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2011 NHL Entry Draft Watch

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6612011 NHL Entry Draft Watch - Page 45 Empty Re: 2011 NHL Entry Draft Watch Fri May 27, 2011 12:03 am

LeCaptain


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If true this draft is getting worse everyday for me since April Facepalm

6622011 NHL Entry Draft Watch - Page 45 Empty Re: 2011 NHL Entry Draft Watch Fri May 27, 2011 12:39 am

stempniaksen


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If Landeskog makes it past 2 I can actually see him tumble all the way to #6. I wouldn't be as thrilled with it as some, but I know lots of people in Ottawa who would be happy.

6632011 NHL Entry Draft Watch - Page 45 Empty Re: 2011 NHL Entry Draft Watch Fri May 27, 2011 5:48 am

Flo The Action


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NNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! Facepalm

I had hopes that BM would trade up to the 4rth and hopefully Hubie would be available by then. SH!T!

6642011 NHL Entry Draft Watch - Page 45 Empty Re: 2011 NHL Entry Draft Watch Fri May 27, 2011 7:19 am

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Fret not, we'll get a good player at #6 regardless!!

6652011 NHL Entry Draft Watch - Page 45 Empty Re: 2011 NHL Entry Draft Watch Fri May 27, 2011 7:28 am

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tim1_2 wrote:Fret not, we'll get a good player at #6 regardless!!

I wonder if it would be easier to move up in small steps, rather than trying to swap a 6 for a top-three. For example, go to the Devils and remind them that they *need* a D-man, while we have no desire to take one. Swap #6 for #4 and throw in one of our 3rd rounders. Or maybe just offer one of our D prospects -- is Wiercioch too much to move from 6 to 4? It's a lot easier moving from 4 into the top 3.


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6662011 NHL Entry Draft Watch - Page 45 Empty Re: 2011 NHL Entry Draft Watch Fri May 27, 2011 8:24 am

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wprager wrote:
tim1_2 wrote:Fret not, we'll get a good player at #6 regardless!!

I wonder if it would be easier to move up in small steps, rather than trying to swap a 6 for a top-three. For example, go to the Devils and remind them that they *need* a D-man, while we have no desire to take one. Swap #6 for #4 and throw in one of our 3rd rounders. Or maybe just offer one of our D prospects -- is Wiercioch too much to move from 6 to 4? It's a lot easier moving from 4 into the top 3.

Not happening Smile

6672011 NHL Entry Draft Watch - Page 45 Empty Re: 2011 NHL Entry Draft Watch Fri May 27, 2011 8:33 am

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Flo The Action wrote:NNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! Facepalm

I had hopes that BM would trade up to the 4rth and hopefully Hubie would be available by then. SH!T!

Here's a tip: don't get your hopes up in a draft.

6682011 NHL Entry Draft Watch - Page 45 Empty Re: 2011 NHL Entry Draft Watch Fri May 27, 2011 8:44 am

wprager

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marakh wrote:
wprager wrote:
tim1_2 wrote:Fret not, we'll get a good player at #6 regardless!!

I wonder if it would be easier to move up in small steps, rather than trying to swap a 6 for a top-three. For example, go to the Devils and remind them that they *need* a D-man, while we have no desire to take one. Swap #6 for #4 and throw in one of our 3rd rounders. Or maybe just offer one of our D prospects -- is Wiercioch too much to move from 6 to 4? It's a lot easier moving from 4 into the top 3.

Not happening Smile

If the Devils were guaranteed to have the player they want at #4 or #6, why not?

Anyhow, the point I was making is that while it might be difficult to move from #6 up to #3, you could try to do it in two smaller steps. Ever hear of that guy who started with a red paper-clip and traded up to a house?


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6692011 NHL Entry Draft Watch - Page 45 Empty Re: 2011 NHL Entry Draft Watch Fri May 27, 2011 10:13 am

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wprager wrote:
marakh wrote:
wprager wrote:
tim1_2 wrote:Fret not, we'll get a good player at #6 regardless!!

I wonder if it would be easier to move up in small steps, rather than trying to swap a 6 for a top-three. For example, go to the Devils and remind them that they *need* a D-man, while we have no desire to take one. Swap #6 for #4 and throw in one of our 3rd rounders. Or maybe just offer one of our D prospects -- is Wiercioch too much to move from 6 to 4? It's a lot easier moving from 4 into the top 3.

Not happening Smile

If the Devils were guaranteed to have the player they want at #4 or #6, why not?

Anyhow, the point I was making is that while it might be difficult to move from #6 up to #3, you could try to do it in two smaller steps. Ever hear of that guy who started with a red paper-clip and traded up to a house?

It was a giant paper-clip wasn't it?

6702011 NHL Entry Draft Watch - Page 45 Empty Re: 2011 NHL Entry Draft Watch Fri May 27, 2011 10:19 am

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wprager wrote:
marakh wrote:
wprager wrote:
tim1_2 wrote:Fret not, we'll get a good player at #6 regardless!!

I wonder if it would be easier to move up in small steps, rather than trying to swap a 6 for a top-three. For example, go to the Devils and remind them that they *need* a D-man, while we have no desire to take one. Swap #6 for #4 and throw in one of our 3rd rounders. Or maybe just offer one of our D prospects -- is Wiercioch too much to move from 6 to 4? It's a lot easier moving from 4 into the top 3.

Not happening Smile

If the Devils were guaranteed to have the player they want at #4 or #6, why not?

Anyhow, the point I was making is that while it might be difficult to move from #6 up to #3, you could try to do it in two smaller steps. Ever hear of that guy who started with a red paper-clip and traded up to a house?

Do you really want to spend, say, a 3rd to jump to 4th and then probably a 2nd/3rd to jump into the top 3 somewhere? That really eats away at the depth we'd otherwise come away with at this draft.

6712011 NHL Entry Draft Watch - Page 45 Empty Re: 2011 NHL Entry Draft Watch Fri May 27, 2011 10:22 am

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hemlock wrote:
wprager wrote:
marakh wrote:
wprager wrote:
tim1_2 wrote:Fret not, we'll get a good player at #6 regardless!!

I wonder if it would be easier to move up in small steps, rather than trying to swap a 6 for a top-three. For example, go to the Devils and remind them that they *need* a D-man, while we have no desire to take one. Swap #6 for #4 and throw in one of our 3rd rounders. Or maybe just offer one of our D prospects -- is Wiercioch too much to move from 6 to 4? It's a lot easier moving from 4 into the top 3.

Not happening Smile

If the Devils were guaranteed to have the player they want at #4 or #6, why not?

Anyhow, the point I was making is that while it might be difficult to move from #6 up to #3, you could try to do it in two smaller steps. Ever hear of that guy who started with a red paper-clip and traded up to a house?

Do you really want to spend, say, a 3rd to jump to 4th and then probably a 2nd/3rd to jump into the top 3 somewhere? That really eats away at the depth we'd otherwise come away with at this draft.

3rd round picks aren't that big of a deal. Even a second would be bad, we have three of them.

6722011 NHL Entry Draft Watch - Page 45 Empty Re: 2011 NHL Entry Draft Watch Fri May 27, 2011 10:40 am

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The Sens have 12 picks in this draft. That's about 5 extra picks.

Murray will use them to get what he wants.

6732011 NHL Entry Draft Watch - Page 45 Empty Re: 2011 NHL Entry Draft Watch Fri May 27, 2011 10:51 am

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sandysensfan wrote:The Sens have 12 picks in this draft. That's about 5 extra picks.

Murray will use them to get what he wants.

If other GM's want to trade with him...

6742011 NHL Entry Draft Watch - Page 45 Empty Re: 2011 NHL Entry Draft Watch Fri May 27, 2011 12:34 pm

wprager

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hemlock wrote:
wprager wrote:
marakh wrote:
wprager wrote:
tim1_2 wrote:Fret not, we'll get a good player at #6 regardless!!

I wonder if it would be easier to move up in small steps, rather than trying to swap a 6 for a top-three. For example, go to the Devils and remind them that they *need* a D-man, while we have no desire to take one. Swap #6 for #4 and throw in one of our 3rd rounders. Or maybe just offer one of our D prospects -- is Wiercioch too much to move from 6 to 4? It's a lot easier moving from 4 into the top 3.

Not happening Smile

If the Devils were guaranteed to have the player they want at #4 or #6, why not?

Anyhow, the point I was making is that while it might be difficult to move from #6 up to #3, you could try to do it in two smaller steps. Ever hear of that guy who started with a red paper-clip and traded up to a house?

It was a giant paper-clip wasn't it?

Nope:
http://oneredpaperclip.blogspot.com/

You can see the girl on the left holding it in her hand:

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6752011 NHL Entry Draft Watch - Page 45 Empty Re: 2011 NHL Entry Draft Watch Fri May 27, 2011 12:39 pm

wprager

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hemlock wrote:
Do you really want to spend, say, a 3rd to jump to 4th and then probably a 2nd/3rd to jump into the top 3 somewhere? That really eats away at the depth we'd otherwise come away with at this draft.

We may very well have the player we want at #4, but if the you really want someone who would be guaranteed to be gone at #3 and all it takes is a 3rd rounder then, yeah, you just do it and don't even think about it.

Although if you are that certain the player will be gone at #3 you *most likely* have to make a deal with #2, and that would cost more.

By the way, we have a ton of depth down on the farm. All we need to do is re-sign some and promote some. Chances are you're not getting better than a 3rd liner from the middle rounds, and we have plenty that can fill that role.


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6762011 NHL Entry Draft Watch - Page 45 Empty Re: 2011 NHL Entry Draft Watch Fri May 27, 2011 12:42 pm

Ev

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Look at some of those trades in the paperclip story. That's Dung!

6772011 NHL Entry Draft Watch - Page 45 Empty Re: 2011 NHL Entry Draft Watch Fri May 27, 2011 4:19 pm

shabbs

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ISS Final Top 6:

1. N-Hopkins
2. Larsson
3. Huberdeau
4. Couturier
5. Hamilton
6. Landeskog

Dare to dream...

6782011 NHL Entry Draft Watch - Page 45 Empty Re: 2011 NHL Entry Draft Watch Fri May 27, 2011 4:24 pm

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shabbs wrote:ISS Final Top 6:

1. N-Hopkins
2. Larsson
3. Huberdeau
4. Couturier
5. Hamilton
6. Landeskog

Dare to dream...

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