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Oglethorpe wrote:If Murray stays as GM I pray that he replaces the pro scouting department and gets a capologist as A/GM.

Murray will be in Ottawa until the RIGHT GM found, the way it should be.

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rooneypoo wrote:

tim1_2 wrote:I’m all for McQuire, but I don’t want to rehash that debate. I said all along that Murray will stay with the organization in another role, and we’ll have a new GM by the draft. I’m so smart. Oh wait…it hasn’t happened yet.

A month or so ago, I would’ve thought it insane to have Murray back as GM, but for some reason, now I’m thinking it wouldn’t be such a bad thing.

It's funny, I'm thinking the opposite now -- that is, I thought he was gone for sure, but now I'm not so sure. Guy is a hard read, with a serious poker face. I'm just not sure an owner lets a GM do what he's doing right now if he doesn't trust him. Guess we'll find out in the next 4 months.

I'm of the same mindset and it wouldn't surprise me to see him get a one year extension. I'm entirely comfortable with that scenario. It will allow more time to find a willing and able replacement and we'll be that much further into the rebuilding process. When the new GM takes over he should have a decent cupboard of talent to work with.

NEELY wrote:
Murray will be in Ottawa until the RIGHT GM found, the way it should be.

GREAT TO BE BACK!

Yay!

NEELY wrote:

Oglethorpe wrote:If Murray stays as GM I pray that he replaces the pro scouting department and gets a capologist as A/GM.

Murray will be in Ottawa until the RIGHT GM found, the way it should be.

GREAT TO BE BACK!

WB..don't know you, but read the history and look forward to reading your posts...

By RIGHT GM found are you talking the right GM for Melynk or the right GM for an NHL franchise...I'm afraid with all these rumors of Dave Cameron being the next coach that we may get into a who Melnyk likes most situation versus who is right.

22_4_ever wrote:

NEELY wrote:

Oglethorpe wrote:If Murray stays as GM I pray that he replaces the pro scouting department and gets a capologist as A/GM.

Murray will be in Ottawa until the RIGHT GM found, the way it should be.

GREAT TO BE BACK!

WB..don't know you, but read the history and look forward to reading your posts...

By RIGHT GM found are you talking the right GM for Melynk or the right GM for an NHL franchise...I'm afraid with all these rumors of Dave Cameron being the next coach that we may get into a who Melnyk likes most situation versus who is right.

The right GM as in the guy who will give or keep the credibility of The Sens, who will attract UFA's when the time is right, who will be the right people in place from scouts to the people who sell the beer. The guy that knows what he wants and knows how to put it in place.

Dave Cameron is a hell of a coach though, that could be anyones pick and he could be the next big thing coming to The NHL. Muller is another guy I would look at as well.

SpezDispenser wrote:

NEELY wrote:
Murray will be in Ottawa until the RIGHT GM found, the way it should be.

GREAT TO BE BACK!

Yay!

Diddle ya.

NEELY wrote:
The right GM as in the guy who will give or keep the credibility of The Sens, who will attract UFA's when the time is right, who will be the right people in place from scouts to the people who sell the beer. The guy that knows what he wants and knows how to put it in place.

Dave Cameron is a hell of a coach though, that could be anyones pick and he could be the next big thing coming to The NHL. Muller is another guy I would look at as well.

Cameron? After his colossal failure at the WJC? Muller I can see, but Cameron, another junior coach trying to make the jump to the NHL? I think we should steer clear of that right now personally.

NEELY wrote:

Oglethorpe wrote:If Murray stays as GM I pray that he replaces the pro scouting department and gets a capologist as A/GM.

Murray will be in Ottawa until the RIGHT GM found, the way it should be.

GREAT TO BE BACK!

ah Neely, good to see you back, really missed you around here, your insight could never be replaced.

SensFan71 wrote:

NEELY wrote:

Oglethorpe wrote:If Murray stays as GM I pray that he replaces the pro scouting department and gets a capologist as A/GM.

Murray will be in Ottawa until the RIGHT GM found, the way it should be.

GREAT TO BE BACK!

ah Neely, good to see you back, really missed you around here, your insight could never be replaced.

You don't remember Neely too well do you? His Ego requires extra bandwidth just to get on this website. I don't think you need to stroke it at all.

SpezDispenser wrote:

NEELY wrote:
The right GM as in the guy who will give or keep the credibility of The Sens, who will attract UFA's when the time is right, who will be the right people in place from scouts to the people who sell the beer. The guy that knows what he wants and knows how to put it in place.

Dave Cameron is a hell of a coach though, that could be anyones pick and he could be the next big thing coming to The NHL. Muller is another guy I would look at as well.

Cameron? After his colossal failure at the WJC? Muller I can see, but Cameron, another junior coach trying to make the jump to the NHL? I think we should steer clear of that right now personally.

Like that was Cameron's fault. The only thing he could be blamed for is choosing awful goaltenders. 5 goals in a period is more the players shutting it down then the coach saying "you guys got this, hockey is only 2 periods".

Look at his Majors, they are easily the best team in Canada right now without any real super stars. He's a fantastic coach that uses a fantastic system. I'm not saying he is the right guy but I am saying he might be.

Cap'n Clutch wrote:

SensFan71 wrote:

NEELY wrote:

Oglethorpe wrote:If Murray stays as GM I pray that he replaces the pro scouting department and gets a capologist as A/GM.

Murray will be in Ottawa until the RIGHT GM found, the way it should be.

GREAT TO BE BACK!

ah Neely, good to see you back, really missed you around here, your insight could never be replaced.

You don't remember Neely too well do you? His Ego requires extra bandwidth just to get on this website. I don't think you need to stroke it at all.

Well at least I don't make up multiple accounts, fluff my own posts, or lie about who I am so people will listen to me or accept me

Cap'n Clutch wrote:

SensFan71 wrote:

NEELY wrote:

Oglethorpe wrote:If Murray stays as GM I pray that he replaces the pro scouting department and gets a capologist as A/GM.

Murray will be in Ottawa until the RIGHT GM found, the way it should be.

GREAT TO BE BACK!

ah Neely, good to see you back, really missed you around here, your insight could never be replaced.

You don't remember Neely too well do you? His Ego requires extra bandwidth just to get on this website. I don't think you need to stroke it at all.

well true dat, hopefully i don't cause the server to go down lol, but I have to give credit where credit is due

NEELY wrote:
Like that was Cameron's fault. The only thing he could be blamed for is choosing awful goaltenders. 5 goals in a period is more the players shutting it down then the coach saying "you guys got this, hockey is only 2 periods".

Look at his Majors, they are easily the best team in Canada right now without any real super stars. He's a fantastic coach that uses a fantastic system. I'm not saying he is the right guy but I am saying he might be.

Not sure what to say, when a team blows a lead like the Canadians did, it makes me think of coaching first. I remember he didn't use his timeout properly either, he didn't play the right players when things started to unravel. I dunno, makes me a little nervous frankly, we all thought Hartsburg was the guy, but he couldn't do anything - reminds me of him all over again.

With the fiasco's that has been our recent head coach's, I hope we bring in someone who's proven. We've tried the new coach in the league way and it hasn't worked out, time to move on.

SpezDispenser wrote:

NEELY wrote:
Like that was Cameron's fault. The only thing he could be blamed for is choosing awful goaltenders. 5 goals in a period is more the players shutting it down then the coach saying "you guys got this, hockey is only 2 periods".

Look at his Majors, they are easily the best team in Canada right now without any real super stars. He's a fantastic coach that uses a fantastic system. I'm not saying he is the right guy but I am saying he might be.

Not sure what to say, when a team blows a lead like the Canadians did, it makes me think of coaching first. I remember he didn't use his timeout properly either, he didn't play the right players when things started to unravel. I dunno, makes me a little nervous frankly, we all thought Hartsburg was the guy, but he couldn't do anything - reminds me of him all over again.

They were/are teenage first rounders who got way too cocky and thought the game was one. It was a lack of respect for their comp, not coaching.

SensFan71 wrote:

Cap'n Clutch wrote:

SensFan71 wrote:

NEELY wrote:

Oglethorpe wrote:If Murray stays as GM I pray that he replaces the pro scouting department and gets a capologist as A/GM.

Murray will be in Ottawa until the RIGHT GM found, the way it should be.

GREAT TO BE BACK!

ah Neely, good to see you back, really missed you around here, your insight could never be replaced.

You don't remember Neely too well do you? His Ego requires extra bandwidth just to get on this website. I don't think you need to stroke it at all.

well true dat, hopefully i don't cause the server to go down lol, but I have to give credit where credit is due

Nah, don't listen to him. He knows how it is.

Hobiesens wrote:With the fiasco's that has been our recent head coach's, I hope we bring in someone who's proven. We've tried the new coach in the league way and it hasn't worked out, time to move on.

All this shows me is that 1 - picking a coach seems to be a bit of a crap shoot
2 - There needs to be a right coach for the players mentality when selecting.
3 - The GM and coach have to be on the same page.
4 - The coach needs full autonomy, and a personality and strength to ensure that autonomy, to make coaching decisions without interference.

NEELY wrote:

22_4_ever wrote:

NEELY wrote:

Oglethorpe wrote:If Murray stays as GM I pray that he replaces the pro scouting department and gets a capologist as A/GM.

Murray will be in Ottawa until the RIGHT GM found, the way it should be.

GREAT TO BE BACK!

WB..don't know you, but read the history and look forward to reading your posts...

By RIGHT GM found are you talking the right GM for Melynk or the right GM for an NHL franchise...I'm afraid with all these rumors of Dave Cameron being the next coach that we may get into a who Melnyk likes most situation versus who is right.

The right GM as in the guy who will give or keep the credibility of The Sens, who will attract UFA's when the time is right, who will be the right people in place from scouts to the people who sell the beer. The guy that knows what he wants and knows how to put it in place.

Dave Cameron is a hell of a coach though, that could be anyones pick and he could be the next big thing coming to The NHL. Muller is another guy I would look at as well.

I don't know Dave Cameron (other than what I've seen on T.V.) I just want to avoid giving him the position because of his relationship with Gene...if he's qualified then I'm all for it.