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16Hello..and Thoughts - Page 2 Empty Re: Hello..and Thoughts Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:00 pm

tim1_2


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Welcome to the club.

Allow me to respond to your post by sharing my take on what’s currently going on with management. I believe Melnyk and Brian Murray are pretty tight, and Melnyk has lots of respect for Murray. I figured that this was likely Brian Murray’s last year as GM, and the team’s performance this year has guaranteed that fact. Melnyk does not want to disrespect Murray in his final year before retirement (or a retirement position within the Sens organization), so he will not fire him.

I am 99% sure that Melnyk and Murray agree that the only course of action right now is to trade the veterans they can by the deadline, and take prospects/picks back in return. Given this, there isn’t much point in replacing Murray now anyways, since the direction is clear.

They will hire a new GM in the off-season, whether it’s Tim Murray or not remains to be seen. I have a hunch it will be Tim Murray, which would make it next to impossible to fire Brian Murray part way through a season only to be replaced by a family member. Ouch.


On the coaching side of things, we all know Clouston will not be back next year (barring some kind of miraculous 30-game winning streak). If he were going to be fired, he would have been fired by now. I believe there is some truth to the rumours that Murray wanted to fire him, and Melnyk said that if Clouston went, Murray would return behind the bench. I think Murray wasn’t too keen on going behind the bench again, so agreed to let Clouston ride out the season. At this point, the damage is done anyway. I’m not too sure if the Clouston-era will leave a bad taste in the vets mouths…nothing the off-season and hiring of a new coach won’t cure.


As for trades, when a team is in the tank like Ottawa, the offers for players don’t tend to become reasonable until the deadline. You’re bang on in this respect…there is no reason for Ottawa to make a panic-trade now, so we might as well wait until all the offers are rolling in at the deadline.

17Hello..and Thoughts - Page 2 Empty Re: Hello..and Thoughts Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:04 pm

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tim1_2 wrote:

Welcome to the club.



They will hire a new GM in the off-season, whether it’s Tim Murray or not remains to be seen. I have a hunch it will be Tim Murray, which would make it next to impossible to fire Brian Murray part way through a season only to be replaced by a family member. Ouch.


Can you spell S-U-T-T-E-R ?

18Hello..and Thoughts - Page 2 Empty Re: Hello..and Thoughts Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:08 pm

rooneypoo


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Number Twenty Nine wrote:future captain of his curling club

Yes, and we should make Jason "the tin man" Spezza the captain of this team in his stead.

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19Hello..and Thoughts - Page 2 Empty Re: Hello..and Thoughts Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:30 pm

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Co-captains. Bam I'm a genius.

20Hello..and Thoughts - Page 2 Empty Re: Hello..and Thoughts Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:34 pm

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stempniaksen wrote:Co-captains. Bam I'm a genius.

How about no-captains. Isn't that the wave of the future?

21Hello..and Thoughts - Page 2 Empty Re: Hello..and Thoughts Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:36 pm

stempniaksen

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SeawaySensFan wrote:
stempniaksen wrote:Co-captains. Bam I'm a genius.

How about no-captains. Isn't that the wave of the future?

Or everyone can be captain, that way they all have something extra to play for. It's foolproof!

22Hello..and Thoughts - Page 2 Empty Re: Hello..and Thoughts Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:45 pm

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How about we wait until Alfie retires and make Phillips Captain. A 100% great idea.

23Hello..and Thoughts - Page 2 Empty Re: Hello..and Thoughts Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:46 pm

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Cap'n Clutch wrote:How about we wait until Alfie retires and make Phillips Captain. A 100% great idea.

That'll give him plenty of time to maybe get traded and come back?

24Hello..and Thoughts - Page 2 Empty Re: Hello..and Thoughts Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:48 pm

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Cap'n Clutch wrote:How about we wait until Alfie retires and make Phillips Captain. A 100% great idea.

safe to say that would be only two more seasons after this one. By then you've got a well-established Erik Karlsson, and rising/budding stars in Cowen/Rundblad/2011 1st rounder. And Jason Spezza....

that much is guaranteed, so the sens should really think through about who they want as captain. Wouldn't surprise me if one of the young guys steps into a leadership role....maybe even Spezz.

25Hello..and Thoughts - Page 2 Empty Re: Hello..and Thoughts Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:49 pm

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Michallica wrote:IMO, Murray will step down soon after the all-star break and basically hand the reigns over on an interim basis to Tim Murray. At the press conference, they will finally outline the plan for the remainder of the season (and I expect them to also announce that Clouston is there for the remainder of the year) which is to sell and look out for the future of this franchise.

Co-sign.

26Hello..and Thoughts - Page 2 Empty Re: Hello..and Thoughts Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:49 pm

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SeawaySensFan wrote:
Cap'n Clutch wrote:How about we wait until Alfie retires and make Phillips Captain. A 100% great idea.

That'll give him plenty of time to maybe get traded and come back?

If only we could ban you for saying such a thing.....till then I'm just going to minus you.....oh wait Facepalm

27Hello..and Thoughts - Page 2 Empty Re: Hello..and Thoughts Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:51 pm

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SeawaySensFan wrote:
Cap'n Clutch wrote:How about we wait until Alfie retires and make Phillips Captain. A 100% great idea.

That'll give him plenty of time to maybe get traded and come back?

I hope he comes back. It might make captaining duties slightly more challenging.

28Hello..and Thoughts - Page 2 Empty Re: Hello..and Thoughts Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:53 pm

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Michallica wrote:
SeawaySensFan wrote:
Cap'n Clutch wrote:How about we wait until Alfie retires and make Phillips Captain. A 100% great idea.

That'll give him plenty of time to maybe get traded and come back?

If only we could ban you for saying such a thing.....till then I'm just going to minus you.....oh wait Facepalm

I certainly don't want him traded but I have no control over that and the bottom line is if he does get traded I want him back.

+2 for me.

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29Hello..and Thoughts - Page 2 Empty Re: Hello..and Thoughts Thu Jan 20, 2011 3:08 pm

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Cap'n Clutch wrote:How about we wait until Alfie retires and make Phillips Captain. A 100% great idea.

How about someone name any other candidate more plausible than Phillips.

If Phillips is not made captain, it's because of PR / optics: i.e., you need a player putting up points to be your captain, which is the new direction in the NHL. Locker rooms & coaches no longer decide who the team captain is; instead, its management, the organization, and the PR machine. That's the only way Phillips doesn't end up captain. As for him being traded, I think it highly, highly unlikely.

Jason Spezza as the captain of this team would be an atrocity, a moral offence against the concept of 'team captain' itself. If you doubt that claim, I just can't have a serious conversation with you.

30Hello..and Thoughts - Page 2 Empty Re: Hello..and Thoughts Thu Jan 20, 2011 3:10 pm

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rooneypoo wrote:
Cap'n Clutch wrote:How about we wait until Alfie retires and make Phillips Captain. A 100% great idea.

How about someone name any other candidate more plausible than Phillips.

If Phillips is not made captain, it's because of PR / optics: i.e., you need a player putting up points to be your captain, which is the new direction in the NHL. Locker rooms & coaches no longer decide who the team captain is; instead, its management, the organization, and the PR machine. That's the only way Phillips doesn't end up captain. As for him being traded, I think it highly, highly unlikely.

Jason Spezza as the captain of this team would be an atrocity, a moral offence against the concept of 'team captain' itself. If you doubt that claim, I just can't have a serious conversation with you.

I'm going to disagree with you on that one Dr. Poo. I think that Spezza has come a long way this year. It's too bad he's hurt. I can't blame him for that however.

31Hello..and Thoughts - Page 2 Empty Re: Hello..and Thoughts Thu Jan 20, 2011 3:13 pm

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TheAvatar wrote:
rooneypoo wrote:
Cap'n Clutch wrote:How about we wait until Alfie retires and make Phillips Captain. A 100% great idea.

How about someone name any other candidate more plausible than Phillips.

If Phillips is not made captain, it's because of PR / optics: i.e., you need a player putting up points to be your captain, which is the new direction in the NHL. Locker rooms & coaches no longer decide who the team captain is; instead, its management, the organization, and the PR machine. That's the only way Phillips doesn't end up captain. As for him being traded, I think it highly, highly unlikely.

Jason Spezza as the captain of this team would be an atrocity, a moral offence against the concept of 'team captain' itself. If you doubt that claim, I just can't have a serious conversation with you.

I'm going to disagree with you on that one Dr. Poo. I think that Spezza has come a long way this year. It's too bad he's hurt. I can't blame him for that however.

Plus, we could always change our name to the Ottawa Tin Men.

32Hello..and Thoughts - Page 2 Empty Re: Hello..and Thoughts Thu Jan 20, 2011 3:18 pm

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rooneypoo wrote:
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rooneypoo wrote:
Cap'n Clutch wrote:How about we wait until Alfie retires and make Phillips Captain. A 100% great idea.

How about someone name any other candidate more plausible than Phillips.

If Phillips is not made captain, it's because of PR / optics: i.e., you need a player putting up points to be your captain, which is the new direction in the NHL. Locker rooms & coaches no longer decide who the team captain is; instead, its management, the organization, and the PR machine. That's the only way Phillips doesn't end up captain. As for him being traded, I think it highly, highly unlikely.

Jason Spezza as the captain of this team would be an atrocity, a moral offence against the concept of 'team captain' itself. If you doubt that claim, I just can't have a serious conversation with you.

I'm going to disagree with you on that one Dr. Poo. I think that Spezza has come a long way this year. It's too bad he's hurt. I can't blame him for that however.

Plus, we could always change our name to the Ottawa Tin Men.

OTM. I like that actually ... Wink

33Hello..and Thoughts - Page 2 Empty Re: Hello..and Thoughts Thu Jan 20, 2011 5:22 pm

wprager

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rooneypoo wrote:
How about someone name any other candidate more plausible than Phillips.

I agree with this.

rooneypoo wrote:If Phillips is not made captain, it's because of PR / optics: i.e., you need a player putting up points to be your captain, which is the new direction in the NHL. Locker rooms & coaches no longer decide who the team captain is; instead, its management, the organization, and the PR machine. That's the only way Phillips doesn't end up captain. As for him being traded, I think it highly, highly unlikely.

Jason Spezza as the captain of this team would be an atrocity, a moral offence against the concept of 'team captain' itself. If you doubt that claim, I just can't have a serious conversation with you.

But not with this. It would not be an atrocity or a moral offense against anything and, hyperbole aside, there are certainly leadership qualities in Spezza -- certainly more than in Kovalev, who was crowned Captain by the fans in Saku's absence.

But since this is not a serious conversation, Ahhhhh!


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