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16Salary Cap concerns - all teams - Page 2 Empty Re: Salary Cap concerns - all teams Thu Jul 09, 2009 11:48 am

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Cap'n Clutch wrote:All members can make sticky notes I'm pretty sure so if you're willing to start putting them into the team threads I'm all for it. As for a dedicated forum for CBA and Cap issues I'll talk to the Co-founders but it sounds like it's something we could set up for sure.

Oh, yeah, for sure. That's Kool and the Gang. cool)

17Salary Cap concerns - all teams - Page 2 Empty Re: Salary Cap concerns - all teams Thu Jul 09, 2009 11:50 am

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Neely4Life wrote:I wouldnt deal for Setari now, rather have a 3rd or a 4th rounder to pick up a small-ish, tallented guy later in the draft next year to be honest.

The nice thing about the Kovalev signing is that now Murray literally cant take back more salary then he is trading. This forces GM's to make a better deal and worry about their cap problems first. Murray can clear up a little over a million dollars in salary fairly easily before the end of the season and still keep Heatley.

San Jose def has to make othe rmoves first... not sure how but I bet giving Blake that contract now doesnt seem like such a good idea even though signing Blake himself isnt that bad of a thing or deal.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Bingo only have 1 AHL-ready goalie right now in M. Brodeur? I think the organization still needs to add an AHL goalie, no?

I'm sure that Mike O'Keefe is there but an AHL backup should be easy to find.

Hmmm. The problem in dealing with SJ, then, strikes me as follows: what exactly do they have to offer in terms of prospects otherwise?

Would a deal of Clowe/Michalek + Couture + McGinn / 1st be enough? Getting a SJ first rounder is pretty much a guaranteed 20-30th pick, which, while valuable, is not exactly a hot commodity. Consider, again, that Pronger brought back Lupul, Sbisa, 2 firsts, and (I think) a third.

18Salary Cap concerns - all teams - Page 2 Empty Re: Salary Cap concerns - all teams Thu Jul 09, 2009 11:50 am

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rooneypoo wrote:
Neely4Life wrote:I wouldnt deal for Setari now, rather have a 3rd or a 4th rounder to pick up a small-ish, tallented guy later in the draft next year to be honest.

The nice thing about the Kovalev signing is that now Murray literally cant take back more salary then he is trading. This forces GM's to make a better deal and worry about their cap problems first. Murray can clear up a little over a million dollars in salary fairly easily before the end of the season and still keep Heatley.

San Jose def has to make othe rmoves first... not sure how but I bet giving Blake that contract now doesnt seem like such a good idea even though signing Blake himself isnt that bad of a thing or deal.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Bingo only have 1 AHL-ready goalie right now in M. Brodeur? I think the organization still needs to add an AHL goalie, no?

Glass

19Salary Cap concerns - all teams - Page 2 Empty Re: Salary Cap concerns - all teams Thu Jul 09, 2009 11:52 am

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Lehner could find his way up to Bingo soon as well. Probably not this year but soon.


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20Salary Cap concerns - all teams - Page 2 Empty Re: Salary Cap concerns - all teams Thu Jul 09, 2009 11:52 am

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Cap'n Clutch wrote:Isn't Glass still around Wink

I don't think we even gave him a qualified offer, tho' someone please correct me if they know better; and I think O'Keefe is still in junior.

Granted, I don't really follow the situation of minor-league teams.

21Salary Cap concerns - all teams - Page 2 Empty Re: Salary Cap concerns - all teams Thu Jul 09, 2009 11:54 am

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rooneypoo wrote:
Cap'n Clutch wrote:Isn't Glass still around Wink

I don't think we even gave him a qualified offer, tho' someone please correct me if they know better; and I think O'Keefe is still in junior.

Granted, I don't really follow the situation of minor-league teams.

O'Keefe was picked up from College and put on the Bingo roster when Elliott was called up. Where he stands now? I don't really know.

Edit: Before he was called up to Bingo he was playing in the ECHL I believe.


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22Salary Cap concerns - all teams - Page 2 Empty Re: Salary Cap concerns - all teams Thu Jul 09, 2009 11:56 am

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We didn't tender Glass an offer. He's gonzo.

At the DC, there was a guy named Volkswagon or something like that. He was good - good enough from what I saw to be in Bingo. I think they'll go with him or O'Keefe personally.

23Salary Cap concerns - all teams - Page 2 Empty Re: Salary Cap concerns - all teams Thu Jul 09, 2009 11:58 am

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Did we not qualify Glass? Oh well...

24Salary Cap concerns - all teams - Page 2 Empty Re: Salary Cap concerns - all teams Thu Jul 09, 2009 11:58 am

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http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=97863

This is the guy who was at the DC.

25Salary Cap concerns - all teams - Page 2 Empty Re: Salary Cap concerns - all teams Thu Jul 09, 2009 12:00 pm

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Yeah I think with Mike Brodeur, O'keefe and what's his name, they've got enough Goaltending not worry about Bingo.

It's nice to see them pick up Mike Brodeur for Bingo though. Plus the prospects coming in there the Bingo fans will have a solid team to cheer for.


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26Salary Cap concerns - all teams - Page 2 Empty Re: Salary Cap concerns - all teams Thu Jul 09, 2009 12:04 pm

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That is actually Chris Wideman's team they are playing right there.



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27Salary Cap concerns - all teams - Page 2 Empty Re: Salary Cap concerns - all teams Thu Jul 09, 2009 12:06 pm

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Cap'n Clutch wrote:Yeah I think with Mike Brodeur, O'keefe and what's his name, they've got enough Goaltending not worry about Bingo.

It's nice to see them pick up Mike Brodeur for Bingo though. Plus the prospects coming in there the Bingo fans will have a solid team to cheer for.

OK, then, well, the problem again becomes (assuming that we're dealing with SJ), what does SH have of interest to us that we could want in return for Heatley, and again (with the Kovalev signing) assuming that we want to avoid taking back all kinds of salary given the predicament we're facing next year with all our RFAs?

Would Clowe/Michalek + Couture + McGinn / 1st be a good starting point? Is that something like an equitable deal for each team?

28Salary Cap concerns - all teams - Page 2 Empty Re: Salary Cap concerns - all teams Thu Jul 09, 2009 12:08 pm

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Just read some things on him and he sounds like he is a pretty solid goaltender. Stole some games from way better teams and has solid numbers.

Not sure if The Sens signed him to an entry level deal but he doesnt look to be any worse then Glass or Gaurd were.

29Salary Cap concerns - all teams - Page 2 Empty Re: Salary Cap concerns - all teams Thu Jul 09, 2009 12:08 pm

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Nice find N4. Finally some depth in that position. With Volkening, O'Keefe, Mike Brodeur, Lehner, Elliott and Leclaire we're pretty deep in that area now.


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30Salary Cap concerns - all teams - Page 2 Empty Re: Salary Cap concerns - all teams Thu Jul 09, 2009 12:09 pm

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Also getting Deep on D with Cowen, Weircioch and Karlsson waiting in the wings.


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31Salary Cap concerns - all teams - Page 2 Empty Re: Salary Cap concerns - all teams Thu Jul 09, 2009 12:10 pm

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rooneypoo wrote:
Cap'n Clutch wrote:Yeah I think with Mike Brodeur, O'keefe and what's his name, they've got enough Goaltending not worry about Bingo.

It's nice to see them pick up Mike Brodeur for Bingo though. Plus the prospects coming in there the Bingo fans will have a solid team to cheer for.

OK, then, well, the problem again becomes (assuming that we're dealing with SJ), what does SH have of interest to us that we could want in return for Heatley, and again (with the Kovalev signing) assuming that we want to avoid taking back all kinds of salary given the predicament we're facing next year with all our RFAs?

Would Clowe/Michalek + Couture + McGinn / 1st be a good starting point? Is that something like an equitable deal for each team?

I think we would be taking Cheechoo back personally, but that's just me. Probably something like Cheechoo, Couture, McGinn, and their 1st rounder.

That would give The Sens tons of depth, cap room, 2 solid prospects straight from the 67's and another 1st rounder that we can turn into Campoli.

32Salary Cap concerns - all teams - Page 2 Empty Re: Salary Cap concerns - all teams Thu Jul 09, 2009 12:11 pm

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rooneypoo wrote:
Cap'n Clutch wrote:Yeah I think with Mike Brodeur, O'keefe and what's his name, they've got enough Goaltending not worry about Bingo.

It's nice to see them pick up Mike Brodeur for Bingo though. Plus the prospects coming in there the Bingo fans will have a solid team to cheer for.

OK, then, well, the problem again becomes (assuming that we're dealing with SJ), what does SH have of interest to us that we could want in return for Heatley, and again (with the Kovalev signing) assuming that we want to avoid taking back all kinds of salary given the predicament we're facing next year with all our RFAs?

Would Clowe/Michalek + Couture + McGinn / 1st be a good starting point? Is that something like an equitable deal for each team?

SJS were one of the "original" front-runners and at the time, I didn't see them having anything we need. Even worse, neither team has room to take on salary. I think it would be a money in, money out deal that wouldn't give us the value we're looking for.

33Salary Cap concerns - all teams - Page 2 Empty Re: Salary Cap concerns - all teams Thu Jul 09, 2009 12:14 pm

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SJ has Clouture which is something Ottawa desperatly needs, some offensive young forwards. 1st rounder is always something that can be useful, and filling out the forwards around Spezza is so important right now because Spezza is going to have to be the guy in Ottawa now, he has to.

As long as we can keep a prospect cupboard full of some young guys who can come in and produce on the 2nd and 3rd lines, we are ok. A guy like Petersson might eventually one day be a guy who plays along side Spezza.

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