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Dudley resigns from Blackhawks, joins Thrashers...

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shabbs

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Rick Dudley resigns from the Blackhawks and joins the Thrashers team....

Source: http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=282256

Just hours after formally announcing his resignation with the Chicago Blackhawks, Rick Dudley has been hired as assistant general manager of the Atlanta Thrashers.

''Rick has informed me that he has resigned from his position with the Blackhawks to pursue other opportunities,'' Blackhawks general manager Dale Tallon said in a statement. ''I would like to extend my gratitude to him for his work with our organization and certainly wish him well in the future.''

Dudley's career behind the bench began in 1982 when he was hired as head coach of the Buffalo Sabres. He remained in Buffalo for three seasons before being fired in 1992. He didn't find work in the NHL again until he was a mid-season replacement for the Florida Panthers in the 2003–04 season.

Dudley was the general manager of the Ottawa Senators in the 1998–99 season before moving into the front office of the Blackhawks' organization in 2004, hired as a consultant before becoming assistant general manager in 2006.

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interesting team to jump ship from, a winning team to the Thrashers, who have been smoldering for the last few years, maybe a sign of a turnaround to come for the Thrashers?

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He had a better job opportunity in Atlanta, so why not?

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The Guy With The Mustache wrote:He had a better job opportunity in Atlanta, so why not?

a lot of uncertainty there, If Kovalchuk ever leaves, and well, not certain if it will happen, but if it does, that team is toast.

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Do those dates make sense?

shabbs wrote:...

Dudley's career behind the bench began in 1982 when he was hired as head coach of the Buffalo Sabres. He remained in Buffalo for three seasons before being fired in 1992. He didn't find work in the NHL again until he was a mid-season replacement for the Florida Panthers in the 2003–04 season.

His behind-the-bench career began in 1982 with the Sabres, where he lasted 3 years before being fired in 1992

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Oh man. Laughing3 Waddell is pooping his pantaloons right now.

You're a dead man walking Waddell. Pack your Dung.

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SpezDispenser wrote:Oh man. Laughing3 Waddell is pooping his pantaloons right now.

You're a dead man walking Waddell. Pack your Dung.

and the Thrashers are a dead team playing, unless something changes quick. Ahhhhh!

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wprager wrote:Do those dates make sense?

shabbs wrote:...

Dudley's career behind the bench began in 1982 when he was hired as head coach of the Buffalo Sabres. He remained in Buffalo for three seasons before being fired in 1992. He didn't find work in the NHL again until he was a mid-season replacement for the Florida Panthers in the 2003–04 season.

His behind-the-bench career began in 1982 with the Sabres, where he lasted 3 years before being fired in 1992
Heh. Yeah, that seems wrong. His coaching career in Buffalo started in 89/90. He started coaching at the lower levels in '82.

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and the Thrashers are a dead team playing, unless something changes quick. Ahhhhh!

Things are fine. The problem is, they need to take a 4 year approach and the fanbase (ha ha) won't let them survive for 4 years.

Bogosian, Little...Enstrom....

Wow, they diddling suck. :****:

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oh yeah, they are one team worse than the leafs, oh yeah, I said it.

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SpezDispenser wrote:
SensFan71 wrote:

and the Thrashers are a dead team playing, unless something changes quick. Ahhhhh!

Things are fine. The problem is, they need to take a 4 year approach and the fanbase (ha ha) won't let them survive for 4 years.

Bogosian, Little...Enstrom....

Wow, they diddling suck. :****:

Evander Kane too, in all likelihood. Plus Lehtonen and Pavelec in nets.

And that Ilya kid.

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SpezDispenser wrote:Oh man. Laughing3 Waddell is pooping his pantaloons right now.

You're a dead man walking Waddell. Pack your Dung.

Why do you say that?

Dudley was brought in to help the franchise. He did well in Chicago and was offered a chance in Atlanta to move up into the Associate GM position.

Rick Dudley is a highly experienced hockey executive whose playing experience also extends to several years in the WHA, so there's not much about the hockey business Dudley doesn't know.

And before you crap on Don Waddell, remember for a moment that he has been dealing with a franchise that has been in a protracted legal battle over the ownership for several years.

He has been obliged to run the hockey operations on a shoestring budget for an amorphous ownership. Tough to build a winning hockey team under those conditions.

Dudley's hiring may have much to do with the fact that the league is trying to get the Thrashers' house in order, possibly so that the team can be sold. Maybe even so it can be moved.

You seem to forget that many NHL teams--including the Senators--have been through a variety of difficulties on and off the ice throughout their existence.

Since the First Expansion Era in 1967, the entire league has been going from one crisis to another.

There is one way that these crises could have been avoided, and that would have been to have only six teams, which is what the six owners wanted--and managed to accomplish--for several decades.

As the NHL has grown, the problems have become more complex. Being a General Manager of an NHL team is not a job many people are capable of doing.

And before you laugh at other teams' difficulties, remember the ones your own had.

The Senators went out of business in 1934. They almost went under again in 2003.

Did you like it when other fans laughed at the Sens?

So before you mock another club's problems, remember that those problems could easily be your team's as well.

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Meh, you went too deep. I just don't like Waddell, I think he's made a few really, really amateur moves. I think with the money they have invested in the payroll, they could definitely be better. I also think their scouting blows - and that falls to Waddell as well. You don't need to spend outrageous sums of money to win, you just needed to adapt to both the cap and the internal cap. If your internal cap is 45, then make sure you have the right guys in place - in the right areas. Didn't think he did that personally. Shrug

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SpezDispenser wrote:Meh, you went too deep. I just don't like Waddell, I think he's made a few really, really amateur moves. I think with the money they have invested in the payroll, they could definitely be better. I also think their scouting blows - and that falls to Waddell as well. You don't need to spend outrageous sums of money to win, you just needed to adapt to both the cap and the internal cap. If your internal cap is 45, then make sure you have the right guys in place - in the right areas. Didn't think he did that personally. Shrug

The problem you don't know anything about Waddell or his background.

From Wikipedia:

Don Waddell was the assistant GM of the Detroit Red Wings from 1997–98. He won a Stanley Cup championship with the team in the 1998 season. In June 1998, he was named the GM of the newly founded Atlanta Thrashers. Under Waddell, the Thrashers have a total record of 273-367-45-53, making the playoffs once. Waddell is best known for drafting Russian superstar Ilya Kovalchuk.

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Waddell took on a thankless--though we can assume well paid--job when he took on his duties as GM and Executive VP of the Atlanta franchise, a franchise that has stumbled from Day One.

He's never had the tools to make the franchise successful.

Your criticism is based on a superficial, and unfair perception. As you are one of the Founders of the GM Hockey Forum, members look to you as a model, and influential voice.

I agree the Thrashers have been a failure, and I also agree that Atlanta should not have gotten another expansion franchise in the first place.

But dump on Waddell? That's just wrong.



Last edited by davetherave on Thu Jun 18, 2009 10:30 pm; edited 1 time in total

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Yeah, that Coburn for Zhitnik trade was fantastic.

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