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2011 NHL Draft Lottery - Tue. April 12th - 8:00pm EST

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Quotes from Guy Boucher (Couturier's first coach):

"He's not just a terrific athlete, but individual," Boucher told NHL.com. "He's first in his class at school with over a 90-percent average … he's an extremely bright hockey player. He sees the game at a slow pace like the top guys do, and his puck protection is incredible.

"You don't take the puck off of him. He's a big center who wins the faceoffs and is extremely reliable defensively. When he was 16, I had to push him to go offense because he wanted to be so reliable defensively. He has great vision and is slowly building up his speed … he's going to be a terrific NHL player."

Couturier won 54 percent of his 1,430 faceoffs during the regular season.

When told Couturier was rated No. 6 on Central Scouting's final list, Boucher offered his former protégé the following advice:

"Here's the thing, he has incredible puck protection along the boards, but he's just got to take that puck protection closer to the net. Sean is probably a better feeder; he's one of those guys who likes to dish the puck. If you do that enough, you forget how good you are at protecting pucks, finding pucks around the net and scoring. That would be my advice to him -- go to the net."

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NEELY wrote:Wow, people are just jumping off the cliff eh... there is literally no true number 1 pick in this draft. Strome has just as good of a chance as turning out as RNH. Couturier has just as good as a chance at turning out as Landeskog. There are safer picks than others but it's up in the air to say the least.

Also, if people think there won't be 2 or even 3 D men drafted before The Sens get a shot, they are mistaken. Larsson is an obvious choice, one of Hamilton or Murphy will be drafted as well, perhaps both. A guy like Murphy may be exactly what NJ is looking for.

That's all fine for the average fan, but the Sens scouts have a list of top 6 and they surely prefer the guy at N1 to the guy at N6, and I am guessing they are not indifferent.
Can you imagine if the SEns didn't get Karlsson at 15 but got a guy like Colborne? Remember at that time most lists had Colborne ahead of Karlsson.

I just hope we trade up by using those 2nd rounders to get the guy we want. Quality > quantity, always. I don't care if you trade all those 2nd rounders. IF we can get a franchise player out of this draft it's a win.
I am just tired of setting my expectations back every week. It started with a division title win to a bubble team, then a lottery pick, top 4, top 5 and we end up with 6. Sorry if I'm Cussing frustrated.

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If The Sens do end up with Couturier it's a pretty good situation because like Strome and Huberdeau, he would be 100% protected by Spezza and could fill that 2nd line center role for sure.

Either way, Ottawa is getting a good player at number 6.

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Murray WAS talking about (gushing over) Landeskog in his interview tonight.

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NEELY wrote:Wow, people are just jumping off the cliff eh... there is literally no true number 1 pick in this draft. Strome has just as good of a chance as turning out as RNH. Couturier has just as good as a chance at turning out as Landeskog. There are safer picks than others but it's up in the air to say the least.

Also, if people think there won't be 2 or even 3 D men drafted before The Sens get a shot, they are mistaken. Larsson is an obvious choice, one of Hamilton or Murphy will be drafted as well, perhaps both. A guy like Murphy may be exactly what NJ is looking for.

Agreed. It's not ideal, but there are plenty of options. We very well may trade up. We may end up selecting a gem with the Nashville pick. Who knows? I don't know why everyone is, as Neely put it, "jumping off the cliff."

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Michallica wrote:
NEELY wrote:It will take Nashville's 1st to get into that 3rd spot I would think. That or Karlsson straight up for that pick.

Hmm 6th pick + Regin + Chicago 2nd? Or Brian Lee?

It doesn't help Florida at all.

It would be like 3rd overall for Karlsson
3rd overall for 6th and 21st
3rd overall for 6th, 35th, Boston's 2nd, Nashville's 3rd next year.

It needs to be something Tallon can build with, Regin and Lee are not players that a team can build with. It's basically garbage to them.

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Big Ev wrote:Murray WAS talking about (gushing over) Landeskog in his interview tonight.

Yup. If they need to give up Nashville's 1st and another 2nd and something else, you do it to get the player they truly want.

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They should just concentrate on moving up with the Nashville pick if they really want somebody from 7th to whatever that pick is.

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marakh wrote:
NEELY wrote:Wow, people are just jumping off the cliff eh... there is literally no true number 1 pick in this draft. Strome has just as good of a chance as turning out as RNH. Couturier has just as good as a chance at turning out as Landeskog. There are safer picks than others but it's up in the air to say the least.

Also, if people think there won't be 2 or even 3 D men drafted before The Sens get a shot, they are mistaken. Larsson is an obvious choice, one of Hamilton or Murphy will be drafted as well, perhaps both. A guy like Murphy may be exactly what NJ is looking for.

That's all fine for the average fan, but the Sens scouts have a list of top 6 and they surely prefer the guy at N1 to the guy at N6, and I am guessing they are not indifferent.
Can you imagine if the SEns didn't get Karlsson at 15 but got a guy like Colborne? Remember at that time most lists had Colborne ahead of Karlsson.

I just hope we trade up by using those 2nd rounders to get the guy we want. Quality > quantity, always. I don't care if you trade all those 2nd rounders. IF we can get a franchise player out of this draft it's a win.
I am just tired of setting my expectations back every week. It started with a division title win to a bubble team, then a lottery pick, top 4, top 5 and we end up with 6. Sorry if I'm Cussing frustrated.

That's exactly it. Fact of the matter is Murray added a player like Da Costa who is basically a 1st round pick like Nashville's. If you have to trade that 1st and 2 2nds to get Landeskog (the player Murray truly wants) you do it.

In all honesty though, it comes down to what Edmonton does. Do they go with RNH? If they do Colorado takes Larsson for sure. If they go with Larsson, I would bet The Avs snatch up Landeskog to play wing with Duchene for the next 10-15 years.

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NEELY wrote:
Big Ev wrote:Murray WAS talking about (gushing over) Landeskog in his interview tonight.

Yup. If they need to give up Nashville's 1st and another 2nd and something else, you do it to get the player they truly want.
In addition to the 6th pick?

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Trade up, whatever, get the guy you want. A game changer please.
It's just Cussing ridiculous that one loss, just one loss should have given us RNH/Landeskog + another top 20 pick.

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Big Ev wrote:They should just concentrate on moving up with the Nashville pick if they really want somebody from 7th to whatever that pick is.

If Landeskog is number 1 on their list (as in they would take him with the 1st overall) you move what ever you can to get that pick. If teams are lucky and in the very best years for the most part, 3, MAYBE 4 guys turn out. Ottawa has 12 picks... 3 of those turning out would be a successful draft. They might hit a homerun with a 2nd round pick, they won't hit 3. You can add depth with that early 3rd just as easily as you can with that late 2nd.

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spader wrote:
NEELY wrote:
Big Ev wrote:Murray WAS talking about (gushing over) Landeskog in his interview tonight.

Yup. If they need to give up Nashville's 1st and another 2nd and something else, you do it to get the player they truly want.
In addition to the 6th pick?

If that's what it takes, absolutely. I think flipping the 3rd for the 6th, Ottawa's 2nd, and a kid like Wiercoich would be a pretty good deal for both sides.

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NEELY wrote:
marakh wrote:
NEELY wrote:Wow, people are just jumping off the cliff eh... there is literally no true number 1 pick in this draft. Strome has just as good of a chance as turning out as RNH. Couturier has just as good as a chance at turning out as Landeskog. There are safer picks than others but it's up in the air to say the least.

Also, if people think there won't be 2 or even 3 D men drafted before The Sens get a shot, they are mistaken. Larsson is an obvious choice, one of Hamilton or Murphy will be drafted as well, perhaps both. A guy like Murphy may be exactly what NJ is looking for.

That's all fine for the average fan, but the Sens scouts have a list of top 6 and they surely prefer the guy at N1 to the guy at N6, and I am guessing they are not indifferent.
Can you imagine if the SEns didn't get Karlsson at 15 but got a guy like Colborne? Remember at that time most lists had Colborne ahead of Karlsson.

I just hope we trade up by using those 2nd rounders to get the guy we want. Quality > quantity, always. I don't care if you trade all those 2nd rounders. IF we can get a franchise player out of this draft it's a win.
I am just tired of setting my expectations back every week. It started with a division title win to a bubble team, then a lottery pick, top 4, top 5 and we end up with 6. Sorry if I'm Cussing frustrated.

That's exactly it. Fact of the matter is Murray added a player like Da Costa who is basically a 1st round pick like Nashville's. If you have to trade that 1st and 2 2nds to get Landeskog (the player Murray truly wants) you do it.

In all honesty though, it comes down to what Edmonton does. Do they go with RNH? If they do Colorado takes Larsson for sure. If they go with Larsson, I would bet The Avs snatch up Landeskog to play wing with Duchene for the next 10-15 years.

I just hope Strome, Huberdeau and Couturier tear the playoffs apart, because it is looking like we will get one of them. That way it will look like we got equal value at 4-5 or 6. Now though, I prefer Huberdeau adn Strome's offensive potential a lot more than Couturier so I don't like it.
THe past 3 years we have been looking for an offensive game changer. We deserve one.

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marakh wrote:Trade up, whatever, get the guy you want. A game changer please.
It's just Cussing ridiculous that one loss, just one loss should have given us RNH/Landeskog + another top 20 pick.

It is what it is, The Sens are going to get a solid prospect.

All the picks The Sens or any team has in the draft is worth a potential franchise guy, I think it's Landeskog.

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Couturier is the next Getzlaf. Book it.

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marakh wrote:
NEELY wrote:
marakh wrote:
NEELY wrote:Wow, people are just jumping off the cliff eh... there is literally no true number 1 pick in this draft. Strome has just as good of a chance as turning out as RNH. Couturier has just as good as a chance at turning out as Landeskog. There are safer picks than others but it's up in the air to say the least.

Also, if people think there won't be 2 or even 3 D men drafted before The Sens get a shot, they are mistaken. Larsson is an obvious choice, one of Hamilton or Murphy will be drafted as well, perhaps both. A guy like Murphy may be exactly what NJ is looking for.

That's all fine for the average fan, but the Sens scouts have a list of top 6 and they surely prefer the guy at N1 to the guy at N6, and I am guessing they are not indifferent.
Can you imagine if the SEns didn't get Karlsson at 15 but got a guy like Colborne? Remember at that time most lists had Colborne ahead of Karlsson.

I just hope we trade up by using those 2nd rounders to get the guy we want. Quality > quantity, always. I don't care if you trade all those 2nd rounders. IF we can get a franchise player out of this draft it's a win.
I am just tired of setting my expectations back every week. It started with a division title win to a bubble team, then a lottery pick, top 4, top 5 and we end up with 6. Sorry if I'm Cussing frustrated.

That's exactly it. Fact of the matter is Murray added a player like Da Costa who is basically a 1st round pick like Nashville's. If you have to trade that 1st and 2 2nds to get Landeskog (the player Murray truly wants) you do it.

In all honesty though, it comes down to what Edmonton does. Do they go with RNH? If they do Colorado takes Larsson for sure. If they go with Larsson, I would bet The Avs snatch up Landeskog to play wing with Duchene for the next 10-15 years.

I just hope Strome, Huberdeau and Couturier tear the playoffs apart, because it is looking like we will get one of them. That way it will look like we got equal value at 4-5 or 6. Now though, I prefer Huberdeau adn Strome's offensive potential a lot more than Couturier so I don't like it.
THe past 3 years we have been looking for an offensive game changer. We deserve one.

Everyone here would love that game changer. Murray has added a lot of assets going into this draft and something could be worked out if Florida is actually interested in moving down in the draft. They need a number 1 center in the worst way, they could get a potential one at number 6.

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NEELY wrote:
spader wrote:
NEELY wrote:
Big Ev wrote:Murray WAS talking about (gushing over) Landeskog in his interview tonight.

Yup. If they need to give up Nashville's 1st and another 2nd and something else, you do it to get the player they truly want.
In addition to the 6th pick?

If that's what it takes, absolutely. I think flipping the 3rd for the 6th, Ottawa's 2nd, and a kid like Wiercoich would be a pretty good deal for both sides.

6th+Nash FRP+Ott SRP= crazy IMO. On the plus side, FLA would have no choice but to accept. Of course, if they say no, we can always send them our 12 picks+Spezza+Karlsson.

EDIT: 2 firsts and a 2nd is the Kessel trade all over again. The only difference is that we're trading for an unknown entity. That would be absolutely brutal.



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