GAME DAY: Ottawa Senators @ Philadelphia Flyers - 7:00pm ET - MON. Nov. 15, 2010

Big Ev wrote:He's been good at every level (well, only NCAA and AHL). but he's never been dominant. Obviously everyone shares different opinions oin each position of the team, but I would prefer my goalie to be elite. It just gives you more confidence knowing you don't have to worry about the guy between the pipes each game.

stempniaksen wrote:The season could be 200 games long and Price would be better

SpezDispenser wrote:

stempniaksen wrote:The season could be 200 games long and Price would be better

I wasn't arguing that, I was saying that there's plenty 'o time for Price to shart the ice - and he doesn't take to adversity very well. Plenty 'o time...

ddt wrote:

Big Ev wrote:He's been good at every level (well, only NCAA and AHL). but he's never been dominant. Obviously everyone shares different opinions oin each position of the team, but I would prefer my goalie to be elite. It just gives you more confidence knowing you don't have to worry about the guy between the pipes each game.

1.55 GAA, .938 SP
2.10 GAA, .923 SP

Those were his stats during his last two years in college; the other years aren't included only because he wasn't a starter, the stats for those were just as good.

Here are his stats from the 2006 Frozen Four (NCAA finals):

- 2 shutouts, including a 1-0 triple-OT win
- .973 save percentage
- 0.62 GAA, that's 3 goals allowed in 4 games (almost 5 whole games when you look at that triple-OT)

If that's not dominant, then I wonder what kind of definition you have for the word...

stempniaksen wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

stempniaksen wrote:The season could be 200 games long and Price would be better

I wasn't arguing that, I was saying that there's plenty 'o time for Price to shart the ice - and he doesn't take to adversity very well. Plenty 'o time...

I'm gonna take issue with that statement. He came back from adversity as far as last season and how he went from struggling (and being booed) in the preseason to becoming one of the most dominant goalies thus far (although quite early).

wprager wrote:

Big Ev wrote:

marakh wrote:Elliott is getting better, but he has a looong way to go before becoming a N1 goaltender.
Right now, he's not "going far in the playoffs" material, unless he plays in front of Detroit or Philly or a top 5 team in the league. He's just as good as the team in front of him, which is ok considering how in the past 2 years goaltending was a reason we lost games .
But let's not act like he's stealing games or anything. THose are guys like Price, Halak, Thomas, Backstrom etc. There are maybe 5-10 of them max in the league, and it's not like those teams have won the cup recently either.
Bottom line is, upgrade your defense and forward depth first, and as long as you make the playoffs with an ok goalie, you should be fine.

I remember I got BLASTED around here last season for saying I'd rather have Price than Elliott.

At the cap-hit difference I'd still rather have Elliott. The cap hit was also likely one of the reasons they chose Price over Halak -- Halak was coming of a great season, while Price was coming off a down season (for him). Trajectories were going in different directions. I'm actually surprised Price got as much as he did, because I thought the difference would be higher. I guess by that point in time he had them over a barrel. They would have done better to negotiate his contract before trading Halak, but it probably wasn't their choice.

wprager wrote:If you assume that Halak would have gotten us to the 2nd round last year, that's the (at least) 2 extra home playoff games to make up the difference in cap hit. It definitely would not have happened last year, but we'll see how they both do this year. Bottom line, Price would have to win one extra playoff round for us than Elliott, in order to justify the extra cap hit. Or, take that $2M at the deadline and acquire a $6M sniper. Maybe that's the way to go -- have a goalie decent enough to get you to the post-season and give you at least a fighting chance, then up your scoring with a genuine top-six rental.