Ottawa's goaltending - Must read!

cloverleaf wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

cloverleaf wrote:or you could taper you expectations down to a normal level and understand that Lehner is nothing more than a very good goalie prospect who needs a lot more seasoning. Why is that so hard to understand?
19 year old goalies in the pros do not fair well the majority of the time, same with 20 year olds and 21...
Just because the state of our goaltending is bottom 5 in the league, doesn't mean you can make Lehner progress like a forward can.
it really is that clear.

It's not that clear IMO. I would say, depending on the mental and physical makeup of the goalie, that 20 years old is fine and dandy for making the jump to the NHL. Lehner came to NA and went right to one of the worst teams in the OHL and has carried them. When he doesn't play, their record is horrible, when he does play, their record is 25-13. That's ridiculous, that means he's an impact player who has been well schooled in the techniques of the game.

I would bet cold hard $$ that he's in the AHL next year. How he'll do is another story, but I think he'll be there.

cool. and in the meantime we play with elliott and leclaire again? and the year after that?
when would it be time to get a true #1? Hopefully this offseason when there are some good UFA's available. nabokov, ellis, biron, turco, theodore are available off the top of my head. not saying all those would be who we should be looking at but, we need to do something to improve our tender situation because it is horrendous

Yeah, because those goaltenders are are better then Leclaire and Elliott. Try again. Go play fantasy hockey or make some NHL10 trades or what ever it is you enjoy doing.

cloverleaf wrote:
cool. and in the meantime we play with elliott and leclaire again? and the year after that?
when would it be time to get a true #1? Hopefully this offseason when there are some good UFA's available. nabokov, ellis, biron, turco, theodore are available off the top of my head. not saying all those would be who we should be looking at but, we need to do something to improve our tender situation because it is horrendous

God no, that's the worst thing you could do. Elliott has progressed at a very nice rate, by next year he'll be more confident, more prepared. His work ethic is excellent, his form is excellent. The last thing I would want to do is go and buy another goalie - especially some of the names you're talking about. Turco - no. Theodore - no way. Ellis - meh, why not just keep Elliott in there? Biron - no. Nabokov - you have 6.5 million to spend on a goaltender when Elliott has played well and you have Lehner coming?

No, no, no. We can acquire Biron to backup Elliott, but that's about it - and that depends on what we do with Leclaire.

N4L wrote:Why do you even bother with Notch... he says the same thing every time. Fact of the matter is Lehner is almost garenteed to be in The AHL next year.

All that article was fantasy hockey league losers trying to come up with somehting to talk about. Elliott wins games and Leclaire when healty is as tallented as any goaltender in the league. Lehner is a top 3 prospect in Ottawa and will be ready for AHL action next year. Thats the long and short of it.

It's just opinions, I love talking hockey, it doesn't hurt anyone to hear another POV - even though this one I can't really understand, the rest of the article was interesting enough. I don't know if I'd draft 2-3 goalies this year, maybe one though.

SpezDispenser wrote:

cloverleaf wrote:
cool. and in the meantime we play with elliott and leclaire again? and the year after that?
when would it be time to get a true #1? Hopefully this offseason when there are some good UFA's available. nabokov, ellis, biron, turco, theodore are available off the top of my head. not saying all those would be who we should be looking at but, we need to do something to improve our tender situation because it is horrendous

God no, that's the worst thing you could do. Elliott has progressed at a very nice rate, by next year he'll be more confident, more prepared. His work ethic is excellent, his form is excellent. The last thing I would want to do is go and buy another goalie - especially some of the names you're talking about. Turco - no. Theodore - no way. Ellis - meh, why not just keep Elliott in there? Biron - no. Nabokov - you have 6.5 million to spend on a goaltender when Elliott has played well and you have Lehner coming?

No, no, no. We can acquire Biron to backup Elliott, but that's about it - and that depends on what we do with Leclaire.

leclaire is as good as gone. and like i said, i was just throwing available names out there. something will be done cause it wont be Elliott and Brodeur. That is laughable. This article is spot on as far as analysis of the players is concerned.

cloverleaf wrote:

cool. and in the meantime we play with elliott and leclaire again? and the year after that?
when would it be time to get a true #1? Hopefully this offseason when there are some good UFA's available. nabokov, ellis, biron, turco, theodore are available off the top of my head. not saying all those would be who we should be looking at but, we need to do something to improve our tender situation because it is horrendous

I'd rather have Leclaire than this guy; thank you very much

SpezDispenser wrote:

N4L wrote:Why do you even bother with Notch... he says the same thing every time. Fact of the matter is Lehner is almost garenteed to be in The AHL next year.

All that article was fantasy hockey league losers trying to come up with somehting to talk about. Elliott wins games and Leclaire when healty is as tallented as any goaltender in the league. Lehner is a top 3 prospect in Ottawa and will be ready for AHL action next year. Thats the long and short of it.

It's just opinions, I love talking hockey, it doesn't hurt anyone to hear another POV - even though this one I can't really understand, the rest of the article was interesting enough. I don't know if I'd draft 2-3 goalies this year, maybe one though.

that's funny. sometimes i wonder what this means"
"This post was made by N4L who is currently on your ignore list. Display this post."
but then i realize he is blocked for a reason. the post you quoted being one of them. i thank my God that his posts are not quoted often.

cloverleaf wrote:
leclaire is as good as gone. and like i said, i was just throwing available names out there. something will be done cause it wont be Elliott and Brodeur. That is laughable. This article is spot on as far as analysis of the players is concerned.

You mean as a replacement for Leclaire as backup? Okay, then I could see Biron, but I would NOT be adverse to putting Brodeur in there as backup. Elliott's gonna see 65 starts anyway, Brodeur showed he's capable and it leaves money to make our team even better.

SpezDispenser wrote:

N4L wrote:Why do you even bother with Notch... he says the same thing every time. Fact of the matter is Lehner is almost garenteed to be in The AHL next year.

All that article was fantasy hockey league losers trying to come up with somehting to talk about. Elliott wins games and Leclaire when healty is as tallented as any goaltender in the league. Lehner is a top 3 prospect in Ottawa and will be ready for AHL action next year. Thats the long and short of it.

It's just opinions, I love talking hockey, it doesn't hurt anyone to hear another POV - even though this one I can't really understand, the rest of the article was interesting enough. I don't know if I'd draft 2-3 goalies this year, maybe one though.

Dumbest suggestion ever and should just send warning bells and should discredit this article right away. Yeah, draft 4 goaltenders in 2 years when you need a ton of forwards... good call. Better off signing a UFA goaltender out of college then that.

Ottawa has 2 goaltenders that could be legit starters and both are already pretty close. Leclaire will more then likely be here next year along with Elliott because of his contract for one and most people dont give up on players after 3/4s of a season. Like I said, it isnt fantasy hockey.

I wouldn't give up on Leclaire, but I wouldn't balk at trading him. 4 million bucks plus potentially A-Train's money coming off the books? Sounds like a number one D-man to me - or a top LWer.

Either or...sounds nice!

cloverleaf wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

N4L wrote:Why do you even bother with Notch... he says the same thing every time. Fact of the matter is Lehner is almost garenteed to be in The AHL next year.

All that article was fantasy hockey league losers trying to come up with somehting to talk about. Elliott wins games and Leclaire when healty is as tallented as any goaltender in the league. Lehner is a top 3 prospect in Ottawa and will be ready for AHL action next year. Thats the long and short of it.

It's just opinions, I love talking hockey, it doesn't hurt anyone to hear another POV - even though this one I can't really understand, the rest of the article was interesting enough. I don't know if I'd draft 2-3 goalies this year, maybe one though.

that's funny. sometimes i wonder what this means"
"This post was made by N4L who is currently on your ignore list. Display this post."
but then i realize he is blocked for a reason. the post you quoted being one of them. i thank my God that his posts are not quoted often.

Sucks getting called out by someone who actually knows something eh... I get it, it is ok. How many diff names have you had on this site now and how many times have you been kicked off, just curious.

SpezDispenser wrote:I wouldn't give up on Leclaire, but I wouldn't balk at trading him. 4 million bucks plus potentially A-Train's money coming off the books? Sounds like a number one D-man to me - or a top LWer.

Either or...sounds nice!

Yeah, then you resign Elliott with what the year after that. Having 4.6 mil on goaltending is a good situation.

TheAvatar wrote:

cloverleaf wrote:

cool. and in the meantime we play with elliott and leclaire again? and the year after that?
when would it be time to get a true #1? Hopefully this offseason when there are some good UFA's available. nabokov, ellis, biron, turco, theodore are available off the top of my head. not saying all those would be who we should be looking at but, we need to do something to improve our tender situation because it is horrendous

I'd rather have Leclaire than this guy; thank you very much

hmmm, it is close, but, i think i would rather Theodore myself. in him, you have the guy that will be there, healthy and the sens D can get used to playing in front of him and learn tendancies and how help each other.

with leclaire, no one knows because he is always injured and when he is available he doesn't practice hard or even the way he plays. tough to get used to that.

just my opinion.

Yeah, because in Washington the biggest problem isnt goaltending eh..., good call.

cloverleaf wrote:

TheAvatar wrote:

cloverleaf wrote:

cool. and in the meantime we play with elliott and leclaire again? and the year after that?
when would it be time to get a true #1? Hopefully this offseason when there are some good UFA's available. nabokov, ellis, biron, turco, theodore are available off the top of my head. not saying all those would be who we should be looking at but, we need to do something to improve our tender situation because it is horrendous

I'd rather have Leclaire than this guy; thank you very much

hmmm, it is close, but, i think i would rather Theodore myself. in him, you have the guy that will be there, healthy and the sens D can get used to playing in front of him and learn tendancies and how help each other.

with leclaire, no one knows because he is always injured and when he is available he doesn't practice hard or even the way he plays. tough to get used to that.

just my opinion.

I have to wholeheartedly disagree with you on that one.

N4L wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:I wouldn't give up on Leclaire, but I wouldn't balk at trading him. 4 million bucks plus potentially A-Train's money coming off the books? Sounds like a number one D-man to me - or a top LWer.

Either or...sounds nice!

Yeah, then you resign Elliott with what the year after that. Having 4.6 mil on goaltending is a good situation.

Might I remind you how much money's coming off the books the year after? Kovalev is a big one for one.

Why wouldnt you want to try and resign him, that is a huge hole left on your wings. Fact of the matter is LEclaire is a good goaltender and could be a number one if he stays healthy, if he can, you have Elliott who is close to being a number 1 and just finds ways to win, if he falters, you have a guy that can step right in and steal games for you.

Ottawa goaltending situation is fine. Chicago, Philly, Washinton, Detroit, they are in a lot of trouble.

TheAvatar wrote:

cloverleaf wrote:

TheAvatar wrote:

cloverleaf wrote:

cool. and in the meantime we play with elliott and leclaire again? and the year after that?
when would it be time to get a true #1? Hopefully this offseason when there are some good UFA's available. nabokov, ellis, biron, turco, theodore are available off the top of my head. not saying all those would be who we should be looking at but, we need to do something to improve our tender situation because it is horrendous

I'd rather have Leclaire than this guy; thank you very much

hmmm, it is close, but, i think i would rather Theodore myself. in him, you have the guy that will be there, healthy and the sens D can get used to playing in front of him and learn tendancies and how help each other.

with leclaire, no one knows because he is always injured and when he is available he doesn't practice hard or even the way he plays. tough to get used to that.

just my opinion.

I have to wholeheartedly disagree with you on that one.

lol. no problem. i love opinions. i have lots.

Opinions based on fantasy hockey, awesome.