GAME DAY: Ottawa Senators @ Philadelphia Flyers - 7:00pm ET - MON. Nov. 15, 2010

CockRoche wrote:

marakh wrote:Price is the best goalie this year IMO. End of 2nd period, 33 stops

I have swam against the current on that debate and said that Montreal chose the right goalie for the future.

Should be interesting watching their careers over the years.

Big Ev wrote:Well it seems that Murray and co. don't have a ton of confidence in Elliott to be the undisputed future #1 tender of this team, since they've rushed Lehner to the pros.
He's been good at every level (well, only NCAA and AHL). but he's never been dominant. Obviously everyone shares different opinions oin each position of the team, but I would prefer my goalie to be elite. It just gives you more confidence knowing you don't have to worry about the guy between the pipes each game.

You don't have to have a super-human goalie, it just doesn't hurt to have one . People in Ottawa want to have a great goalie because we've been let down by so many in the past...if Elliott just plays like the best goalie we've ever had (arguably Lalime, Emery, Tugnutt) then I don't think that's good enough.

I'm not writing him off, I just don't see him ever becoming amazing. To me he's a Chris Mason, Dan Ellis, or Dwayne Roloson (which actually isn't bad at all).

dennycrane wrote:

CockRoche wrote:

marakh wrote:Price is the best goalie this year IMO. End of 2nd period, 33 stops

I have swam against the current on that debate and said that Montreal chose the right goalie for the future.

Should be interesting watching their careers over the years.

Price's stats were considered bad last year but they were still better than Elliott and Leclaire. I think the big issue was no so much one goalie over the other but that Montreal received so little for Halak.

Big Ev wrote:LOL rooneypoo I have heard that term long before Dobber Hockey

rooneypoo wrote:

Big Ev wrote:LOL rooneypoo I have heard that term long before Dobber Hockey

The criticism goes deeper than that, friend. Your judgment is not your own, is the point I was making.

marakh wrote:Elliott is getting better, but he has a looong way to go before becoming a N1 goaltender.
Right now, he's not "going far in the playoffs" material, unless he plays in front of Detroit or Philly or a top 5 team in the league. He's just as good as the team in front of him, which is ok considering how in the past 2 years goaltending was a reason we lost games .
But let's not act like he's stealing games or anything. THose are guys like Price, Halak, Thomas, Backstrom etc. There are maybe 5-10 of them max in the league, and it's not like those teams have won the cup recently either.
Bottom line is, upgrade your defense and forward depth first, and as long as you make the playoffs with an ok goalie, you should be fine.

Big Ev wrote:

marakh wrote:Elliott is getting better, but he has a looong way to go before becoming a N1 goaltender.
Right now, he's not "going far in the playoffs" material, unless he plays in front of Detroit or Philly or a top 5 team in the league. He's just as good as the team in front of him, which is ok considering how in the past 2 years goaltending was a reason we lost games .
But let's not act like he's stealing games or anything. THose are guys like Price, Halak, Thomas, Backstrom etc. There are maybe 5-10 of them max in the league, and it's not like those teams have won the cup recently either.
Bottom line is, upgrade your defense and forward depth first, and as long as you make the playoffs with an ok goalie, you should be fine.

I remember I got BLASTED around here last season for saying I'd rather have Price than Elliott.

Big Ev wrote:

marakh wrote:Elliott is getting better, but he has a looong way to go before becoming a N1 goaltender.
Right now, he's not "going far in the playoffs" material, unless he plays in front of Detroit or Philly or a top 5 team in the league. He's just as good as the team in front of him, which is ok considering how in the past 2 years goaltending was a reason we lost games .
But let's not act like he's stealing games or anything. THose are guys like Price, Halak, Thomas, Backstrom etc. There are maybe 5-10 of them max in the league, and it's not like those teams have won the cup recently either.
Bottom line is, upgrade your defense and forward depth first, and as long as you make the playoffs with an ok goalie, you should be fine.

I remember I got BLASTED around here last season for saying I'd rather have Price than Elliott.

Big Ev wrote:and damn, I like how there's an Elliott thread yet the conversation is booming in this GDT as well

marakh wrote:Elliott is getting better, but he has a looong way to go before becoming a N1 goaltender.
Right now, he's not "going far in the playoffs" material, unless he plays in front of Detroit or Philly or a top 5 team in the league. He's just as good as the team in front of him, which is ok considering how in the past 2 years goaltending was a reason we lost games .
But let's not act like he's stealing games or anything. THose are guys like Price, Halak, Thomas, Backstrom etc. There are maybe 5-10 of them max in the league, and it's not like those teams have won the cup recently either.
Bottom line is, upgrade your defense and forward depth first, and as long as you make the playoffs with an ok goalie, you should be fine.

Big Ev wrote:
I remember I got BLASTED around here last season for saying I'd rather have Price than Elliott.

Big Ev wrote:Do you mean career or per season? Because not a lot of goalies finish their career with a .915-.920 SV%. Patrick Roy's is .910.

SpezDispenser wrote:

Big Ev wrote:
I remember I got BLASTED around here last season for saying I'd rather have Price than Elliott.

Oh Biggie, there's a long, long way to go this season.

Big Ev wrote:He's been good at every level (well, only NCAA and AHL). but he's never been dominant. Obviously everyone shares different opinions oin each position of the team, but I would prefer my goalie to be elite. It just gives you more confidence knowing you don't have to worry about the guy between the pipes each game.

stempniaksen wrote:The season could be 200 games long and Price would be better

SpezDispenser wrote:

stempniaksen wrote:The season could be 200 games long and Price would be better

I wasn't arguing that, I was saying that there's plenty 'o time for Price to shart the ice - and he doesn't take to adversity very well. Plenty 'o time...