PLAYOFF GAME DAY: Game 5: Ottawa Senators (1) @ Pittsburgh Penguins (3) - 7:00pm ET - Thu. Apr. 22nd, 2010

Cap'n Clutch wrote:

N4L wrote:She wouldnt be able to hold a fork in either hand by the end of the 1st.

As funny as that is, you should know as well as anyone, that the no look drop pass, in and of itself, is not the problem. It's when and where he does it and the fact that he is seemingly unaware of the opposition players around him.

Crosby has made several no look passes that have been quite successful and a few that weren't but the ones that don't work aren't in dangerous areas that could cost the team. I forget which game it was but he fired a no look pass from behind the net out front for a Penguins goal. He misses that and it could be headed the other way with him still behind the net.

You are bang on with that. Its not the turn overs, its when and where you turn it over. Ive said that in Spezza's defense all year.

I updated the poll, allowed for vote cancelling in case you want to change your vote, and allowed for multiple choices so don't feel you have to pick just one answer.

Cap'n Clutch wrote:This game I don't feel any anticipation, excitement or disappointment. Game 4 is when I got all that out of the way. Now I'll just sit back and try to enjoy what is most likely the last game of the season.

+1. Let's at least see some kind of an effort.

Tonight you will see one of two things. One, a team that has a strong core and that refuses to give up, or two, a team that needs to start from the ground up (which a lot of people believe).

Liam McGuire said best last night. Would you rather be The St Louis Blue and make the playoffs every year for 28 years and not sniff a cup or take your lumps and build a team that actually has the ability to compete for a cup one day. Mind you most of that was with 21 teams in the league.

Having a guy like Spezza pretty much garentees The Sens stay decent, not bad enough to get better and not even close to good enough to compete. You might make the playoff every other year on average and just get bounced in the first rounf, maybe even get lucky and win a round, but there is no shot this team will compete for a cup as long as Spezza is here because he cannot compete with the best, not even close. That's the issue in Ottawa right now. That choice will have to be made.

You may very well have to build with only Phillips and Alfi and even then, I dont know if they want to be here for a rebuild, I wouldnt blame them if they didnt. This team cant be like NYR, or Cal, or even Edm up until now, they need to go one way or the other.

On top of that, you have to sell something to the fans, either A) winning, or B) hope... right now they are not winning and are not good enough to win, and personally I dont think there is any reason to have any hope in the short term (next 5 years). A ton of good peices but those pieces still have to be developed and brought along the right way.

I fear we'll be the St. Louis Blues because it seems as though a re-build is not in the cards for the Ottawa Senators. You don't necessarily have to re-build to make it work though as Detroit has shown over the last couple decades.

Detroit was baaaaaaaad before they got good. They also had an incredible 89 draft where it set them up for pretty close to the next 20 years.

Fact is The Sens drafted Spezza thinking he would be that generational center that could carry a team... he isnt.

N4L wrote:Detroit was baaaaaaaad before they got good. They also had an incredible 89 draft where it set them up for pretty close to the next 20 years.

Fact is The Sens drafted Spezza thinking he would be that generational center that could carry a team... he isnt.

It's a shame Spezza wouldn't be enough to acquire a top 2 pick to get Seguin (If we were to move Spezza, my hate hasn't reach N4L heights)

My hate is more brought on by people always making excuses for him. It's like their kid who is a criminal... "nooo, he's a good kid, he would never do that".

Anyways, no, Spezza isnt close to good enough to get The Sens a top 5 pick, hell, he isnt good enough to get The Sens a top 10 pick. Best you can hope for is perhaps a mid rounder and a mid tier prospect for him.

N4L wrote:My hate is more brought on by people always making excuses for him. It's like their kid who is a criminal... "nooo, he's a good kid, he would never do that".

Anyways, no, Spezza isnt close to good enough to get The Sens a top 5 pick, hell, he isnt good enough to get The Sens a top 10 pick. Best you can hope for is perhaps a mid rounder and a mid tier prospect for him.

It's becoming comical again with you and Spezza.

N4L wrote:My hate is more brought on by people always making excuses for him. It's like their kid who is a criminal... "nooo, he's a good kid, he would never do that".

Anyways, no, Spezza isnt close to good enough to get The Sens a top 5 pick, hell, he isnt good enough to get The Sens a top 10 pick. Best you can hope for is perhaps a mid rounder and a mid tier prospect for him.

Then you don't bother. Better to upgrade at other positions in that case and goodness knows there are a lot of upgrades to be made.

N4L wrote:My hate is more brought on by people always making excuses for him. It's like their kid who is a criminal... "nooo, he's a good kid, he would never do that".

Anyways, no, Spezza isnt close to good enough to get The Sens a top 5 pick, hell, he isnt good enough to get The Sens a top 10 pick. Best you can hope for is perhaps a mid rounder and a mid tier prospect for him.

If we could get a shot at Niederieter(sc?), Connolly or Grandlund, I say take it. Between Fisher and Regin we can fill the void.

The playoff losses aren't soley Spezza's fault but his continual regression to his 'stupid days' is getting way to aggravating to bare.
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Anyways wooooo Game 5 go Leclaire -

All I know is I'm glad I hitched my Avatar wagon to the right guy because I'm fairly confident he'll be a Sen for life.

SeawaySensFan wrote:
Then you don't bother. Better to upgrade at other positions in that case and goodness knows there are a lot of upgrades to be made.

Obviously.

Who knows. Perhaps "history will be made".

I'm going out guns a blazing tonight - Jersey, flags, the whole shabang! Who's with me?!?!?

Can someone do up a youtube of Leclaire?

What if Leclaire doesn't let a single soft goal in tonight? History will be made.

I'm going to spam Enrique - Hero to all negative postsfrom here on out

SeawaySensFan wrote:

N4L wrote:My hate is more brought on by people always making excuses for him. It's like their kid who is a criminal... "nooo, he's a good kid, he would never do that".

Anyways, no, Spezza isnt close to good enough to get The Sens a top 5 pick, hell, he isnt good enough to get The Sens a top 10 pick. Best you can hope for is perhaps a mid rounder and a mid tier prospect for him.

Then you don't bother. Better to upgrade at other positions in that case and goodness knows there are a lot of upgrades to be made.

Yeah, I wouldn't trade Spezza for anything less than a top 5 pick...even that is questionable. I would want someone that could make a difference right away, otherwise it's just ludicrous to trade him.

We need to upgrade our goaltending and our D. That's what we should concentrate on and also getting a good RW.