Game Day: Ottawa @ Boston March 12th, 2009 7:00pm EST

Dash wrote:Kassian, Holland, Peluso (St. Louis prospect).

Is this kid related to ex-Hawk/Sen/Devil/Blue/Flame Mike Peluso?

Dash wrote:Kassian, Holland, Peluso (St. Louis prospect).

Brayden Schenn.



Evander Kane's going to be a physical guy as well.

asq2 wrote:

Dash wrote:Kassian, Holland, Peluso (St. Louis prospect).

Brayden Schenn.



Evander Kane's going to be a physical guy as well.

it's funny how you mention Kane and well, he has been bashed on this board, and I will admit, myself included have said I would rather if Bryan Murray drafts someone else, would be egg on my face if Murray does pick him, and he turns out to dominate, and if that happens, I will gladly admit to my wrong assumption of Kane.

asq2 wrote:

Dash wrote:Kassian, Holland, Peluso (St. Louis prospect).

Brayden Schenn.

Evander Kane's going to be a physical guy as well.

I can hear Burke salivating already...

Dash wrote:Kassian, Holland, Peluso (St. Louis prospect).

I have read very good things about Zach Kassian (6'2", 212).

From http://www.hockeysfuture.com/articles/10856/ohl_top10_prospects_for_the2009_nhl_entry_draft/

8. Zach Kassian, RW, Peterborough Petes

There haven't been too many bright points in the Petes' season to date, but the rugged forward from LaSalle, ON has certainly been a shining light. He's got the size to be a stellar power forward in the future and he's shown the hands that can augment his efficacy in that role.

In 37 games, Kassian has scored 40 points, including 16 goals. He's also shown a willingness to mix it up with 87 PIMs -- although taking poor penalties has plagued him throughout the season.

On a weak Petes team, Kassian has displayed tremendous growth as he's almost doubled his season's point totals from last year. He's also cemented his reputation as one of the OHL's toughest players -- and has been a noted proponent of fighting in the league.

(24th overall in Central Scouting's ranking of North American skaters)

Plus, he has a very cool name. 8)

davetherave wrote:

Dash wrote:Kassian, Holland, Peluso (St. Louis prospect).

I have read very good things about Zach Kassian (6'2", 212).

From http://www.hockeysfuture.com/articles/10856/ohl_top10_prospects_for_the2009_nhl_entry_draft/

8. Zach Kassian, RW, Peterborough Petes

There haven't been too many bright points in the Petes' season to date, but the rugged forward from LaSalle, ON has certainly been a shining light. He's got the size to be a stellar power forward in the future and he's shown the hands that can augment his efficacy in that role.

In 37 games, Kassian has scored 40 points, including 16 goals. He's also shown a willingness to mix it up with 87 PIMs -- although taking poor penalties has plagued him throughout the season.

On a weak Petes team, Kassian has displayed tremendous growth as he's almost doubled his season's point totals from last year. He's also cemented his reputation as one of the OHL's toughest players -- and has been a noted proponent of fighting in the league.

(24th overall in Central Scouting's ranking of North American skaters)

Plus, he has a very cool name. 8)

wow, he definitely sounds like a solid player, imagine this guy lining up next to Fish, as a Sens team, we have a bit of depth at center, but well, wingers are lacking IMO, that should affect who we pick in the draft if I am Bryan Murray I believe.

this kid doesn't sound too bad...
How long of a stint in Bingo would he need? more than a year?

There's some Zack Kassian for ya. He's probably taken in the middle of the first round.

Honestly, though, I think power-forwards in that sort of sense are over-rated. Anaheim won with some physical guys, yes, but who on Detroit, Carolina, even Tampa filled the Lucic role?

In my eyes, what matters is that a player is strong on the puck. Paajarvi-Svensson probably won't average 200 hits a season but, a la Marian Hossa/Jaromir Jagr, he'll likely be d@mn near impossible to knock off the puck.

EDIT: Also, I've read that he may be like Kyle Beach in more ways than one. I don't know thats necessarily true, though, but it set off some warning signs.

There's some Zack Kassian for ya. He's probably taken in the middle of the first round.

Honestly, though, I think power-forwards in that sort of sense are over-rated. Anaheim won with some physical guys, yes, but who on Detroit, Carolina, even Tampa filled the Lucic role?

In my eyes, what matters is that a player is strong on the puck. Paajarvi-Svensson probably won't average 200 hits a season but, a la Marian Hossa/Jaromir Jagr, he'll likely be d@mn near impossible to knock off the puck.

EDIT: Also, I've read that he may be like Kyle Beach in more ways than one. I don't know thats necessarily true, though, but it set off some warning signs.[/quote]

well we don't necessarily need a bruiser is right, if neil for whatever reason doesn't sign, we have winchester and bass (once healthy), but a guy strong on the puck is essential, and if MPS is the guy, then well, am hoping BM is certainly looking at that. as for beach, I am hearing some of those "attitude" problems are not as bad as the media makes them out to be. I could be false on that though.

asq2 wrote:

There's some Zack Kassian for ya. He's probably taken in the middle of the first round.

Honestly, though, I think power-forwards in that sort of sense are over-rated. Anaheim won with some physical guys, yes, but who on Detroit, Carolina, even Tampa filled the Lucic role?

In my eyes, what matters is that a player is strong on the puck. Paajarvi-Svensson probably won't average 200 hits a season but, a la Marian Hossa/Jaromir Jagr, he'll likely be d@mn near impossible to knock off the puck.

EDIT: Also, I've read that he may be like Kyle Beach in more ways than one. I don't know thats necessarily true, though, but it set off some warning signs.

Power forwards don't have to be as pugilistically inclined as Lucic, but size, skill and aggressiveness are key.

Detroit has power forwards Tomas Holmstrom and Johan Franzen; but the team philosophy is diametrically opposed to fighting as a tactical weapon.

In their Championship years, Tampa had Freddy Modin, Dave Andreychuk and Vincent Lecavalier; and Carolina had Rod Brind'Amour, Erik Cole, and Andrew Ladd, all prototypical power forwards.

Andreychuk and Brind'Amour are probably the closest to Lucic in terms of pure toughness.

SensFan71 wrote:

shabbs wrote:Just caught the highlights... wow... Auld got beat high glove side all game long. Need to work on that.

at the point of his career, his time to work on it might be passing, if Auld isn't going to cut it, we could always do the Leclaire/Elliott tandem next year. as for the game last night, am glad about the way we lost, they could have given up as soon as it was 4-1, but I didn't see any quit in that team until Kessel put in the empty netter.

Despite claims to the contrary, I'd suspect that is what Murray has in mind. Leclaire will be perfect to push Elliott, and Auld still has value for a throw-in on a trade (although, as mentioned in prior posts, it is becoming more and more evident why he has not stuck with any one team.)

Very good point(s) DTR. I have seen the future of forwards in the coming years in this league, and they are exactly like the prototypes you mentioned. Cheap and rarin' to go!

davetherave wrote:

Cronie wrote:yeah, Auld can be great at times, but one thing is for sure, EVERYONE saw his weakspot last night...

As for Neil, I tend to see where you are coming from DTR, and unless Neil takes a hometown discount, perhaps the sun has set on his tenure with the Sens.

One thing for sure, I will always admire and respect the courtesy he showed Lucic last night, because for all intensive purposes, once Lucic was fighting 'blind', Neil could have easily put him down for a nap. Great showing of ethics and class Neil. Bravo!

Chris Neil is indeed a very classy guy...and he does, as he has said, "Bleed Sens colours". But IMHO the tilt between him and Lucic put a harsh spotlight on the reality of where Chris Neil is in the current NHL.

Milan Lucic is 20 years old, makes $575K a year, 6'4" 220 lbs, and is on pace for 15-26-42 with a plus 14. He is talked about as 'another Cam Neely' (for what that's worth).

Chris Neil is 29 years old, makes $1.2MM (and wants $2MM), 6'1' 209, on pace for 3-5-8 with a minus -18. Great team player whose best of his six seasons saw him pot 16 goals (he has scored more than ten only twice).

Milan Lucic is an example of the New Kids On The Block who are becoming--and may become--the core of the NHL. The NKOTBs are bigger, stronger, faster, just as tough, more skilled, more productive and less expensive.

Ottawa needs NKOTBs.

excellent points, but why did you have to bring up them...?
Perhaps the most irritating music (was it really music?) ever. Except maybe Celine Dion.

Acrobat wrote:

davetherave wrote: Milan Lucic is an example of the New Kids On The Block who are becoming--and may become--the core of the NHL. The NKOTBs are bigger, stronger, faster, just as tough, more skilled, more productive and less expensive.

Ottawa needs NKOTBs.

excellent points, but why did you have to bring up them...?
Perhaps the most irritating music (was it really music?) ever. Except maybe Celine Dion.

Celine Dion...isn't she one of the owners of the new Las Vegas NHL franchise? LOL

davetherave wrote:

Acrobat wrote:

davetherave wrote: Milan Lucic is an example of the New Kids On The Block who are becoming--and may become--the core of the NHL. The NKOTBs are bigger, stronger, faster, just as tough, more skilled, more productive and less expensive.

Ottawa needs NKOTBs.

excellent points, but why did you have to bring up them...?
Perhaps the most irritating music (was it really music?) ever. Except maybe Celine Dion.

Celine Dion...isn't she one of the owners of the new Las Vegas NHL franchise? LOL

grrrrrrr @ Celine Dion, my wife loves her "singing" and used to torture me with that

Ottawa has never had a legit power forward, the closest thing we have had/have is Mike Fisher. People might say Heatley, but he plays on the perimeter for the most part and has a lethal shot, same with Alfi who is more finess.

Colin Wilson, Lucic, Getzlaf, all those young, huge guys with skill is exactly what the Sens need and if they can draft someone of that nature the Sens will be a better team in the future because of it!

davetherave wrote:
Celine Dion...isn't she one of the owners of the new Las Vegas NHL franchise? LOL

It's not like she'd drop a thin dime to support a franchise in La Belle Province.

HAHA! Well said Acrobat.

These American/Canadian idol, conveyer belt over-hyped and overly produced CRAP artists need to be thrown on an island FAR, FAR AWAY! LOL