fans want. They are listening to the fans for a change.

It's the blind leading the blind. What they need is a real marketing / design team who knows what they're doing. I.e., professionals who know that big, naked, happy Spartans ranting incoherently for a full 2-3 minutes isn't a really good way to sell a hockey team.

The average, for any team, is generally stupid. Casual hockey fans in general are stupid when it comes to hockey. I trust their opinion on these matters even less than I do their hockey opinions.

So you're saying you're an expert on design and such?

PS That Spartan decision apparenlty came from the top.

I have a few friends who run a design company. All they do is laugh at the ineptness of the Sens marketing and design people -- and these are casual Ottawa Sens fans we're talking about here.

Are they experts because they run a design company?

Ummm... Yes. If design experts are experts at design, I don't know who is. This isn't your mom & pop show I'm talking about here.

Tuk Tuk wrote:

spader wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:

Big Ev wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:
No, I keep forgetting -- Os and 0s don't look anything alike. It's highly unlikely that the fans of 29 other teams and a hostile media won't have the capacity to connect those two radically different symbols in ways that demean the organization.

It's only an alternative logo on the 3rd sweater. Honestly, if dumbass fans around the league want to make fun of it, then Diddle them all. It'll be fine.

:KKK: Better than SENS

True, just about anything is better than the SNES logo.

Why do you always call it the SNES logo instead of the SENS logo? I'm missing something.

Super Nintendo Entertainment System.

Also, Logos fake http://www.icethetics.info/blog/2011/5/13/debunking-leaked-senators-logo.html

This.

rooneypoo wrote:

Tuk Tuk wrote:

spader wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:

Big Ev wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:
No, I keep forgetting -- Os and 0s don't look anything alike. It's highly unlikely that the fans of 29 other teams and a hostile media won't have the capacity to connect those two radically different symbols in ways that demean the organization.

It's only an alternative logo on the 3rd sweater. Honestly, if dumbass fans around the league want to make fun of it, then Diddle them all. It'll be fine.

:KKK: Better than SENS

True, just about anything is better than the SNES logo.

Why do you always call it the SNES logo instead of the SENS logo? I'm missing something.

Super Nintendo Entertainment System.

Also, Logos fake http://www.icethetics.info/blog/2011/5/13/debunking-leaked-senators-logo.html

This.

Ha. I wasn't asking what it stood for (I grew up in the 80s...I'm very familiar with the game system). I'm asking why rooneypoo always insists on making that comparison. Literally every time he participates in a discussion that relates to the Sens marketing team, he throws in that joke. I don't get why. It reminds me of the people in the TSN comment threads that make up silly names for teams they don't like: Have-nots, Hens, Maple Laughs, etc. I just don't understand how the joke is worth pulling out every single time unless I'm missing something.

spader wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:

Tuk Tuk wrote:

spader wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:

Big Ev wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:
No, I keep forgetting -- Os and 0s don't look anything alike. It's highly unlikely that the fans of 29 other teams and a hostile media won't have the capacity to connect those two radically different symbols in ways that demean the organization.

It's only an alternative logo on the 3rd sweater. Honestly, if dumbass fans around the league want to make fun of it, then Diddle them all. It'll be fine.

:KKK: Better than SENS

True, just about anything is better than the SNES logo.

Why do you always call it the SNES logo instead of the SENS logo? I'm missing something.

Super Nintendo Entertainment System.

Also, Logos fake http://www.icethetics.info/blog/2011/5/13/debunking-leaked-senators-logo.html

This.

Ha. I wasn't asking what it stood for (I grew up in the 80s...I'm very familiar with the game system). I'm asking why rooneypoo always insists on making that comparison. Literally every time he participates in a discussion that relates to the Sens marketing team, he throws in that joke. I don't get why. It reminds me of the people in the TSN comment threads that make up silly names for teams they don't like: Have-nots, Hens, Maple Laughs, etc. I just don't understand how the joke is worth pulling out every single time unless I'm missing something.

Because I want to underscore how perfectly dreadful I think that jersey is?

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rooneypoo wrote:
Because I want to underscore how perfectly dreadful I think that jersey is?

Fair enough then. I figured that I was missing some extra significance. My bad.

rooneypoo wrote:

Big Ev wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:

Big Ev wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:

Big Ev wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:

Big Ev wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:@6thSens @silversevensens it's a fake shoulder patch - i saw it last night but didn't publish cuz not legit - ive seen real 1 - no O

There will be an O on the front of the jersey.

No decision, however stupid, will surprise me when it comes to this organization's PR, marketing, and design people, but with respect to the rumoured "0" jersey... I'll believe it (and despair) only when I see it.

Look at the teaser they have shown. It's pretty easy to see there will be an O on the front, and that's what the fans want. They are listening to the fans for a change.

It's the blind leading the blind. What they need is a real marketing / design team who knows what they're doing. I.e., professionals who know that big, naked, happy Spartans ranting incoherently for a full 2-3 minutes isn't a really good way to sell a hockey team.

The average, for any team, is generally stupid. Casual hockey fans in general are stupid when it comes to hockey. I trust their opinion on these matters even less than I do their hockey opinions.

So you're saying you're an expert on design and such?

PS That Spartan decision apparenlty came from the top.

I have a few friends who run a design company. All they do is laugh at the ineptness of the Sens marketing and design people -- and these are casual Ottawa Sens fans we're talking about here.

Are they experts because they run a design company?

Ummm... Yes. If design experts are experts at design, I don't know who is. This isn't your mom & pop show I'm talking about here.

Source?

Big Ev wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:

Big Ev wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:

Big Ev wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:

Big Ev wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:

Big Ev wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:@6thSens @silversevensens it's a fake shoulder patch - i saw it last night but didn't publish cuz not legit - ive seen real 1 - no O

There will be an O on the front of the jersey.

No decision, however stupid, will surprise me when it comes to this organization's PR, marketing, and design people, but with respect to the rumoured "0" jersey... I'll believe it (and despair) only when I see it.

Look at the teaser they have shown. It's pretty easy to see there will be an O on the front, and that's what the fans want. They are listening to the fans for a change.

It's the blind leading the blind. What they need is a real marketing / design team who knows what they're doing. I.e., professionals who know that big, naked, happy Spartans ranting incoherently for a full 2-3 minutes isn't a really good way to sell a hockey team.

The average, for any team, is generally stupid. Casual hockey fans in general are stupid when it comes to hockey. I trust their opinion on these matters even less than I do their hockey opinions.

So you're saying you're an expert on design and such?

PS That Spartan decision apparenlty came from the top.

I have a few friends who run a design company. All they do is laugh at the ineptness of the Sens marketing and design people -- and these are casual Ottawa Sens fans we're talking about here.

Are they experts because they run a design company?

Ummm... Yes. If design experts are experts at design, I don't know who is. This isn't your mom & pop show I'm talking about here.

Source?

Common sense?

rooneypoo wrote:

Big Ev wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:

Big Ev wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:

Big Ev wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:

Big Ev wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:

Big Ev wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:@6thSens @silversevensens it's a fake shoulder patch - i saw it last night but didn't publish cuz not legit - ive seen real 1 - no O

There will be an O on the front of the jersey.

No decision, however stupid, will surprise me when it comes to this organization's PR, marketing, and design people, but with respect to the rumoured "0" jersey... I'll believe it (and despair) only when I see it.

Look at the teaser they have shown. It's pretty easy to see there will be an O on the front, and that's what the fans want. They are listening to the fans for a change.

It's the blind leading the blind. What they need is a real marketing / design team who knows what they're doing. I.e., professionals who know that big, naked, happy Spartans ranting incoherently for a full 2-3 minutes isn't a really good way to sell a hockey team.

The average, for any team, is generally stupid. Casual hockey fans in general are stupid when it comes to hockey. I trust their opinion on these matters even less than I do their hockey opinions.

So you're saying you're an expert on design and such?

PS That Spartan decision apparenlty came from the top.

I have a few friends who run a design company. All they do is laugh at the ineptness of the Sens marketing and design people -- and these are casual Ottawa Sens fans we're talking about here.

Are they experts because they run a design company?

Ummm... Yes. If design experts are experts at design, I don't know who is. This isn't your mom & pop show I'm talking about here.

Source?

Common sense?

Confirmed!

Wow this is a lot of quoted posts!