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GAME DAY: New Jersey Devils @ Ottawa Senators - 7:30pm ET - THU. Mar. 15, 2011

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tim1_2 wrote:It's hard to be mad at your team for winning. Who knew MacDaddy would steal a game?

Did he not steal the one in Tampa as well. Who knew?

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Cap'n Clutch wrote:
tim1_2 wrote:It's hard to be mad at your team for winning. Who knew MacDaddy would steal a game?

Did he not steal the one in Tampa as well. Who knew?

Yep. We need to get rid of this guy, pronto.

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tim1_2 wrote:
Cap'n Clutch wrote:
tim1_2 wrote:It's hard to be mad at your team for winning. Who knew MacDaddy would steal a game?

Did he not steal the one in Tampa as well. Who knew?

Yep. We need to get rid of this guy, pronto.
3rd last is just fine with me. With the way the lotto works the odds are high we'll stay in third.

Larsson and RNH get picked with the first two then we get Landeskog. Regardless of how it goes those three are highly regarded and the Sens will likely be happy with any one of those three. If we some how fall a bit in the Lotto there's still a guy like Strome who is climbing the rankings and looks like a nice guy to have.

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hemlock wrote:I'm getting close. Seriously, are we trying to tank or not? What exactly is this "plan" that Melnyk speaks of?

These meaningless wins are just that. I don't think we'll drop to 4th in the draft, but it's not out of the question.

Even worse, Cussing Nashville looks like they are on their way to a point at least, and Edmonton and Colorado are losing.

This is a watered down version of the late season Leafs surge we are all so fond of laughing at.

To be fair I don't think Melnyk et al. could have anticipated that late round picks Greening and Condra would have such a positive impact. I mean when you are tanking you get rid of the Vets and fill in with rookies and they did that. Anderson was super human and considering his season before his arrival that too couldn't have been expected. This team is relying on Brian Lee, Karlsson, and Hale on the back end and they're also relying on Butler, Greening, Condra, Shannon, and Neil pretty heavily and Alfie is out. What more could they do. They even have Lessard up. Should they have picked up a crappier goalie on waivers? Send Condra and Greening back down because they're too good right now? Find someone else that won't allow Spezza to be over a point a game? Maybe call up Benoit and bench Lee?

It's the goaltending. If we still had Elliott we wouldn't be winning these games. In fact, I would hazard a guess and say we wouldn't have won more than a game or two since the deadline if we hadn't traded for Anderson. We were tanking just fine. I understand the Anderson trade, but I also think it's the biggest reason why we will not be finishing any lower than 28th now. Sherman is looking like a genius at this point. Trade away a goaltender for an even crappier one.

Still, if Anderson re-signs, then I am fine with this, I just have my doubts whether he will or not, and if he doesn't this move could end up being a massive Diddle up on Murray's part.

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Cap'n Clutch wrote:
tim1_2 wrote:
Cap'n Clutch wrote:
tim1_2 wrote:It's hard to be mad at your team for winning. Who knew MacDaddy would steal a game?

Did he not steal the one in Tampa as well. Who knew?

Yep. We need to get rid of this guy, pronto.
3rd last is just fine with me. With the way the lotto works the odds are high we'll stay in third.

Larsson and RNH get picked with the first two then we get Landeskog. Regardless of how it goes those three are highly regarded and the Sens will likely be happy with any one of those three. If we some how fall a bit in the Lotto there's still a guy like Strome who is climbing the rankings and looks like a nice guy to have.

Doesn't that seem like settling though in Strome's case. Is that really worth winning a few meaningless games now? I'm not trying to sell Strome short here, but he's certainly not my first choice. I would easily take any of the other 3 guys you mentioned over him.

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Strome is going to be a very good NHL player to be sure... he's right up there with the other two, the gap isn't as big as some think. The guy has all the tools including size and a little grit to go along with it to make hismelf into a fantastic NHL player. Is offensive upside is def better than Landeskog or Couturier.

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hemlock wrote:
Cap'n Clutch wrote:
tim1_2 wrote:
Cap'n Clutch wrote:
tim1_2 wrote:It's hard to be mad at your team for winning. Who knew MacDaddy would steal a game?

Did he not steal the one in Tampa as well. Who knew?

Yep. We need to get rid of this guy, pronto.
3rd last is just fine with me. With the way the lotto works the odds are high we'll stay in third.

Larsson and RNH get picked with the first two then we get Landeskog. Regardless of how it goes those three are highly regarded and the Sens will likely be happy with any one of those three. If we some how fall a bit in the Lotto there's still a guy like Strome who is climbing the rankings and looks like a nice guy to have.

Doesn't that seem like settling though in Strome's case. Is that really worth winning a few meaningless games now? I'm not trying to sell Strome short here, but he's certainly not my first choice. I would easily take any of the other 3 guys you mentioned over him.

The point is I highly doubt we fall out of third because we're not trying to catch Colorado. The Isles are capable of wins so I don't see us catching them although it isn't out of the realm of possibility and we could still get jobbed in the lotto I suppose.

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The Islanders have been the 2nd best team in the league since the all-star break, The Sens are still The Sens and a top 3 pick (minus a 30% chance of falling back one spot) will be picking 3rd. Larsson is going in the top 2 and it looks like RNH will be as well... Landeskog is a Senator baring any bad fortune.

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You don't think the Avs would want Landeskog vs RNH?

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tim1_2 wrote:You don't think the Avs would want Landeskog vs RNH?

Tough to say but I would have to say no, although they are pretty strong up the middle. I said that Col may pick Landeskog myself but I think Col finishes dead last here and they pick Larsson, just my guess though.

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Colorado is the worst team, but I think they started this tanking too late and will not pass Edmonton. 5 points is a lot of ground to make up still, no matter how bad they are. Plus they play them twice, so Edmonton's gotta losr at least 1 of those I would assume.

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Big Ev wrote:Colorado is the worst team, but I think they started this tanking too late and will not pass Edmonton. 5 points is a lot of ground to make up still, no matter how bad they are. Plus they play them twice, so Edmonton's gotta losr at least 1 of those I would assume.

Yeah, I assumed Colorado would win more than 1 or 2 games the 2nd 1/2 of the season but to my surprise they have managed to avoid that... don't under estimate Colorado because I don't think there is a player on that team who gives a Dung.

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Colorado traded for Elliott. If that isn't tanking I don't know what is.

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Wick looked pretty good in his limited ice time, the short time he was on the ice with Spezza he was able to get free and get a couple decent scoring chances, seems to have the offensive instinct. If Regin has another off year that might be the guy that gets a shot to replace him if Sifverberg doesn't come over.

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NEELY wrote:Strome is going to be a very good NHL player to be sure... he's right up there with the other two, the gap isn't as big as some think. The guy has all the tools including size and a little grit to go along with it to make hismelf into a fantastic NHL player. Is offensive upside is def better than Landeskog or Couturier.

Not saying he's small but he's like 10 lbs heavier than RNH with the same height and RNH plays more physical. I would say Lando is the only one of the 3 that has a size advantage.

Diddle If we don't get RNH I'm really gonna be a disappointed fella even if I like Strome GAME DAY: New Jersey Devils @ Ottawa Senators - 7:30pm ET - THU. Mar. 15, 2011 - Page 4 395361

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marakh wrote:
NEELY wrote:Strome is going to be a very good NHL player to be sure... he's right up there with the other two, the gap isn't as big as some think. The guy has all the tools including size and a little grit to go along with it to make hismelf into a fantastic NHL player. Is offensive upside is def better than Landeskog or Couturier.

Not saying he's small but he's like 10 lbs heavier than RNH with the same height and RNH plays more physical. I would say Lando is the only one of the 3 that has a size advantage.

Diddle If we don't get RNH I'm really gonna be a disappointed fella even if I like Strome GAME DAY: New Jersey Devils @ Ottawa Senators - 7:30pm ET - THU. Mar. 15, 2011 - Page 4 395361

He's still 2 or 3 inchaes taller so that's a lot of room to put on some wieght. RNH probably does have the highest offensive potential of everyone, I don't think it's all that debatable but Strome is easily 2nd.

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OMG, RNH FTW

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marakh wrote:
NEELY wrote:Strome is going to be a very good NHL player to be sure... he's right up there with the other two, the gap isn't as big as some think. The guy has all the tools including size and a little grit to go along with it to make hismelf into a fantastic NHL player. Is offensive upside is def better than Landeskog or Couturier.

Not saying he's small but he's like 10 lbs heavier than RNH with the same height and RNH plays more physical. I would say Lando is the only one of the 3 that has a size advantage.

Diddle If we don't get RNH I'm really gonna be a disappointed fella even if I like Strome GAME DAY: New Jersey Devils @ Ottawa Senators - 7:30pm ET - THU. Mar. 15, 2011 - Page 4 395361

Better get used to it, 'cause it's starting to look like he'll go first, so unless we win the lottery...

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