Pat Quinn as Sens' Coach?

Bouwmeester + Quinn = 0 Stanley Cups (and no NHL playoffs in how many years?).

Build from within - UFA's and old coaches cost too much.

Hayden wrote:Bouwmeester + Quinn = 0 Stanley Cups (and no NHL playoffs in how many years?).

Build from within - UFA's and old coaches cost too much.

Agreed...but Uncle Gene may be hopelessly infatuated with The Mighty Quinn...

To all the Spezzamaniacs on this site, you all should be begging for Pat Quinn to coach the Senators. Now there is a coach who can light the proverbial fire under Spezza's arse.

No offense, but Spezza has still shown the same inconsistencies, albeit has woken up a bit now that one of his buddies got the plane ticket outa here

beedub wrote:To all the Spezzamaniacs on this site, you all should be begging for Pat Quinn to coach the Senators. Now there is a coach who can light the proverbial fire under Spezza's arse.

No offense, but Spezza has still shown the same inconsistencies, albeit has woken up a bit now that one of his buddies got the plane ticket outa here

Mr Quinn certainly takes no kwap from nobody.

Imagine him and Cory running a practice. No room for slackers on that team.

I voted for the Pens, as my gut tells me to have Quinn 'educate' Crosby on how to play and behave like a man and not like an incessant pu*sy would be quite tempting if I'm Shero.

As for Clouston, I have to agree with DTR, having someone like Quinn as a mentor of sorts wouldn't be bad, but I think Clouston will stick around next year as HC.

davetherave wrote:Bryan Murray said he'd give Clouston a 'fair shot', but that doesn't mean he'll anoint him as Head Coach for next year.

Clouston himself has said he is in no hurry to skip the steps he feels necessary to build his coaching career. IF Quinn was hired, Clouston could benefit from the chance to be his Assistant...with the inside track to take over later.

That's also more than a 'fair shot'.

Remember what happens to guys who try to move into NHL head coaching jobs too quickly...one just got fired this week.

But also remember what happens to assistant coaches when they take over for a departed head coach. It never, ever works. As in 0% of the time.

another good point ddt.

I'm wondering how long the Granato experiment in Colorado will go on for?

To be honest, it would just be stupid on so many fronts to move in a new coach. First, the team has not responded to 2 previous coaches, they are finally starting to respond, why change it? Who knows what would happen with a different coach? Second what message would this send to other people in the organization?

Murray: 'I will give you a fair shot? Success criteria... turn this ship around...'
Clouston: 'Done... how is this for a turn around. Everyone is playing harder, having fun and we are winning games and winning back our disgruntled fans.'
Murray: 'Pretty good. *pat on the butt* But we are going to go with a more experienced guy'

THIS IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

Murray is nothing if not a man of integrity. As a teaching professional he would not leave Clouston with an expectation that he was getting a legitimate shot and then turn around to someone who has been successful, done all asked of him and say 'sorry we had a different plan all along'.

THIS IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

Exactly, and very well put MOI.

To my knowledge, and if anyone can enlighten or prove me wrong go right ahead, I'm NOT aware of any blatant sketchy, greasy or bordeline ethically questionable moves made by Murray in his tenure as a GM, either with the Sens or any other camp for that matter, and thus far, his reputation as an old fox and man of his word still appears to ring true, so I have to agree without a doubt that MOI's take is accurate. Clouston will be given a fair shot, as it were, and perhaps another season to prove his merit; after that, I suppose all bets are off.

Clouston will be given a fair shot but has he done enough to be handed the job next season? If his record behind the bench holds then absolutely but, I don't think he's coached enough games to properly assess this.

I think from now until the Sens last game this season should be a good enough idea to see how Clouston makes out. Don't forget: even though the Sens shot for a post-season birth is shot to hell, the teams they are playing against will not take them lightly as they will ALL need points, so Clouston will still need to be a disciplinarian and motivator.

The runway he was given is not within his control. At this point he has done a spectacular job. Anyone here who says they thought he would be this successful is full of poop... except for Murray.

He has instilled a work ethic that Paddock and Hartsburg couldn't
He makes smart in game adjustments
He has already pulled them out of a losing streak (although modest one) under his watch
He has established an agreesive forecheck
He has given defencemen a green light to pinch more and ensured that the forwards are properly coached to cover the points in these instances
He has managed the goaltending very well
The team morale is very high and they are working hard while they have no playoff hopes which is VERY hard in pro sports
His practices are up tempo and effective

These are no small feats given the state this team was in when he took over and given the ego's he is dealing with while coming in as a relative unknown to the established players on this team. He would really have to crap the bed to lose his job as coach of the Sens, IMO.

No way Murray replaces a young, up-tempo, smart hockey mind. Especially one who has found a balance between good offense and good defense. Impossible. This is Murray's Babwang IMO.*

*Although fairly premature to say that, Clouston's resume is a good one - and there's nothing to say that he won't become a good to great NHL coach.

What the crap is a Babwang?

I am not sure if I want one or if Murray needs to have it surgically removed?

Sounds nasty. I knew if I put Babc_ock it would come out Wang.

Since we're assessing Clouston lets also not forget the plummet that our PK has taken under his watch going from top ten to high teens doesn't look good on the resume. How about the Power Play? Not great either. It ain't all sunshine and roses with this coach. By the end of the season we'll have a pretty good idea of where we stand with him.

Cap'n Clutch wrote:Since we're assessing Clouston lets also not forget the plummet that our PK has taken under his watch going from top ten to high teens doesn't look good on the resume. How about the Power Play? Not great either. It ain't all sunshine and roses with this coach. By the end of the season we'll have a pretty good idea of where we stand with him.

PK can be partially explained by the lose of McAmmond and Vermette though. Those guys ate alot of PK minutes. PP loses Vermette as well. That's why I'd like to see Regin in there a little more, particularly on the PK.

Cap'n Clutch wrote:Since we're assessing Clouston lets also not forget the plummet that our PK has taken under his watch going from top ten to high teens doesn't look good on the resume. How about the Power Play? Not great either. It ain't all sunshine and roses with this coach. By the end of the season we'll have a pretty good idea of where we stand with him.

That's true actually. I'm surprised by the PP especially considering that Bongo's was one of the tops in the league. Perhaps he needs some good assistant coaches?