2011 NHL Entry Draft Watch

rooneypoo wrote:

Big Ev wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:

Big Ev wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:

Big Ev wrote:We're finishing 3rd, don't worry.

I don't know how anyone can feel at all confident about that one right now. If anything, 4th looks most likely at the moment. I don't think we'll pass NYI, but getting below FLA will be a tall order.

As stated before, we're losing all 3 and they get 1 point.

Cool. Can you tell me the #s for the next 6/49, too? I could use a few extra million. Cheers.

Professor Poo wins the $50 million lottery and quits his job. "Diddle you, English majors", Poo states, "I'm so glad I won't have to mark your Dung papers on Mark Twain anymore". Poo tells the Sun he will buy a stake in the Ottawa Senators with his winnings. His first order of business? "Getting rid of those Cussing idiots who run the marketing department".

F'n A!

English majors, I like. It's the non-majors that tend to hurt my head. And, ironically, I've never had to mark a paper on Twain. But lots and lots of bad papers on Edgar Allan Poe.

Yeah some of my fellow business students are so Cussing stupid when it comes to writing. One guy didn't know that proper names should be capitalized. I'm serious I'm always the one who has to edit Dung in group work because everyone else is so dumb.

Sean Couturier named QMJHL's league MVP and Top Prospect award winner.

Dash wrote:Sean Couturier named QMJHL's league MVP and Top Prospect award winner.

Dash wrote:Sean Couturier named QMJHL's league MVP and Top Prospect award winner.

Couturier is the guy I want at this point. Something about Strome worries me. I know the Q isn't the strongest league, but there's a reason why this guy has been so highly ranked for this long, he's suffering from Fowler syndrome now. He'll end up being a steal.

SDH89 wrote:

Dash wrote:Sean Couturier named QMJHL's league MVP and Top Prospect award winner.

Couturier is the guy I want at this point. Something about Strome worries me. I know the Q isn't the strongest league, but there's a reason why this guy has been so highly ranked for this long, he's suffering from Fowler syndrome now. He'll end up being a steal.

Same here. I have this weird gut feeling about Strome too. Rather go with the safe pick in Couturier, but I do think that Florida will take him.

Big Ev wrote:

SDH89 wrote:

Dash wrote:Sean Couturier named QMJHL's league MVP and Top Prospect award winner.

Couturier is the guy I want at this point. Something about Strome worries me. I know the Q isn't the strongest league, but there's a reason why this guy has been so highly ranked for this long, he's suffering from Fowler syndrome now. He'll end up being a steal.

Same here. I have this weird gut feeling about Strome too. Rather go with the safe pick in Couturier, but I do think that Florida will take him.

That's why it's so important to have the Isles pass us, we could still grab Lando with the 4th pick hopefully. Man this draft is stressing me out . If it comes down to it, and we have the 5th pick, Huberdeau > Strome

SDH89 wrote:

Big Ev wrote:

SDH89 wrote:

Dash wrote:Sean Couturier named QMJHL's league MVP and Top Prospect award winner.

Couturier is the guy I want at this point. Something about Strome worries me. I know the Q isn't the strongest league, but there's a reason why this guy has been so highly ranked for this long, he's suffering from Fowler syndrome now. He'll end up being a steal.

Same here. I have this weird gut feeling about Strome too. Rather go with the safe pick in Couturier, but I do think that Florida will take him.

That's why it's so important to have the Isles pass us, we could still grab Lando with the 4th pick hopefully. Man this draft is stressing me out . If it comes down to it, and we have the 5th pick, Huberdeau > Strome

Yeah that's my opinion as well. But you never know, the Isles may just say "oh, we have Nino and Okposo already so let's grab a D like Hamilton" and then Landeskog goes to us at 5. I won't predict anything after the wacky draft last year lol.

Big Ev wrote:

SDH89 wrote:

Big Ev wrote:

SDH89 wrote:

Dash wrote:Sean Couturier named QMJHL's league MVP and Top Prospect award winner.

Couturier is the guy I want at this point. Something about Strome worries me. I know the Q isn't the strongest league, but there's a reason why this guy has been so highly ranked for this long, he's suffering from Fowler syndrome now. He'll end up being a steal.

Same here. I have this weird gut feeling about Strome too. Rather go with the safe pick in Couturier, but I do think that Florida will take him.

That's why it's so important to have the Isles pass us, we could still grab Lando with the 4th pick hopefully. Man this draft is stressing me out . If it comes down to it, and we have the 5th pick, Huberdeau > Strome

Yeah that's my opinion as well. But you never know, the Isles may just say "oh, we have Nino and Okposo already so let's grab a D like Hamilton" and then Landeskog goes to us at 5. I won't predict anything after the wacky draft last year lol.

Good point. Snow has also been known to love collect extra second rounders in the past, so maybe we will pique his interest, especially if he's more interested in a D-Man like you said. There's hope!

Huberneau will go before Couturier.

NEELY wrote:Huberneau will go before Couturier.

You know its Huberdeau right?

I think I've been told that before too

Also, what are people basing either of Couturier or HuberDeau being better or projecting to be better than Strome on? Both of those kids play in the worst of the 3 CHL leagues as lesser players always end up in The Q and Quebec has trouble developing players as it is.

I am not saying people are wrong here, I would like to know however what people are basing their opinion on other than a "bad feelings".

By all accounts, Strome is a player that compete's harder, doesn't shy away from the physical aspect of the game, has the best shot, and perhaps the most creativity.

The biggest question mark going into the draft is still Couturier, if anything he reminds me of Esposito a few years back. That guy was supposed to be the number 1 at the same age and kept falling and falling, he's no where near an NHL game at this poing (injuries did play a factor) and there is good reason he slipped. For every Fowler (where GM's were wrong) there are about 10 Esposito's where GM's were bang on.

Look at the history of the draft and you will find the teams with good scouting like PHilly, Detroit, Ottawa/Anahiem, NJ, Nashville, very rarely ever make a mistake with their first rounders. If Ottawa goes with Strome over those 2 it's with good reason.

I'm not saying Strome IS the better pick (I think he has the potential to be the best player in the draft), and I am giving my reason's behind it.

LOL he's not even comparable to Esposito. Not even in the slightest. That guy was all offense and nothing else, and then he was derailed by injuries. He went 20th overall, this is not Sean Couturier who will be drafted in the Top 5. Esposito regressed in each of his seasons in the Q. SC just won MVP in his (potentially) last Q season.

Couturier is NHL ready right now as we speak, I have no doubt that he wil will work his way onto an NHL roster next year.

The only reason Couturier has been "falling" is because people want to nitpick everything in his game and exaggerate his faults. Plus, they will look at his "underwhelming" role at the WJC when all he did was play the role given to him, being the youngest player on that team. He has done nothing but dominate his league every season, and was just named the MVP even when he has battled mono the entire year. Plus he has experience on the international stage. People like to Dung on guys who are deemed to be the early #1 pick, and I really have no idea why he is getting so much flack. Luckily his league just recognized him for what he is.

Strome, I am just not as much of a fan of him as I am Sean Couturier. I am not saying I had bad feeling about him, I am saying I have a gut feeling that he won't be better than SC or Huberdeau. I like people who dominate for a while, like SC has. Strome has had one great year and still didn't finish with more goals or a higher PPG than SC. He plays in a better league but he still plays on a quality team. SC has been carrying his team.

I don't know who is better between Strome and Huberdeau but I like Couturier over each of them. Couturier has it all. The shot, the size (which is a HUGE need for the Sens), and he can also hit as well and change the outcome of a game. Plus, if Dave Cameron is actually gonna be a coach, he has coached him at the WJC so that might help him out a bit.

PS Couturier will not be Fowlered.

Big Ev wrote:LOL he's not even comparable to Esposito. Not even in the slightest. That guy was all offense and nothing else, and then he was derailed by injuries. He went 20th overall, this is not Sean Couturier who will be drafted in the Top 5. Esposito regressed in each of his seasons in the Q. SC just won MVP in his (potentially) last Q season.

Couturier is NHL ready right now as we speak, I have no doubt that he wil will work his way onto an NHL roster next year.

The only reason Couturier has been "falling" is because people want to nitpick everything in his game and exaggerate his faults. Plus, they will look at his "underwhelming" role at the WJC when all he did was play the role given to him, being the youngest player on that team. He has done nothing but dominate his league every season, and was just named the MVP even when he has battled mono the entire year. Plus he has experience on the international stage. People like to Dung on guys who are deemed to be the early #1 pick, and I really have no idea why he is getting so much flack. Luckily his league just recognized him for what he is.

Strome, I am just not as much of a fan of him as I am Sean Couturier. I am not saying I had bad feeling about him, I am saying I have a gut feeling that he won't be better than SC or Huberdeau. I like people who dominate for a while, like SC has. Strome has had one great year and still didn't finish with more goals or a higher PPG than SC. He plays in a better league but he still plays on a quality team. SC has been carrying his team.

I don't know who is better between Strome and Huberdeau but I like Couturier over each of them. Couturier has it all. The shot, the size (which is a HUGE need for the Sens), and he can also hit as well and change the outcome of a game. Plus, if Dave Cameron is actually gonna be a coach, he has coached him at the WJC so that might help him out a bit.

PS Couturier will not be Fowlered.

Wasn't so much refering to you there in terms of the "bad feeling".

Also, I don't think Couturier has "fallen" as much as everyone else has risen. There are not a lot of players who jump right into the Jr teams and are imidiatly given the role Couturier was or are automatically the best player on their teams like Couturier was.

A lot of these guys like Strome, Landeskog, RNH, and HuberDeau, were all on trying to make a name for themselves this year and have improved game by game by game. Risers are highly looked apon because they continue to improve and devlop as players. Maybe Couturier is a victim of circumstance and he had no where to go but down but there is a reason why there are potentially 4 or 5 players that will get drafted before him. NHL scouts for the most part are bang on.

NEELY wrote:

I am not saying people are wrong here, I would like to know however what people are basing their opinion on other than a "bad feelings".

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My opinion comes from the prospects' game + the WOrld under 18. Yeah, not a big sample at all, but he found a way to dominate in those, so it's enough to me to say he's not benefiting from playing against poor defense.

Also, Strome is not competing more than Huberdeau. Of the top 6-7 in this draft, Huberdeau competes more than anybody. Yes, even more than Landeskog.
Like Craig Button said, he is the combination of Skill and will.

I honestly don't know a lot about Huberdeau other than the very, very limited showings I have seen. Based on what everyone has said, reports, and obviously personal opinion, he will be the first player drafted from The Q.

NEELY wrote:I honestly don't know a lot about Huberdeau other than the very, very limited showings I have seen. Based on what everyone has said, reports, and obviously personal opinion, he will be the first player drafted from The Q.

How can you say "I don't know a lot about him" then say "He will be the first player drafted from the Q based on my personal opinion"? seems like a contradiction lol

Couturier was also voted the top Q draft prospect for 2011 today by his peers and/or Q coaches/managers.

marakh wrote:

NEELY wrote:

I am not saying people are wrong here, I would like to know however what people are basing their opinion on other than a "bad feelings".

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My opinion comes from the prospects' game + the WOrld under 18. Yeah, not a big sample at all, but he found a way to dominate in those, so it's enough to me to say he's not benefiting from playing against poor defense.

Also, Strome is not competing more than Huberdeau. Of the top 6-7 in this draft, Huberdeau competes more than anybody. Yes, even more than Landeskog.
Like Craig Button said, he is the combination of Skill and will.

Wonder why he didn't get recognized over Couturier for the Top draft prospect, then.